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That’s probably a sweatshirt-type of knit - loopback or terry cloth/French terry.

the machines for those types of knits go back in time as well, but the resulting materials are not as simple as standard t-shirt jerseys and require 2- to 3-yarn/thread systems.

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@Foxy2 - I'm sure you're right. The fabric feel is very different from both jersey and terry. It's very dry, dense, with little or no give. I should take a magnifier glass to mine to see...

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22 hours ago, JDelage said:

@Foxy2 - I'm sure you're right. The fabric feel is very different from both jersey and terry. It's very dry, dense, with little or no give. I should take a magnifier glass to mine to see...

That could be an indication for a warp knit (flatbed or cylinder) or something even more exotic and old like a Raschel machine...

edit:

SDA’s webpage says it’s done in Wakayama on those loopwheel machines, which means it should be the standard loopback sweater knit.

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I have a Rachel knit from Arpenteur. Thinking of dyeing it indigo...

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^ In his and the shops’ defence, it has been 7+ years…

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A pet peeve of mine. I just read a description of a short boxy t-shirt as a 'traditional fit'. Where does this idea come from??? In every pre 1960, & likely pre 1970 photograph or movie example I have come across, t-shirts are worn tight & tucked in. So apparently vintage t-shirts were narrow & long, not short & boxy. Here's a photo of Tyrone Power in 1947 wearing a t-shirt that looks about two sizes too small & it's still long enough to be tucked in (Watch the movie, Nightmare Alley. It's good). So bearing all that in mind what's up with brands charging $100 for too short t-shirts? Is it a case of saving on cost by using less fabric? Opinions welcome...

.tyrone t-shirt.jpg

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do loopwheeled tees stretch? I bought a trophy loopwheeled tee and it is quite undersized. Chest and shoulder measurements from the size chart in the site showed 54 & 50 cm but the shirt I got turned up to be 50 & 47cm only. Should I expect these to stretch? or would these shrink more after washing?

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In general - yes they stretch and yes they shrink as well in the washing machine. I only have Merz loopwheeled shirts though.
 

one other thing - 3 cm in shoulders isn’t as bad but 4 cm in the chest(which comes up as 8 cm when doubling)is practically a whole size down. 

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On 7/15/2020 at 7:59 PM, lee porter said:

Sunray are nice tees really soft and comfortable and sizings good too 

Just seen this thread and wanted to second this.

Blurb about them;

"There is absolutely nothing basic about these awesome Sunray Sportswear (formerly Revolver) plain t-shirts. Made from a heavyweight jersey (260gsm) they will stand the test of time and the low yarn count offers a sumptuous and luxurious softness that you just don't find elsewhere. The Haleiwa style uses recycled cotton from cotton combing and when this is formed into yarn it helps to give these tees their trademark fluffy feel and unique uneveness. And believe it or not, they become even softer with wear!

 

The style is produced on an antique loopwheel knitting machine in Japan (one of 2 left in the world!) and this allows for the tee to have no side seam, whilst the slow knitting process produces no stress on the yarn so it will almost never go out of shape. The fit is traditional and has been given a little extra in the length to its predecesor, to create a style that will never go out of fashion. There is also no external branding to name or date the piece. The angle of the sleeve and the neck ribbing offer a classic 50's look, back when a t-shirt was made well enough to stand alone and be the epitome of style."

 

I have six of their tees now and absolutely love them. They keep their shape when washing, feel amazing and the design of them is pretty much exactly what I want from a tee.

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Cons of the brand: Quite pricey at £60 a tee (absolutely worth it though), limited choice of colours and in an ideal world they would make a size 48 so I could get looser fit ones too.

They also make long sleeved versions and sweatshirts but I have yet to try these.

 

Unfortunately the web site seems to be quite out of date for US stockists, plenty of UK ones though.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Hopethisoneisnttaken said:

In general - yes they stretch and yes they shrink as well in the washing machine. I only have Merz loopwheeled shirts though.
 

one other thing - 3 cm in shoulders isn’t as bad but 4 cm in the chest(which comes up as 8 cm when doubling)is practically a whole size down. 

thanks! I got a replacement which were very close to the measurements on the size chart. This is my first loop wheeled garment and its surprising to see this kind of variation between items. The t shirt feels nice, but not any nicer than shirts I've tried from warehouse, mccoys or whitesville. Maybe this will feel better as it gets worn and washed.

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