Full Count Denim Thread

[conqueror]

so i've emailed bears twice in the past fortnight with no reply. anyone contacted them recently?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I usually contact them via IG

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

They’ve been slow to respond to email inquiry for me in the past - i think like a week plus. But never that slow if I ordered something!

 

[reallypeacedoff]

I emailed them yesterday, and they got back to me this morning.

[conqueror]

damn - well i'm not going to order from them if they won't even reply to me. the search continues!

[dennnnnnnnn]

3 stacks of high society 

 

1108 from 2020 for a bit over 2 years

1108xx from 22  for a year and a half

1108 wore occasionally since november

i never bought the same pair of jeans twice, looking for a new favorite. love the slim straight look with a good rise and soft Zimbabwe cotton, need a little more room on the thighs.

 

 

edit: very interesting to see the whiskers and knees are near identical on the two pair

Edited March 17 by dennnnnnnnn

[unionmade]

On 2/28/2024 at 3:48 PM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

BEARS is one of the few (if not only?!) shop that sells at Japanese domestic prices AND offers free shipping. Therefore usually the cheapest. Of course this doesn't help if they are sold out, of course.
Or when they inflate the price because they were asked to. But it went back down, that's right.

Hinoya guarantee vat and tax in their prices overseas. Easier to not receive unexpected bills. As mentioned by someone here, DHL etc is very unreliable for exact prices.

Anyone knows have many pairs they made of FC 0105 black/black edition? Sold out mostly everywhere..

[conqueror]

On 3/13/2024 at 8:25 PM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

I usually contact them via IG

thanks - gave this a shot and they replied the next day. anyway, it looks like there are two versions of the 0105 wide - now i'm confused, especially since the measurements seem literally identical. i was looking at getting the second link.

https://bears-tokyo.myshopify.com/products/fullcount-0105xx-loose-straight-heavy-oz-ルーズストレートヘビーオンス?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=2f2fba224&pr_rec_pid=4996331667515&pr_ref_pid=4996136763451&pr_seq=uniform&variant=34024020869179

https://bears-tokyo.myshopify.com/collections/full-count/products/fullcount-0105-loose-straight-ルーズストレート?variant=34023282245691

edit: i'm an idiot, one is heavier than the other.

Edited March 17 by conqueror

[CharlieMike]

Hello, I would like advice on a fullcount 0105 13.7 OZ One Wash. I wear W33 in Resolute, Warehouse, and W32 in Denime (by WH). What size do you recommend for the FC 0105? With several washes, does the fabric shrink? Thank you in advance for your help.

[Maynard Friedman]

I wear size 32 in most brands - Warehouse, LVC, Sugar Cane, SDA, Momotaro - but wear size 31 in Full Count as I’ve found they come up big in the waist. However, my experience is with the old FC with arcs and tabs, I’ve not owned or even tried on the new, revamped models, so this may no longer be relevant.

[indigoeagle]

I've got the "new" 0105, like most brands in 34.

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

Can’t speak to additional shrinkage but I found the measurements accurate. I tend to be a 29 or 30 and in FC I’m a 30. The great thing about this cut is you pretty much just need to size for the waist (for me the thighs can be the difference). You don’t need to worry about the rest because it will allow enough room. 

Edit - just want to note I'd be pretty surprised if additional shrinkage is significant. The patches on these prewashed jeans are pretty thoroughly toasted. 

Edited March 22 by AlientoyWorkmachine

[CharlieMike]

Thank you for your answers. Not easy, I have the impression that I could take a W31 for the 0105 while I wear W33 in WH. The fabric is quite "elastic".

[tooth]

I wear a 32 in WH and 31 in FC

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

Ha - my WH pair is 29. The 1003 must be different because I get the impression they run small to normal for everyone but for me the 29 of those is honestly the best fitting waist of any pants I have. It’s very slightly more snug feeling than my FC 30’s. I’m sure I could take the 0105 at 29 bc of the cut and the give of the denim, but, the proper size for the waist is definitely preferable. 

I bought my 1003xx (1946) at stock measurements for my pair that were accurate too, so it’s not like my pair was an anomaly from the production.

Edited March 22 by AlientoyWorkmachine

[Alec Leamas]

Does anyone have any experience to share on the new 11.5oz super smooth denim yet? 
 

I am keen to cease denying myself the comfort and dimensions of the 0105’s and I’m unsure on whether to go with the classic 13.7oz or this new lighter fabric (which might work out lovely for summer) or heaven forbid even the ecru version!

[Signet]

ive been wearing 0105  13.7 oz lately and fit is awesome. i mean initially it wasnt but after a couple of months  fit is what i was looking for 

 

[super-thermite]

Hi @Alec Leamas

I have both the 11.5 and 13.7, and the difference is substantial. I've had the 13.7 for a few months and never "got it" with them. I couldn't find the cuff or the drape was weird to me. I think it's like @Signet says. They take time to settle. This is not the case with the 11.5 super smooth.

 

The 11.5 arrived and showed me what the drape could become like on the stiffer 13.7s. The 11.5 started like they had been broken in. They feel like I'm wearing heavy linen. The hand is wild and so bumpy - but the bump is subtle enough that it is smooth. It feels coated with ultra fine, mildly crunchy polar fleece. It's really cool, light and probably as light as you can get. 

 

Because of the 11.5 I was able to figure out where to cuff the heavier pair, and now these 0105 are my favorite cut at the moment. Unbelievable comfort. The super smooth are almost too comfortable. I've handled a lot of fine denims and I think maybe they remind a little of Momotaro 14 Oz but the Momotaro do not stretch. Raleigh Denim, maybe something similar but the Full Count super smooth is not as tightly woven. It's not a terrible amount of stretch. It does happen in one wear, within the first two steps, and then it seems to plateau.

 

Couple of snaps. Both have been washed twice now. I wanted to get some room out of the super smooth. Even though I sized down to the 29 in the super smooth, they feel looser than the 13.7. I measured them and the 29, after a couple of hot washes measures 30" and the waist 30 in 13.7 measure 31". The super smooth denim gives quite a bit though. I probably could have gone with a 28.

 

The blue on the 11.5 is really deep and smokey. It's not gray smoke, but smoky navy blue. It appears to be deeply saturated. The 13.7 don't have the same depth to the dye, that's the only way I can explain it. From the surface, I can see far more white threads in the 13.7.

(Left side is 11.5) (Right side is 13.7)

(Left side is 11.5) (Right -top is 13.7)

My two cents, get both pair if you can. Start with the 11.5 since it seems newer and maybe not as available soon. Awesome summer weight.

Edited April 5 by super-thermite

[Alec Leamas]

12 hours ago, super-thermite said:

Hi @Alec Leamas

I have both the 11.5 and 13.7, and the difference is substantial. I've had the 13.7 for a few months and never "got it" with them. I couldn't find the cuff or the drape was weird to me. I think it's like @Signet says. They take time to settle. This is not the case with the 11.5 super smooth.

 

The 11.5 arrived and showed me what the drape could become like on the stiffer 13.7s. The 11.5 started like they had been broken in. They feel like I'm wearing heavy linen. The hand is wild and so bumpy - but the bump is subtle enough that it is smooth. It feels coated with ultra fine, mildly crunchy polar fleece. It's really cool, light and probably as light as you can get. 

 

Because of the 11.5 I was able to figure out where to cuff the heavier pair, and now these 0105 are my favorite cut at the moment. Unbelievable comfort. The super smooth are almost too comfortable. I've handled a lot of fine denims and I think maybe they remind a little of Momotaro 14 Oz but the Momotaro do not stretch. Raleigh Denim, maybe something similar but the Full Count super smooth is not as tightly woven. It's not a terrible amount of stretch. It does happen in one wear, within the first two steps, and then it seems to plateau.

 

Couple of snaps. Both have been washed twice now. I wanted to get some room out of the super smooth. Even though I sized down to the 29 in the super smooth, they feel looser than the 13.7. I measured them and the 29, after a couple of hot washes measures 30" and the waist 30 in 13.7 measure 31". The super smooth denim gives quite a bit though. I probably could have gone with a 28.

 

The blue on the 11.5 is really deep and smokey. It's not gray smoke, but smoky navy blue. It appears to be deeply saturated. The 13.7 don't have the same depth to the dye, that's the only way I can explain it. From the surface, I can see far more white threads in the 13.7.

(Left side is 11.5) (Right side is 13.7)

(Left side is 11.5) (Right -top is 13.7)

My two cents, get both pair if you can. Start with the 11.5 since it seems newer and maybe not as available soon. Awesome summer weight.

Awesome write-up thank you!! It might be 11.5 for warm summer days then! (not that we get a tonne of them here!!!)

[Jared_Lee]

0105's with about 18 months of wear.

 

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

Those look great. What has your washing schedule been like? I have a whole slew of 0105's just waiting to really get started on - I love the cut, but I also have some jeans I want to get through first. Problems. 

[Jared_Lee]

@AlientoyWorkmachine thank you. I couldn't really say what the wash schedule has been. I can't wear them at work (for the past 12 months anyway) and I have worn some Roy's, Warehouse, Mister Freedom and other chinos all throughout as well. I just wash them when I feel like it's time. I couldn't really even guess as to how many washes beyond saying more than 6 and less than 15. I only have access to a laundromat so I wash and tumble these on "Colors" and "Low" whatever that means on those machines. 

[81FXR]

Beautiful jeans there @Jared_Lee! 
 

I’m currently sat here in a pair about 6 months behind yours and washing fairly regularly. They’re just such a brilliant denim to wear, the softness and drape is equally as nice as the look of the fabric.

 

[blooming]

Those look amazing @Jared_Lee. Sitting here in my 1101s in the same denim a couple of months in, and hoping they turn out similarly.

[Sympathy-For-The-Denim]

@Jared_Lee epic pair! are these the 13 or 15oz version and did you wash em inside out?

[Jared_Lee]

@Sympathy-For-The-Denim, they are the standard 13.75 oz. I usually wash right side out after the first two or three washes. There's no deeply thought out formula to how I wash. I wash when I think they need it. I use the machines and detergents available to me at the moment (sometimes travelling). And honestly, it doesn't make any difference.

I have some pairs that end up with rivers. I have some that end up with deep creases. I have some that don't. It's antithetical to the garment to treat it any differently than underwear or a tee shirt when it comes to how you wash it. I just wear and wash and let what happens happen.

Edited May 31 by Jared_Lee

[shredwin_206]

@Jared_Lee showing how it’s done once again! Fuckin ace brother! 

[Jared_Lee]

Thanks, @shredwin_206!

[super-thermite]

I'm curious about the term "river"? I think I know what they are but could you please tell me what they are?

[Jared_Lee]

@super-thermite, I mean the vertical lines that don't follow a fold but have washed out lighter than the rest of the leg due to some kind of crinkling in the wash or detergent settling into wrinkles. It happened pretty heavily on my last Warehouse pair. I didn't really care much for that denim all around and particularly disliked the heavyweight pocket bag material.