Warehouse

[Thanks_M8]

Lot 800 c/l worn since 2021 and every summer and spring since then

[beautiful_FrEaK]

They look great! That waistband puckering is something else.

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

Careful with going smaller with jackets esp if you have broad shoulders/chest - this is the place you can’t really be flexible with sizing. 

Length shrinkage tends to stay shrunk. Sleeves tend to come in even a bit shorter once creases set it. 

In my experience WH denim - even one wash - tends to shrink up a bit over multiple washes, even cold ones. 

I’ve got a couple of lined jackets (not WH) - I haven’t sized differently because of the lining - and any lining shrinkage has been in line with the denim and not affected anything. 

[Alec Leamas]

This is solid advice thank you, some stuff to think on!

[Alec Leamas]

Picked up the lined DSB Type 1. 

Given it a warm wash and dry, looking a teensy bit larger than I would have liked but I got the lined as an autumn / winter / spring jacket and wanted to be able to fit a t shirt/shirt with a flannel/hoodie underneath so perhaps it’s perfect.
 

One thing I am totally sure of is I have instantly caught the denim jacket bug. Oh dear.

 

[Alec Leamas]

And with a hoodie, for good measure, this is fitting exactly as I’d hoped.

Will whack it through another wash and dry and then patiently wait for some colder weather, while of course looking for a summer unlined version that fits the same without the layers. 

[Geeman]

Eyeing the warehouse type 3 60s

https://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=172092763

Just deliberating sizing and shrinkage 

[Alec Leamas]

1 hour ago, Geeman said:

Eyeing the warehouse type 3 60s

https://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=172092763

Just deliberating sizing and shrinkage 

Not a fan of the cut myself, but, the denim is very nice! My 1101 Big E's in the same fabric are coming out lovely, very vibrant blue - if I get chance I'll share some photos in this glorious sunlight.

I will say though that I do very much like the early 60's type 2 paper patch model in the same fabric!

[Dr_Heech]

Some quick snaps of my Warehouse 1922 501XX jeans (1914 'belt loop model) and the 1927 506XX blouse after a wash. The jeans have had their second wash after about a year or so of actual wear. The blouse/jacket has had its first wash only after about 6 months of actual wear. Click on the image twice for clarity.

Not sure why the images turned out such a lighter blue, just taken them outside under cloud. Will ask the Mrs to take a fit pic when she's down later in the week so may bring out the depth of the denim more(?)

These were my first Warehouse items, really loving this unique denim and its characteristics but it does seem to fade faster than any denim l've previously owned. 

[edit] Don't understand why the first 2 images are on their side as l haven't changed anything about them. They are all standard photos taken one after the other. Fkin sufu😠

 

 

 

Edited August 4 by Dr_Heech

[MJF9]

Looking good Doc...

Just saved them and edited by clipping then... voila, right way up (I hope!)

[Dr_Heech]

 Thanks for that @MJF9 !

^Actually just realised that the 20's tux isn't my first experience of WH denim. I first had the 1922 model (details more like 1927 tho) in Duck Digger denim. Wore them on and off for a while, took all the waistband hardware off recently and tried to give them another go but that lower back rise isn't doing it for me no matter what.

So l have ditched them (and also shelved both pairs of Lee's but that's another story) which leaves the door wide open for me to use this wonderful 2 piece overall as my yard/garden/outdoor work garment. So hopefully an improving picture fade wise 😊

 

[Mr Black]

On 7/8/2024 at 10:59 PM, Mr Black said:

I've been eyeing up a pair of the '46 dsb S1001xx (1000xx), size 32.

When comparing against other models in the same tagged size (for example '47 1001xx, or a pair of the 1000's) the waist on the S1001's seems quite a bit bigger. A good inch or so across the width.

Does this model shrink any more than the others hence they're bigger on purpose, or is it a sizing anomaly?

So ignored the advice and went for these in a sz32.

I gave them their shrink today.  Was much more cavalier than usual and just bunged them straight into a 40 degree wash. Sometimes you just have to live on the edge.

As anticipated, the waist didn't shrink massively but that gives me a reason to maybe dabble in a new belt.

I did take before and after pics, but my phone's camera is pretty ropey so i won't bother sharing them.

Before/after measurements as follows:

Waist: 17.5"/16.5

Front rise: 13.25/12.5

Rear rise: 17.25/16.5

Thigh:12.75/12.25

Inseam: 35/33.5

Leg opening. 9/8.75

 

Will whip a couple of inches off the leg tomorrow and crack on with them.

Edited August 5 by Mr Black

[Dr_Heech]

Some better shots of the 1920s tux when worn, thanks to my son and his photographic skills. 

 

[shredwin_206]

Great tux! Need some better shots of the jacket in good lighting. The denim looks very interesting. 

[Dr_Heech]

3 hours ago, shredwin_206 said:

Great tux! Need some better shots of the jacket in good lighting. The denim looks very interesting. 

Thanks Shredders! Yes l wanted to take some flat-lays with some close ups of the denim and interesting details but it became too dark after my 'photoshoot'. Will definitely try for some when the opportunity presents itself. 

The Denim is indeed interesting. It's a mix of different dyed threads, synthetic indigo and natural indigo on the warp and weft. Apparently it's supposed to represent the 9oz denim which LS&Co were using up until the mid 1920s (probably 1927) before they switched to the 10oz weight which they used up until the war model.

 

[yung_flynn]

Here’s an update on my Duck Digger 1947 in Banner Denim after about a year of my own ownership. I’ve rode them pretty hard all summer. Unfortunately I had to get a little less precious about drying so now I’m forced to wear them Hayashi-style. On the positive side though, it’s giving nice marbling

[Alec Leamas]

Picked up a pair of 1001XX (1000XX) 1953's off Mercari via FromJapan (sidenote I have only recently dived in there and deary me there's truly a wealth of great stuff there!!!) 

I had been after these for a while, even pondering getting some for UK retail and they literally sold out as I was in the final stages of deciding / faffing - a blessing in disguise!

Bit of an odd one as the hem looked unwashed, yet there is some light wear elsewhere, they're in great condition anyway. Looks as though I might be the 3rd owner and the 2nd owner had them hemmed but then changed their mind or something like that.

Super pleased with these, typical DSB neppy softness. I also love the details on the 1953 pair - multicoloured stitching throughout and the visible fabric folded over on the pocket corners is a nice little touch I've not seen on any other WH pairs.

Don't think I've seen the DSB 1953's shared here so adding a few pictures. Couple outside in the sun shots and some indoor ones - the true colour of the fabric is somewhere between the outside and inside shots, those who have seen new ish DSB fabric will know the type, it's definitely the same version of the fabric as my 1000XX.

[Thanks_M8]

For anyone slim and interested great denim as seen above

C/L 1001 size 30

[Hendsch]

11 month old DD-1004XX (1922) fresh out of a wash and dry. These were a bit hard to get into, but after their 5th wash and dry, they finally fit perfectly. 

Gotta love the “dad knee” where my left knee is more faded, and if you look closely, my right thigh is a bit more faded above the knee from kneeling to talk with my son. 

[dum_surfer]

Anyone have a rough idea of how often the 1001xx in the banner denim are re-released? They seem to fit the bill for what I'm looking for to dive back into denim, but I can't find them literally anywhere!

A related question... is this 1001xx (1000xx) like this one  the same fit?

[Alec Leamas]

4 hours ago, dum_surfer said:

Anyone have a rough idea of how often the 1001xx in the banner denim are re-released? They seem to fit the bill for what I'm looking for to dive back into denim, but I can't find them literally anywhere!

A related question... is this 1001xx (1000xx) like this one  the same fit?

The 1001XX seems to come out every couple months or so, sometimes. The Warehouse production schedule is famously mysterious, the answer from shops when asked if they'll get a restock is "it arrives when it arrives".

Depending on where you are in the world and how willing you are to ship long distance or pay customs / other fees there are a few sizes of the 1001XX in banner denim here:

https://unionatease.official.ec/items/59779427

or here:

https://sonofastag.com/products/warehouse-1001xx-original-13-75oz-regular-straight-jean-raw?_pos=5&_fid=1a2157acb&_ss=c

The 1001XX (1000XX) versions are not the same fit - they're iterations of the style based on the time period in the model, like 1947 for that one you linked to. They're usually (I think always) in the Deadstock Blue denim as well, which is somewhat different to the banner denim, again impacting the fit and the style.

If you're after the banner denim specifically, my recommendation and personal favourite cut in that denim is the 25th anniversary 1001XX, which is still available here: https://thesignetstore.com/collections/warehouse/products/mens-trousers-25th-anniversary-1950-model

As you can see it's described as more of a 50's cut. It also has the back pocket arcs, which is a nice feature to have on banner denim, much like the DD-1001XX 1947.

 

[julian-wolf]

The current double-numbered models may all be DSB, but in general they’ve been doing double-numbered models since long before DSB came out—my black jeans from ca. 2010 are labeled 1001xx (1000)

[indigoeagle]

4 hours ago, julian-wolf said:

are labeled 1001xx (1000)

Has anyone understood the system behind that labeling?
I thought it might have been the denim and in brackets the cut. But then there are 1001xx(1000) 1947 and 1001xx(1000) 1953, I think.

Edited September 5 by indigoeagle

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

Before I came to the personal conclusion that I’d prefer Freewheelers in this realm (not to knock on WH, as I said it was just a personal thing), I tried to understand this. Then I gave up. 

I did preorder one WH thing this year because it was pretty unique - but it was a one off jacket and I just went by measurements and product description, which is what I’d do if I ever bought their jeans again because I’m not sure if WH even knows their labeling system at this point. 

[Maynard Friedman]

I’ve gone back and forth on this too. I initially thought that 1001XX and 1000XX were similar (if not the same) late 40s/early 50s cut with different denim weights, 1000XX being heavier. However, I now think that each cut may be slightly different and the double number suggests that it is, for example, a 1001XX cut made with heavier 1000XX denim, or vice versa.

But that’s just my take and I reserve the right to be completely wrong! 😆

[dum_surfer]

16 hours ago, Alec Leamas said:

The 1001XX seems to come out every couple months or so, sometimes. The Warehouse production schedule is famously mysterious, the answer from shops when asked if they'll get a restock is "it arrives when it arrives".

Depending on where you are in the world and how willing you are to ship long distance or pay customs / other fees there are a few sizes of the 1001XX in banner denim here:

https://unionatease.official.ec/items/59779427

or here:

https://sonofastag.com/products/warehouse-1001xx-original-13-75oz-regular-straight-jean-raw?_pos=5&_fid=1a2157acb&_ss=c

The 1001XX (1000XX) versions are not the same fit - they're iterations of the style based on the time period in the model, like 1947 for that one you linked to. They're usually (I think always) in the Deadstock Blue denim as well, which is somewhat different to the banner denim, again impacting the fit and the style.

If you're after the banner denim specifically, my recommendation and personal favourite cut in that denim is the 25th anniversary 1001XX, which is still available here: https://thesignetstore.com/collections/warehouse/products/mens-trousers-25th-anniversary-1950-model

As you can see it's described as more of a 50's cut. It also has the back pocket arcs, which is a nice feature to have on banner denim, much like the DD-1001XX 1947.

 

Extremely helpful, thank you dude! Had never heard of this union shop, might order from there. I think it might be Brexit related, but Son of a Stag's prices are brutal for us stateside....

Can anyone comment on how much the waist stretched back out on their banner denim? Looks like a Sz 31 Unwashed would shrink to about a 29, and I'm guessing I can stretch that out to about a 30 (most of my current best fitting pants are exactly 15 across). Am I thinking about that right?

Edited September 6 by dum_surfer

[Alec Leamas]

5 hours ago, dum_surfer said:

Extremely helpful, thank you dude! Had never heard of this union shop, might order from there. I think it might be Brexit related, but Son of a Stag's prices are brutal for us stateside....

Can anyone comment on how much the waist stretched back out on their banner denim? Looks like a Sz 31 Unwashed would shrink to about a 29, and I'm guessing I can stretch that out to about a 30 (most of my current best fitting pants are exactly 15 across). Am I thinking about that right?

No problem at all!

Regards measurements for Warehouse stuff - I always go by the measurements stated on their own site, and the shrinkage expected.

Here: https://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=132358411

Im afraid I can’t speak to how these shrink and stretch back, but there’s a few examples throughout the last few pages of this thread I believe.

[dum_surfer]

10 hours ago, Alec Leamas said:

No problem at all!

Regards measurements for Warehouse stuff - I always go by the measurements stated on their own site, and the shrinkage expected.

Here: https://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=132358411

Im afraid I can’t speak to how these shrink and stretch back, but there’s a few examples throughout the last few pages of this thread I believe.

Thanks! The guy a couple pages ago only made me more scared of how I should size haha. One place that has them in stock in Sweden says size up because they're small, SoaS says buy true to size raw because then they stretch. Slightly different measurements everywhere...painful for an overanalyzer like me 🥴

[dum_surfer]

also FWIW Standard & Strange has specified that these are banner denim and say that they are the same 1001xx fit, though I still have my doubts ...

https://standardandstrange.com/products/1001xx-1947-model-denim?_pos=4&_fid=b9b10f281&_ss=c

[Josh'N'Roll]

5 hours ago, dum_surfer said:

Thanks! The guy a couple pages ago only made me more scared of how I should size haha. One place that has them in stock in Sweden says size up because they're small, SoaS says buy true to size raw because then they stretch. Slightly different measurements everywhere...painful for an overanalyzer like me 🥴

I've run into this issue with Warehouse jeans, too - some retailers copy/paste the measurements from the Warehouse site, others list their own measurements but not their measuring method. I ask the shop to measure a specific pair, let me know how they measure, and to send pics of the measuring process if possible. Most shops are open to this kind of request. It's worth it to get actual measurements. Last time I asked a retailer to send me measurements for the 1001xx, the actual measurements were vastly different from what was listed online - so far off that it appeared the measurements on the website were for a one-wash pair, while the pair for sale was "raw, unwashed."

Shrinkage for the banner denim in my experience is 2"-2.5" in the waist, 3"-3.5" for the inseam. My 1001xx shrank at the waist from 37" to 34.75" and stretched with wear back to 36". The inseam went from 35" raw to 31.5" after 20+ washes.  

3 hours ago, dum_surfer said:

also FWIW Standard & Strange has specified that these are banner denim and say that they are the same 1001xx fit, though I still have my doubts ...

https://standardandstrange.com/products/1001xx-1947-model-denim?_pos=4&_fid=b9b10f281&_ss=c

That S&S listing is annoying. Those jeans look suspiciously like Dead Stock Blue 1947 that was released recently.