Dr_Heech

Kinda reminds me of Berger's Ways of seeing @bartlebyyphonics

Lucky you didn't get step 2 muddled up @Double 0 Soul otherwise your cereal would have cured in your intestine, whilst your 'mould' would be more just gone off milk, which would have been useless and not set as you had desired. I once rented an old run down cottage which was mostly 17th century (not one straight wall or floor in the place, which made it more interesting when negotiating your way to bed after a night on the tiles) - anyway, point being it had a stream running through, down in the cellar which was a deliberate feature, kerbed and everything. Near it was a well too, so must have been a common sight back in the day?

Some screenshots l took of a pair of 47's some time back from Marvins vintage store. They are a 'mistake' pair having a double tab which someone has ripped off. Nice size.

Apart from Adidas Kick and Puma trainers (not forgetting the ubiquitous black PE plimsole or Dunlop green flash) in the late 70's/early 80's, the only notable trainers l can remember were 2 pairs of Adidas, would've been 1998/99/early 2000 at the latest. Can't remember the model names but one pair were a dusky suede like green with 3 thick white stripes and the other, less interesting pair, were grey with no notable features. Also, as Maynard has pointed out, l had some Converse 'Skath' star (not 'Skate') in around 1998/9, but despite research they do not exist, although similar Skate star models do - but nothing exacting mine. Looked for them over the years but nothing. Some pics. Managed to find the box to the light green adidas; made in china so...? Here is also a pic of the grey ones (rocked with some vintage Lee's). The only pic of the Skath star's worn with 1970's Levis cords and velour pocket tee (that's my mum btw).

+1 for Adidas Kick

@Hannya1977 if l hadn't just forked out 500 quid for a new washing machine, l would've taken those 37's off your hands. Good luck with the sale.

Any more dad jokes and it's a kick up the backside for the both of you

^nice arce.

I will concede at this point. I wholeheartedly agree mate.

^Yeah just saw that too. The said that we have used the equivalent of 57 bags for life, for each household ! Which is odd, because l have used the same two bags for life for the last 11 years

They were repurposing old denim shorts into something new, ie a dress or whatever. I only caught the programme a few minutes before your 5 minutes of fame. Mediocre? Tbh most terrestrial tv is shite imo so l don't watch many programmes only films usually, but l got the feeling that it is the same inane programme formula of cheap and cheerful with some z-lister host. Just about every programme (cooking, homes, moving abroad, fixing stuff, cruising , antiques etc etc.. ) is just like it - unwatchable/irritating. Luckily we have various services to hop between , and in the case of terrestrial tv, the beloved mute button (and subs if necessary) is there so l dont have to listen to ads for Eastenders or The one show. Hey (lol) my mental health is important to me.

You should have brought in some 'old scraps' to be repurposed for the show

My Mrs watched it last night and text me the same thing! (I texted Mike and he said "thanks for telling me, that reminds me, they haven't paid me for the interview"). Came up to London today to see her and we watched the interview earlier. That Boss of he Road patch, mmm..

Pics or it didn't happen

Thanks sympathy. The seam is called a busted seam I believe (?) You're probably right about that unisex element - neither the 351N or the 606 state ladies cut. My conclusion came from trying them on and finding little room for the old meat and veg (hey it's not an exact science) so there you go.

Forget it..

Or he could do what us southern skinflints do, build your own out of old pallets (not just to save money and resources but also cos it's better quality) and will give you something to 'get into' .

Good to hear. We all move in and out of circles throughout our lives, but for me the core interests keep returning (l wont go into them) and on the forum it's the people, and their opinions/banter which keep it going (hey look at db now). My advice: Don't walk towards the light just yet.

Wtf My eyes!!

@Double 0 Soul Think all denimheads go through that train of thought now and again, at least us long term-er's. The amount of times l've said, "what's the point" to myself (insert any reason here) and then the next minute diving into yet another (perhaps) pointless denim rabbit hole (usually archival) to what end.(?) After my split from my ex-wife a good friend, who was watching me sobbing my heart out for the umpteenth time, said to me "Life is just a series of peaks and troughs mate", one minute your soaring up, out on top enjoying life, next minute you're slipping down to the bottom, consumed by despair". It may be a little bi-polar but hopefully you'll come back to us ...

^Recently learned that these are called Levis 606 'Superslims', a ladies cut from c.1967-73. They were a replacement for the jacron- patched ladies super slim model 341N fron c.1958-66. With it's batwing Levis design on the pocket flasher, this NOS pair is from c.1973.

Had these jeans since the early 1990's, they belong to the gf, Mrs_Heech. Back then l was a thriftermaniac when it came to old Levis, so a brief encounter with a second hand vintage clothing shop in Oxford (it was a college art galleries trip from Cheltenham) found me these. They were marked at 20 quid. I offered 15 and the deal was done. Obviously they weren't 501's; Looked more like a lady's cut but saw the 2 tone stitch, big E and gripper zipper so thought eff it. Later on showed them to the gf and she tried them on; perfect fit everywhere but the waist was too big. At the time she was a fashion student and was pretty handy with sewing machines (which was ideal for me with my barrage of trashed Levis to repair ) so unpicked them in preparation for taking them-in at the waist. But the trouble was that the sewing machines at college weren't industrial enough so the idea was shelved. Later on a small square, about an inch by an inch and a half, was cut out at the top back of the jean to repair another pair of dark 501's at the time. Later 2 of the back (extra on this model) belt loops were liberated, for why l have no idea. They have been in a bag under a wardrobe ever since. Took them out for photos thinking they were deadstock, as they are so dark and they still have the white cotton stitching on the waistband from the tag, but now l can see that they were briefly worn. They have details typical of the late 1960's imo. Number 8 top button, later nylon big E tab (black with red letters), single stitch waistband with V stitch and corresponding, albeit small, L stitch. Gripper zipper so pre 1969, 2 tone stitch throughout and the number 8 behind the button. No rivets but that olive-green/black bartacking stitch on the pocket corners, front and back. Also there's a stamp on the pocket-bag (?)

I think my original point was to try and nail down the weird back belt loop model 501, when it was made at least. The presence of the "F/o 60 years " on that deadstock pair with that belt loop feature at least nails it down roughly (in a Levis dating system kinda way). I know from visual research that it occurred after the Levis registered trademark patent of 1928 but before the Nra era, when supposedly all Levis garments sported an NRA tag . Speaking to a couple of Japanese denim collectors l'm reassuringly told early 30's. The trouble is after the depression Levis slowed down production from c.1930-33 and amassed a large amount of completed garments (this was to keep people employed until the recovery of the economy amongst other things). It supposedly took a few years to shift it all too until the dude ranch thing really took off. As far as l'm aware, the oldest unwashed pairs of vintage Levis 501's were all manufactured after 1928, don't suppose you know of any collectors who can beat that date-wise?

Has your friend ever seen a "For over 50 years " without the 1927 copyright? Never seen a For over 40 or 45 years, wonder why they haven't surfaced more often??

In the 501XX book it states that the starting date of Ls & co 'changed' from 1872 to 1853, hence "F/o 100 yrs" and "F/o 110 yrs" are off date wise. Also from 1937 onwards, most (but not all) are pairs that have the guarantee ticket and a dated pocket flasher, so not too much hopping around. More connected.