Dr_Heech

Exactly. We go from Nine ounce in For over 60 (c.1932) years and then Ten Ounce in the For over 70 years (both types, c.1942) and the For over 80 years tickets(c.1952). Yet in the For over 85 years ticket, Levi's just put in made from 'Top weight denim', no actual weights were specified.

1945 pocket flasher with For over 85 years ticket, so a circa 1957 501XX model. Courtesy of Fake Alpha.. Tried to zoom in a little

Went to take a look at my bike, but it's buried under the family fleet and tbf probably hasn't been cleaned since I last used it, which was at least 2020 😊 This due to bad health as opposed to laziness. Hey Siri, l mean Sufu. Can you please insert my photo on its side despite the fact that l haven't altered it in anyway, and despite attempts to resolve the problem otherwise, thanks in advance 😐

^Plus one for Decathlon. My Mrs loves hers. No nonsense value imo, or at least it was 10 or so years ago 🤫

And $3.75. Gone up a bit since the $2.25 for the Deadstock 1942 pair owned by Larry of Hellers café.

Hey @beautiful_FrEaK - in addition to the above discussion, the "for over 80 years" ticket also states Ten Ounce denim. Here's a 1945 flasher with a for over 80 years guarantee ticket. Levi's claim to have brought out the For over 70 years ticket in 1942, which makes this pair with the For over 80 years ticket from 1952 at least. But still with the 1945 flasher. Levi's have done this deliberately just to mess with our denim heads l reckon. This pair is owned by the Jukebox guy.

Does FW do lycra? Asking for a friend

Possibly one unsettled night only for me as between contacting BF and you about it l had given myself a good hard talking to on several occasions and decided that unless l get concrete info re- measurements, l'm gonna leave it. 48 hours later, l was fine. Got my og Stormrider out and thought "nah, l don't need it". I think it's just too risky altogether plus there's the added import duties ( last order l got stung big time and it has put me off ordering from Japan again). l am just trying to enjoy what l already have but get tempted still by the odd piece. Luckily with me being crap on the internet, they have become harder to obtain so l can save for other things 🙂

Photos always seem lighter than reality with my phone but here are my pair of WH 1915 Belt loop model (1922 501XX) after their 3rd wash. Denim has faded super fast compared to what l'm usually used to but l have had them as part of rotation for nearly 3 years so l guess that's fair. Only a little cotton becoming worn/unravelled at the front pocket openings otherwise they are outstanding imo. Patch is a doppelganger for a vintage one. Love these. Anyway, so the first photo has been Sufu'd cos l had to chop my toes out of the pic, sorry

@MJF9 CSF dimensions deserve a thread of their own 😂

@Double 0 Soul Funny you should mention that particular feature as l've always noticed that FW (and some other more vintage repro brands) put that detail on the back pocket but only on one side, for obvious reasons, but it always irked me as l have truly never seen that detail on vintage levis. Maybe he odd pair but l don't remember it at all so never really sat well with me. I always remove that bit of stitching from my repros and will do so again with my FW'42s before wearing them.

Definitely iconic, check out the steez

Lovely @Double 0 Soul

No problem Grant. Hey it was always a bit loose until l started to fill out a bit more recently. Now it's perfect

Confusing. @indigoeagle Which one is the armpit to armpit measurement and which is the shoulder to shoulder measurement? thanks Here, for shits and giggles, are the visual measurements of my Og early 1960s Lee Stormrider in a size 46 Regular.

Those underarm measurements seem very different. I'm out in town atm but going to measure my old sz 46 Stormrider when l get home just for comparison 😁

Agreed, the temptation l have to purchase that early 50's 101LJ feels almost tangible.

I don't know how to link but it's easier to go through Instagram.

What model?

Thanks. They were a tour pair, 12 different people wearing them over the year. So the only answer l can give, which is true incidentally, is that their backstory of wear and tear and different environments and washing 'techniques' over 12 months, is what makes a patch age like that. Personally I thought it would deteriorate/fall apart along time ago but it's hanging in there. Tbh l only wear them occasionally - they are from my Grail rail, jeans that are a little fragile in places but are also aged perfectly, sometimes babied, sometimes not. They have all the right ingredients to be mistaken for a vintage pair, right?

They do! I once owned an original version of the 101LJ with the separate liner and their version looks spot on. That blanket looks crunchy 😍

Some beautiful recent releases from Lee Japan, firstly the 1945 101-J prototype model with older style Lee cowboy buttons and also the early 1950s version of the Lee 101-LJ with separate liner (the model before the first Stormrider labelled model) - 1945 101-J 1952 101-LJ Both are really well replicated imo and l'd buy both in a heartbeat but l'd never get round to wearing them; l have an og Stormrider and that doesn't get enough wear as it is - so l wonder why l want them so? I think part of it is that they look like perfect clones and that rarity of Nos/deadstock/raw vintage pieces appeals to me as though l was briefly stepping back in time and picking these items out to wear from new. It fuels my imagination l guess but the reality is l'm much less active than l was due to health issues so they would just live on a hanger most of their lives. Just wish they'd produced these some 10/15 years ago 😪

Interesting question Tilmann, it seems regardless of denim weight, the 'for over 70 years' ticket was used during the war up until 1945/46. Whether the weight was changed it doesn't coincide with the tickets at all and l'm often wondering if it's a typical levis manyana thing to use up older stock tickets or flashers. I've seen early 1947 models that still use that older ticket. Here is an example, sorry only photos l have available.

Beautiful WW2 501. No S or XX on patch but 1945 copyright on pocket flasher. Some lovely sloppy stitching and details, especially the yellow paint. Looking forward to the next Sugarcane repro 😉

I have the 1942 1st pattern deck jacket (zipper version) which is very similar to the tanker jackets insomuch as it's jungle cloth outer with the melton wool liner. Bonus detail is the acetate lining sandwiched in between the two which acts as a waterproofing. Warm up to a point although the non-lined pockets aren't warm at all.