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Also @beautiful_FrEaK l don't know if you guessed it but those 1945 S501XX 'A' in the video are the number 27 pair in the 501 book.

Thanks for posting this ( and thanks to @Double 0 Soul for helping with the translation on YT vids) - Nice to see the original 1942 501XX which they used to make the replica in their latest SSDC line up, also that two-tone waist chain stitching on the 1945 506XX. The only time l've seen that detail on 501 jeans made between 1940 and 1942 so good to know it also applies to jackets.

In comparison to Broark's electric jeep, here's my Nice thing. Ford focus 1.6 which will be 20 years old next June. I've driven her for 13 years and every year the garage says they can't weld it up any more for MOT's but somehow do. It was used for many family holidays in Devon and Cornwall and does a good run down to London no problem. It's got dents from cattle and many scratches and gets cleaned once a year if that - This last part more to do with parking next to a dusty yard full of tractors working etc and cow muck on the roads around the other site where l work. The commutes not bad, a 14 mile round trip up and down cotswold lanes which are steep and narrow, especially the rat runs. Trouble is once there is some roadworks, the whole commute now seems to grind to a halt. Normally takes me 15 minutes to get home, today it was 25. Regardless of the deteriorating state of my car l will keep pushing for Mot again and again because it has already been made/constructed and paid for and is as cheap as motoring can be with my current income. Reading the last few pages here l know l am going to be f**ked when l have to decide on a replacement. Although hopefully I'll find a new Ford Focus, one that's only 10 years old haha. Anyway, carry on..

I must admit, the 1922 213 jacket in the book has some awesome underarm combs/fading where the excess material bunches, but it does look slightly uncomfortable to wear so it would be some commitment l guess. The pic of the blouse/jacket l posted above is from a collector who has an impressive collection of small button 506/213 but so far this is the only image released so we'll have to wait. Why don't you put your '22 jacket aside as a work jacket only. Few years of yard/DIY work and those fades will come .... eventually.

Wow, does it have enough pockets do you think? You could keep all of your other clothing in the pockets of that one coat. Unless you were Broark of course 😉

Hey @MJF9 and @AlientoyWorkmachine - Some inspiration for you for future wear possibilities in the shape of this original 1922 model 506XX. This is only the second one l think l've seen apart from the one in the levis jacket book and that has no cuffs.

@LazyS FW 42's?

@Double 0 Soul Thanks Neal, will give it a go!

Shame there's no translation with it but l certainly get the gist. I always thought there was some major battles going on between Lee and Levis during the 1930s and 40s and l always thought that the levis Type 2 was a quickly cobbled together response to Lee's more stylish looking 101-J Riders jacket. Mind you, the 101-J Cowboy jacket of the late 1920s up until the end of WW2 was almost a direct copy of the Type 1 as it wasn't a patented design, whereas the New Lee Riders jacket was! Plus the denim used to make Lee products was sanforized whereas Levis was STF, so the Riders 101-J could be more body hugging and looked more stylish than the outdated pleated styles that had gone before. Here are some snaps of another early 101-J Riders (c.1945) with the older stock Cowboy buttons. Luckily this one is a rare unwashed example which still has the Patent pending label present. First time l've seen one (thanks to Arakawavintage) All this, then in 1959 Lee brought out its Westerner range with colourfull vat-dyed jackets and matching trousers whereas Levis had to wait for the Type 3's release in 1961 before it could do the same. As a side note, l recently discovered that the Type 3's designer was Jack Lucier, son of red tab inventor Chris Lucier.

That's correct @MJF9 😆 And they do have a touch of the Lee's about them

@vlad_III continuing on from the conversation in the denim blunders thread about Freewheelers jeans with arcs, here are my pre-2009 (l think?) 1947ish Bootleggers 601xx. They were part of a worldwide tour that Duke kindly organised back in 2016. They were gifted to me after tour ended and l have worn them infrequently ever since, only gently washing once. One of my favourite all time repros for sure. I've tried to snap a few pics to give the feel of them, detail-wise. They are constructed with many different gauges of thread, and at least two colours of thread overall: yellow and orange, with the arcs and beltloops being dual colours or 'rainbow stitch' as it's sometimes called. The leather patch is fragile and probably won't last too much longer but still readable. The tab is still intact but very curled, with BOOTLEG clearly in white.The coin pocket rivets were removed by me back in 2016 and the remaining pocket rivets were hammered by someone else, although whom l cannot remember now. Edit - Sufu Ai doing its best to scew up my photo orientation as usual ffs

Class tux set up @MJF9 and perfect fades.

Who knows? They look like a legit pair of 70's (l'm presuming) made in the USA Wranglers to me. Any more intel?

Awesome. They are now on my grail rail.

I don't think FW ever had arcs on their jeans (Duke would be the man to confirm this) but l am lucky enough to have a pair of Bootleggers 40s repros which have arcs. Really special 501XX repros that are now vintage in their own right. When it is light enough to snap some pics I'll share them here - they were gifted to me after the @Duke Mantee sponsored 'Bootleggers world tour' over on the now defunct denimbro forum circa 2016. Edit - and they have a burgundy Bootleggers tab 😁

Great find @scooby As soon as l saw them l knew they were mid 70's single stitch redlines. There is something unique about the denim used on the 501's of that time (l had a couple of pairs back in the 80s/90s) and yours reminded me specifically of a pair l once had, so thanks for sharing mate.

Happy birthday Paul, looking good mate!

Never understood the appeal of Beyonce's music but then again .. Nick Camen 😐

@MJF9 maybe a nod to the Nick Camen levis ad of the 80's?

No unfortunately not. And now l have my teenage son living with me, so for him it's a magic laundry basket but for me it's more washing to organise and get dry ... So l have an non-magical laundry basket atm 🥲 (tiny violin playing in the background)

🤣 the magic laundry basket

Lvc 1937 at the bottom, Csf 1941 in the middle and FW42's at the top. Both the repro 37 and 42 models have the standard yoke set up, whereas the pair in the middle do not. The standard yoke set up is what we are used to seeing on 501's made from August 1942 up until the present day which sees the bottom panels overlap the top ones, like on the lvc 37's and FW42's shown. The non-standard yoke set up is the csf 1941 pair in the middle. It sees the top panels overlapping the lower ones, a feature which just about 99% of the denim pants manufacturers used in their jeans construction at the time, only levis waited until c.1940 to do it, then flipped it back c.April 1942. Hopefully cleared all that up now 🙃

Yes there were two different things happening, the yoke switch (as already described) And the switching of the left over right/right over left back panels. The yoke switch around has now been roughly estimated c.1940- August 1942. Whereas the back panels switch around several times between 1937 and 1942. I have a few images but they're on my defunct laptop unfortunately, of levis 501's made between 1937 and 1942 which show variation in the back panel set up. So in the examples you've shown of the FW models, the FW37 and the FW42's have both types of back panel set up you would expect to see within that time frame. It's one of those weird anomalies that l almost didn't want to accept as it was confusing the hell out me and l couldn't date it exactly 😁 Now l understand it is just a feature of that time frame with no real explanations as to why(?) Maybe they were just experimenting with things as there were a few short lived experiments that didn't stay long, for example - the understitched rear belt loop which was a feature on pairs made in and around 1935/36, when the '1922' 501 was replaced by the '1937' model. We still don't know why or what that was all about but there's plenty of speculation.

There doesn't seem to be any reasons why they switched from right over left panels, to left over right panels on the back of the top block, if that's what you're asking? They seem to switch backwards and forwards over the period 1937- 42, which is strange considering only one factory before 1943. The yoke, from underlapped to overlapped, and then back again, as l've just explained, changed in around 1940 and returned to normal in 1942. Nobody seems to know the reason for that change either.

Looking good @beautiful_FrEaK and not a puke stain in sight. Do you find the denim to be faster fading, than say the standard 47?