SUPERDENIM SMALL QUESTIONS THREAD (Use instead of making new threads)

[julian-wolf]

Sometimes I go beltless even when I’m not wearing jeans that have a cinch

[Dr_Heech]

1 hour ago, mlwdp said:

Anyone here go beltless when it comes to wearing denim that have a cinch in the back, using that to tighten the waist instead of a belt?

Only after they are washed and dried. After a few days wear without a belt they stretch/loosen up and l don't want to keep moving the buckle pins along so l tend to wear a belt most of the time. 

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

^^ same. Also most times I find that the cinch does not cinch the waist enough, or as tight as needed. 

[Maynard Friedman]

I never wear a belt with cinch back jeans.

[Double 0 Soul]

1 hour ago, julian-wolf said:

Sometimes I go beltless even when I’m not wearing jeans that have a cinch

Either there is a double negative in here^ or my dyslexia is seriously fucking with me.. it reads to me like you're not wearing any jeans at all?

Either way.. i think Sugarcanes are easy to wear without a belt (i never wear one with SCs) due to their nipped waist whereas some brands which share similar measurements to SC through the top block and thigh tend to have a larger measurement across the waistband which needs a belt to keep them up.

[Dr_Heech]

54 minutes ago, Hopethisoneisnttaken said:

^^ same. Also most times I find that the cinch does not cinch the waist enough, or as tight as needed. 

Yeah l think the cinch is only handy if you're going full suspenders (oo-er missus).

I tend to wear a thinner (mm thickness) belt so the cinch isn't a problem anyway.

I tend to believe that the slimmer you are the easier it is to use the cinch as the only thing keeping them up (was thinking of my son here and his lvc 37's), whereas when you have a bit more round the middle, the cinch tends to do only half the job (need a front cinch too lol) but that's just my tuppence worth.

[MJF9]

I like to mix it up!

I fully cinch my bigger-sized SCSC 42s, which are deliberately big on the waist, with no belt.  I partially cinch the smaller-sized ones with no belt on the few times I've worn them

I almost fully cinch my FW 37 and wear beltless but also wear them with a slim belt from the one-and-only @Duke Mantee

I like to see the pucker and fades from cinching - it can look mega 

[Double 0 Soul]

 

20 minutes ago, Dr_Heech said:

I tend to believe that the slimmer you are the easier it is to use the cinch as the only thing keeping them up (was thinking of my son here and his lvc 37's), whereas when you have a bit more round the middle, the cinch tends to do only half the job (need a front cinch too lol) but that's just my tuppence worth.

Reminiscent of those fellas you see in the pub with the big beer bellies overhanging their jeans who tell you "i'm still a 34" waist" ..

[ATWM]

No belt most of the time.

Def no belt with my cinch backs. Only have 2 pairs, but I tend to order them a size up and then crank them just about all the way. 

[CSL]

I tried it years ago but found it uncomfortable. It's not so bad on work pants where the cinch is below  the waist band.

[scooby]

Who currently offers a heavyweight high rise straight leg jean that isn’t made from extremely slubby denim?

My line up lacks anything above 15oz and do miss having something heavy to throw on from time to time 

 

Most importantly, a roomy top block and a higher rise, if there is a mild taper it’s not a deal breaker

Thanks

[julian-wolf]

^ Maybe Tender Co. Type 125?

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

Black Sign Vocalion waist overalls are 16oz. 

[UkeNo]

Denime’s current Denim is 15.9oz 

[okimoto]

A small section of the chainstitch on the back center seam has broken on my jeans. I’m not sure if this is recent or old. They have a bit less than 2 months of wear with only an initial wash.

How important would a timely repair be? I am not sure if this is something that would unravel quickly with more wear now that the chain is broken or if it is insignificant. The yoke has stretched a lot but I’d like to reach 2 months before washing.

As an aside, how has your opinion of jeans needing a wash changed? I’m particularly interested to hear from anyone who initially went from frequent washing to a longer time worn between washes, but everyone’s opinion is welcome.

[CSL]

I would repair it. Better safe than sorry. 'A stitch in time saves nine...'.

[julian-wolf]

^ Yep. That’s a one minute repair on a machine or a 5 minute repair by hand, then you won’t need to think about it again for another year

[Broark]

9 hours ago, okimoto said:

As an aside, how has your opinion of jeans needing a wash changed? I’m particularly interested to hear from anyone who initially went from frequent washing to a longer time worn between washes, but everyone’s opinion is welcome.

This has actually been my experience to an extent lately, I still wash somewhat frequently since I live in a hot climate and tend to wear jeans most of the year. But now when I’m starting off a pair I try to go a bit longer before my second wash (after the initial shrink) just to help the definition set a bit more.
I was finding that many of my pairs end up looking pretty similar so I’ve been trying to go a bit longer between washes lately.
Trying it now with my Slash LF44, we’ll see how they turn out!

[Cold Summer]

Somewhat similar to Broark, I usually try to go 3-6 months before the first wash, and then after that, every1-2 months, or just whenever my jeans happen to need it. I find I get consistently good results this way, with a nice balance of contrast and texture.

[Broark]

Sorry if I glazed over this and I know this was discussed recently, have any of my fellow Americans been hit with tariff charges yet?
I've been thinking about ordering a pair of the Cushman 22501xx for a bit, just trying to determine if I really want to pay extra.
Gotta love living in 2025. 

[ATWM]

18 hours ago, Broark said:

Sorry if I glazed over this and I know this was discussed recently, have any of my fellow Americans been hit with tariff charges yet?
I've been thinking about ordering a pair of the Cushman 22501xx for a bit, just trying to determine if I really want to pay extra.
Gotta love living in 2025. 

I've paid extra, but in just restricting myself to US based retailers since the spring. I can't see how it's avoided these days.

The one exception is that I ordered a black pair of WMJ from Simone in the same style/cut as my contest jeans, so whenever that's done we'll see what happens. 

[mlwdp]

I’ve stopped buying from Japan altogether.  The little shop I buy from ships with Japan Post which I believe no longer ships to USA unless I’m wrong.  Another shop I buy from uses DHL and they’re having issues converting yen to the usd, with high prices ensuing.

Overall, been using weight loss as a motivator for buying new clothes.

[Broark]

Guess I'll just hold off, not like I need new jeans anyways. 

[julian-wolf]

Yeah, I didn’t expect this to make a huge impact on my buying habits, in practice, but with some of the horror stories I’ve been reading about DHL’s poor handling of customs documents, I’ve ended up not buying anything at all for the last couple months

[Broark]

Same here, I had already been holding off on purchases but the risks associated now make that choice even easier.

[mlwdp]

So I was right about Japan Post not shipping to USA right now?  Still blows my mind.  😧

[Double 0 Soul]

DHL fk'ups aside.. what would a pair of (lets say) SC47s cost you under the new tariffs?

Here in the UK, we'd pay..

£130 (ish) for the jeans, +£25 shipping, +2.5% duty, +20% vat, +£12 admin = £215 ($290) to import them from JP.

With an average UK salary at £28,200 after tax, (£2350/mth) the jeans would cost 9.15% of an average monthy income so..

215 ÷ 2350 = 0.0915 x 100 = 9.15%

SC47s retail at £325 ($423) in the UK

Proxy is and has always been key for us...

[julian-wolf]

DHL fuck-ups aside, I suspect they’d still be a bit cheaper here: something like 15% duty + $10–20 admin fee + $35ish shipping. Taking your initial price at face value, that would total to around $250—but I’m suspicious that the initial price should be closer to £110, unless MSRP went up?

Without DHL fuck-ups and with a ¥19.8k retail, I’d expect a total closer to $210. This is compared to $245 at Self Edge. Personally, at that point, I’d rather spend the extra $35 to support the local shop…so I guess in that sense the tariffs are “working”…but in reality I just end up not buying the jeans, and it’s a wash

Edited September 30, 2025 by julian-wolf

[Double 0 Soul]

You're probably right.. i just guessed at the price of SC47s

Ok lets say 'a generic pair of £130 / $175 Japanese denimz'

[Le Clown Bleu]

waking up a 3am to buy denim whats wrong with me, these samurais better be worth the wait