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I trained with kettlebells exclusively for years while I had access to basically nothing else. Heavy swings and heavy double bell front squats as well as Bulgarian split squat variations are the key IMO. You’ll never get the same overall load as with a barbell, and a heavy kb front squat is more core intensive, but it is still plenty for the legs of anyone not into competitive lifting. There is an old program called Kettlebell Strong that you could maybe find somewhere on Reddit - it is just progressive overload like any other training program but focuses on front squats and clean and presses, so it is quite efficient at getting everything some work. 

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4 minutes ago, ATWM said:

heavy kb front squat is more core intensive

I really do find this to be the case with most kb movements, than say a barbell - for overall capability and strength, it brings into play so many more muscles in a more true-to-life usage.

The requisite strength in the forearm and wrist for example just to press a kettlebell up from the shoulder.

I do still have an interest in more classic barbell usage, but for my commitments and lifestage right now, kettlebells at home is the one!

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1 hour ago, PBTony said:

Any particular training plan? I was thinking of focusing more on legs. 

Inspired by Dan John - I was doing 400 swings a day starting at 16kg and when that became light l went up to 24kg, (big jump I know!)

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3 hours ago, bod said:

Inspired by Dan John - I was doing 400 swings a day starting at 16kg and when that became light l went up to 24kg, (big jump I know!)

Didn’t expect to see Dan John mentioned on Sufu. At my peak I did the 10k swing challenge (500/day) with a 32kg, doing one armed swings. I don’t think that’s an approach he’d even recommend. The pandemic really made me focus, ha. Right now doing that with a 24kg would be a stretch probably. 

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3 hours ago, Alec Leamas said:

I really do find this to be the case with most kb movements, than say a barbell - for overall capability and strength, it brings into play so many more muscles in a more true-to-life usage.

The requisite strength in the forearm and wrist for example just to press a kettlebell up from the shoulder.

I do still have an interest in more classic barbell usage, but for my commitments and lifestage right now, kettlebells at home is the one!

I’m obviously not a big dude at all, so my lifts are nothing to mention, but I would note that I did barbells for years - not super intensely or anything but I would go through cycles to try to notch up my lifts and then I didn’t touch one for like 5 years when I was focused on kettlebells. When I went back to a barbell all of my main lifts (dead, squat, bench / overhead press) were basically the same or only slightly lower, but my capacity for reps was better. At this point I’m mostly just fighting to maintain due to age, but I felt like barbell isn’t necessary after that. Weight is weight. Just depends on what you want out of it. 

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Affirmative. I got tricker trigger happy and fucked up a setting on cloudflare. Oops. Apologies

Awaiting rescue mission from Estonia. 

 

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Seems to have resolved itself. 🤷‍♂️ ​
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@superfuture thanks… the site seems to be moving ok now… I noticed the rep button showing who has repped ain’t working now, at least for me… 

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22 hours ago, MJF9 said:

@superfuture thanks… the site seems to be moving ok now… I noticed the rep button showing who has repped ain’t working now, at least for me… 

That's a feature reserved for paid members now, seems your subscription is out of date. 

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1 minute ago, reubensangwich said:

That's a feature reserved for paid members now, seems your subscription is out of date. 

Yes @MJF9 - looks like you are one of us now 😁

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Hahaha it transpires I expired (or to be accurate my subscription did)… cheers lads for pointing that out :) … 

Coincidentally… I renewed my blue tick as my lad just got a blue top from the local team… go Real Sociedad

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15 hours ago, reubensangwich said:

That's a feature reserved for paid members now, seems your subscription is out of date. 

repview anxiety is saving supertalk from extinction. 

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14 hours ago, superfuture said:

repview anxiety is saving supertalk from extinction. 

I hope you have your subs up to date or you won't know who rep you....

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Hi all. Are there any brands making an especially trim waist size relative to leg width? I'm a waist 30 or 29 but with pretty big legs, so I usually have to choose between a well-fitting waist or comfortable legs. Ideally I'd like something just on the wider side of straight leg but with a big taper towards the waist

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Phigvel does it for me.  Slim hips denim and trousers usually 114-116 cm but wide leg measurements.

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Maison Hellard has a 3 x 1 linen denim that is 520 grams per linear meter of a 1.5m wide roll. What doe that correspond to in terms of typical denim weight (10 ounce, etc)? I'm not too certain whether the denim weights are given by square meter or something else...

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Standard these days is per area, so 520 grams / 1.5 sq. meters = 350 gsm = 10 1/4 oz. / sq. yd.

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2 hours ago, Muddy said:

Hi all. Are there any brands making an especially trim waist size relative to leg width? I'm a waist 30 or 29 but with pretty big legs, so I usually have to choose between a well-fitting waist or comfortable legs. Ideally I'd like something just on the wider side of straight leg but with a big taper towards the waist

Same waist as you and if you can’t fit into a 20’s or 30’s style by any of the repro brands I’d be surprised. That said, Tender’s 136 cut is the most significant example of what you’re asking for. Very generous legs in the size 1, which fit snug but comfortably in the waist (though I would take a size 2 if I bought). Lots of wide cuts out there these days though - check the wide jeans thread. All of them full legs for their respective waist size. 

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15 hours ago, Muddy said:

Hi all. Are there any brands making an especially trim waist size relative to leg width? I'm a waist 30 or 29 but with pretty big legs, so I usually have to choose between a well-fitting waist or comfortable legs. Ideally I'd like something just on the wider side of straight leg but with a big taper towards the waist

At Last co lot 147 almost fits this bill.

But, I will also say, many a person has appeared on the forum asking this very same question, and I'm not aware of any proper solution. It's finding the balance that's "good enough" for you.

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18 hours ago, Muddy said:

Hi all. Are there any brands making an especially trim waist size relative to leg width? I'm a waist 30 or 29 but with pretty big legs, so I usually have to choose between a well-fitting waist or comfortable legs. Ideally I'd like something just on the wider side of straight leg but with a big taper towards the waist

The more recent Samurai WW2 models (s2000 and s3100) might work for you. Those seem to have generous thighs and upper block room at the smaller waists. I have the s200HX in a size 32 and front rise is 12", thigh is 13.5" at the crotch seam, 12" @ 10 cm below the crotch seam, and 9" leg opening.

The s3100 and s2000 are reasonably straightforward models for Samurai too with regards to details, especially the s2000 in the 15 oz fabric.

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On 8/4/2026 at 5:11 PM, Muddy said:

Hi all. Are there any brands making an especially trim waist size relative to leg width? I'm a waist 30 or 29 but with pretty big legs, so I usually have to choose between a well-fitting waist or comfortable legs. Ideally I'd like something just on the wider side of straight leg but with a big taper towards the waist

TCB 30's and SC2025 might be worth checking out, they both have very generous waist to thigh ratios. 

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I'm wearing the TCB 30s right now but from memory, the At Last & Co 147s have a more pronounced taper out from the waist to the hip/thigh. Either would work, but both cuts are firmly in the wide leg category (no taper towards the leg opening), so it depends on your preference there.

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@Muddy if you can find them, probably on Japanese auction sites, some of the Canes M series models have that silhouette but be sure to check the actual measurements.  I can comment on these 3 which I have... in order of most roomy first

M41030 - a 30s-esque model - I'm wearing these today, loads of leg space
M41051 - mid 30s Lee
M41001 - a late 40s, early 50s cut

More info in the M-series thread...

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Thanks for the reminder @MJF9, don't know how I forgot about the M Series.

@Muddy The M41057 (Lee WWII model) also features a nice wide leg, and can be had for a more reasonable price than other M series models, at least in my experience. 

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Thanks for the suggestions, everyone, really surprised at the number of responses. It's going to take a while to narrow it down to just one pair

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Thanks all. I'm adding all of your suggestions to my list. It looks like the trick will be finding the sweet spot between a standard straight fit and a contemporary wide fit

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