Warehouse

[Jared_Lee]

All right, I've been reading through the Warehouse thread from the beginning. Using that and Rakuten, I have a pair of 1003 ready to buy and two 1001 I'm weighing against one another.

 

I recently got the 700 one wash from BiG because I've waited for nearly a year now and still haven't found my size in the 1001. I am fine with Warehouse one wash and I love the 700 construction and fit, but for me, it's on the slim side of what I want to wear. The fabric seems to me to be in great shape with some stiffness to spare after o/w. I love them, but am still in the market for something higher and wider.

 

So, the two 1001 I'm weighing have the raw v. one wash debate and an offset belt loop in the rear to consider. May I have the attention of all the Warehouse masters and ask that you give input on which if these two I should purchase? I spent so many years working for denim brands that I wore out of obligation that all this freedom has led me in so many directions that I have gone round and round to find that Full Count and Warehouse are my thing. Now to split hairs, which would someone who cares recommend?

 

O/W http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/hinoya/item/1001-13/

 

Raw http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/rocky-house/item/1001xx-nw-2012/

[aho]

For higher and wider, you'd need to go with the 1003XX's, and in a similar vein, the 2012 1001XX's are going to be wider than the same size in the 2013 1001 since they slimmed it up for 2013. I personally prefer the older fit but you could still size up one or two on the 2013's for a similar effect. Not sure if that helps!

[Jared_Lee]

That helps a ton. I prefer to wash my jeans myself. Raw and wider, easy call, I'll get the 2012. The offset belt loop was interesting, but ultimately, not something I really care about.

 

Thanks, Aho!

[spacey]

Yeah the one-wash model you posted is the 2013 1001 which is overall slimmer than the raw model, which is the 2012 1001XX. Honestly Warehouse does a pretty good job on the one-wash so you can't go wrong with that. Like Aho said you could size up on the 2013 1001 model to get the same fit as you would if you went true to size on the 2012 1001XX model. But if you're only looking at the 1001 models, I would go for the 2012 raw one so you can control the shrinkage and also get the fit that is intended for the jean.

[Jared_Lee]

Some shit fit pics of the 700 as a thank you for the advice. I'm many whiskeys deep, so forgive the poor quality. Your clarity sealed two orders that I'm psyched to receive!

[Jared_Lee]

Yeah the one-wash model you posted is the 2013 1001 which is overall slimmer than the raw model, which is the 2012 1001XX. Honestly Warehouse does a pretty good job on the one-wash so you can't go wrong with that. Like Aho said you could size up on the 2013 1001 model to get the same fit as you would if you went true to size on the 2012 1001XX model. But if you're only looking at the 1001 models, I would go for the 2012 raw one so you can control the shrinkage and also get the fit that is intended for the jean.

Yeah, I have a one-wash from Warehouse and I have nothing negative to say about it. I got the the 2012 raw not because I feel I need to control the process, but because I love seeing the denim raw and the fit on me raw and then giving it a soak and seeing all the changes that I can't experience when buying one-wash.

 

Also, the way I size, from my experience around here, is probably up one as is. I get them comfortable to start and strap a belt on straight away. I spent enough time stretching out waist sizes. I can't be bothered. I'll gladly take hip flare over two weeks of stretching out a waste every time I wash my jeans. Haha.

[aho]

Merry Christmas all...Bought my dad a pair of WH 1001's for an x-mas gift and he's already doing the dishes in them!

 

 

Didn't tell them how much they cost but he beats his "Kirkland's" (Costco brand) to pulp and I'm hoping to see what happens with these...

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Great gift! 

Since there are not very much pictures of the Warehouse twins, there you go. (Stolen from Yamane, looks like all had a Christmas blast! )

 

[Mr-Bielby]

Warehouse sale is on. 1100, 1105, 800 and the other denim lines reduced. Picked up some more 1105's for 14,000Y. May go back for the 1100. The 1001's are not in the sale. Sad

[aho]

^Should've asked for you to proxy

 

Are the 1105's the 2012's with the embroidered "red tab"? I'd totally buy a size 34 off you if so

Edited December 26, 2013 by aho

[Mr-Bielby]

^^ they sure are. Last pair in the shop too. I should have gone 34 with the first pair I bought. Loving them.

[aho]

^I won't try to buy your thunder in that case...

 

...Although I'm seriously eyeing the 1003XX's. Waiting to hear back from Japan-Holic to see if they can scoop up a size 33; if so, I'm game!

 

EDIT: It's a no go...WH told J-H that they can't ship that model overseas so I'd have to go through a proxy instead. I'll likely just size up on the 1001's and take a new pair since I had to ditch my size 32's.

Edited December 26, 2013 by aho

[aho]

Extensive updates to the Brown-Duck & Digger website:

 

http://brown-duckanddigger.com/index.html

 

This looks to be WH's attempt at a global brand...interesting concept...

 

"The indigo leaf designed with paint and stitch, bar tacking using green thread, and a gauze patch illustrates the Billiken. This design reflects what BROWN-DUCK&DIGGER is about. Our basic lineup of 1900's, 1910's, 1950's, 1960's historical series are available. In addition, all series are equipped with the ultra durable continuous fly which is made of one front piece placed from left to right that extends beyond the sturdiness of crotch rivet. This method represents an example of how we make the very best jeans."

Edited December 28, 2013 by aho

[Jared_Lee]

If I remember correctly, the jury was still out on the denim used for the 2013 1003. I just received that and the 2012 1001. I snapped some comparison pics. The two are wildly different and the 1003 shares more in common with the 1000xx denim, than the 2012 1001.

1003/1001/700

1003 is a warmer caste, more irregular grin-through and hairier.

1003 top/1001 bottom. The 1003 is thicker, stiffer and more coarse than the 1001.

Both are beautiful.

1003 on top/1001 on bottom. The back pocket shapes are wildly different. The 1001 has an extreme bell and hard taper. The 1003 is much straighter both in shape and stitching. 1003 also has a stitched down red tab vs. 1001 having just the red stitching.

[SLAB]

great comparison pictures Jaredlee

 

I came across a collaboration wth jeans shop Izumi; its the 1001XX model with stitched down red tab and different patch called the Digger; apparently its made with denim that is usually reserved for the duckdigger line; limited to 100 pieces; sounds interesting!

 

12261651_52bbe010ae388 by SLAB13, on Flickr

[bradl]

Fuck I need to get a pair of Warehouse to start understanding what's going on with all the models. 

[Ciabatta]

Fuck I need to get a pair of Warehouse to start understanding what's going on with all the models. 

 

Me too. Been torn between Fullcount and Warehouse for my next pair. I think I'm leaning more towards Warehouse. 

[aho]

Excellent pickup and post Jared_Lee...Looking forward to the evo updates

[aho]

I've noticed that Lee x WH pairs (particularly 40's and earlier repros) tend to have some of the best fading characteristics. Check out this pair I found on insta:

 

I'll be keeping my eyes peeled in 2014 to see what they release next!

[BrownMetallic]

@jared__ when u get the chance, can you post measurements of the 1003 vs 1001, please?  thanx in advance.

[Capsicum Fried Meat]

that shit crazy, aho. please keep digging.

[garden gnomes in space]

LOL Aho the Warehouse bloodhound!

[Broark]

Everytime I see a picture of some well worn Warehouse jeans I convince myself a little more to grab a pair.

If I ever get these Momotaros sold I will definitely pick up a pair right away.

Those Lees look sick.

[Jared_Lee]

@B_M raw measurements are as follows using BiG style:

 

1003

Waist: 16.5â€

Front Rise: 12.25â€

Back Rise: 15.75â€

Thigh: 12â€

Knee: 9.5â€

Leg Opening: 8.75â€

Inseam: 35.25â€

 

1001

Waist: 16.25â€

Front Rise: 12.25â€

Back Rise: 15.25â€

Thigh: 12.5â€

Knee: 9.75â€

Leg Opening: 9â€

Inseam: 35â€

 

@Aho It'll be another few months before either sees a soak and any wear (I'll post measurements post-wash then). I just got my FC 0105 back from another little repair and those will be my daily driver through the end of March.

 

At this point, I think I'll dive into the 1001 first. The lighter weight denim seams attractive heading into spring/summer. Also, after living in the Zimbabwe beauty of Full Count, it'll be an easier transition. Haha.

 

On another note, one thing I have noticed about the two Warehouse I have worn, the top block seams very flat from front to back. I find that I can have a two-inch gap in the rear waist while sitting, yet still feel tightness in the lap. I'm hoping that the larger 1001 thighs will alleviate that, but I remember seeing Garden Gnomes post something about the structure of the top block being an issue more so than the thigh width (not necessarily about WH specifically). Front and back rise only account for length of each, not shape. I'm hoping I feel a little (not much needed to be perfect) better in these two than I do in my 700s.

[A-pink]

1000XX

 

 

 

credit.Charyen

[Rightyow77]

Have a 1000xx for sale in the market super cheap need a size down someone grab them or trade me a size down 

[aho]

My new pair of 1001's are in, and FINALLY I have a pair I can wear! Anyone considering buying a pair, don't hesitate and pull that trigger. Now that I've resigned to the fact that I'm a size 34, here are some great pairs on yahoo auctions that I can't currently purchase:

 

1000XX W Patch Grails size 34: http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u57592452

10th Anniversary 1001XX sz 34: http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e142411392

Not my size but possibly a good deal for size 32's out there: http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j273068557

 

Enjoy!

Edited January 3, 2014 by aho

[whackedout]

Damn how would I go about purchasing a pair, never used yahoo auction before, do i need a proxy?

[Sugar Mountain]

So Aho, are those 1001Z 15th not happening for you? I had to abandon my 15th annys as well because the waist was just too big and I need a size down for the cut to work. Grabbed a pair of Sugarcane '47s from Take5 instead but I will return to Warehouse at a later date!

[aho]

@whacked, I suggest sutocorp (check out their thread on sufu)

 

@sugar, Most likely not happening...  In a twist of fate, I could've made them work if they were button fly (the ol' "unbutton the top two buttons and wear a belt" trick) but the new 1001's are also too good not to wear. Perhaps we'll meet again next year for the 20th Anniversary pair!