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Dayton “Milkman” Drivers : 8yrs+, original soles, re-heeled twice. Had a few compliments through the years cuz of their unique look. Inspired by @persco_’s acquisition, thought I’d take a few snaps.

Pretty close. The waist measurement for W36 post wash was 35”, but stretched out to 36” quite easily. The fit/cut is fab ... like a comfy slim, IMO. Here’s the other measurement comparison for actual vs SEchart : f/r= 12.5 : 12 b/r= 17 : 16.5 u/t= 13.5, 13.25 @1” below crotch : 13 knee= 9.25 : 9 opening @32” hem= 8.25 : 8 edit: Btw, I could’ve gone tts @W34 if it wasn’t for the flourishing paunch ... so, I’d say a TTS for a slimmer fit.

Thanks @persco_

SCxSE BSPOW Okis : Sized up to W36

•FlatheadFlannel Shirt •SCXSE BSPOW Okinawa •Brownsbeach •Dayton Driver •EquusLeather

Dunno how u feel about Sashiko patchwork but, if they still fit, they’re worth saving. My worn-in pairs are the jewels in my collection. Pre-covid, most still fit ... unfortunately, now they’re collateral damage of the lockdowns . . . My “new normal” won’t be a W34

Evisu remains one of the best denim I’ve ever handled ... also, my most fails, in terms of sizing decisions. For me, tagged size numbers does not really mean much cuz they vary by production lots & denim type/lot. I still prefer getting the RAW version, but like CTB, I’m basing my sizing decision from actual preshrunk measurements. Next time I’m in Kyoto, I may go for a 2001 or 2005 in No.2 with a single, right side backpocket seagull painted in their store color.

Think ’twas @coleslawyum who said ... Size UP on No.1, DOWN on No.2

It’s a 3rd world version of the truth serum ... I’m told

Where I came from car batteries are for balls

@chicote It’s the nature of the beast, I’m afraid ... had the same feeling when I had my 1st engineer boots. U need to tweak your mindset a bit, cuz u’re so used to having things laced up & secured, down there. Concept is like wearing ur jeans slightly different from how ur used to ... loose & pulled down a bit ... or like, relaxing & letting your hair down, so to speak edit: ... & boot socks to boot

@cause4pause : To add to @chicote, hemmed up to a slight break, to allow for residual shrinkage down the line, especially if machine drying. I was a solid W34 for 8yrs, now forced to embrace my new reality which is migrate to a W36 I’m saying, if u got something special on hand, hold on to them ... u can enjoy that pair for a lot longer. Im sharing an experience that recently happened with the Evisu 2000T ... which I initially thought of replacing w/ a size down. edit: These are my solitary pair of Roys, R01 W36, which felt too big for me at the time ... double hot soaked, then cold washed, set aside & remained unworn ... NOW! Things are looking up

The top block fits much better after 3 washes, IMO. If I knew [that], I would’ve refrained from washing, kept wearing them loose [as shown above] & kept them darker, longer.

@lee porter yeah, u can do the hot wash & just hangdry. It’s just that when I acquired the W40 I was still a solid W34 on japs & I was a bit anxious, like u are now, that I may have overestimated the size-up, so I semi-panicked & opted on the nuclear option. I usually just double hot soak from raw ... not even wash ... but I wanna find out right from the start if it’ll work out or not cuz I don’t wanna waist leg-time on something that’ll not work down the line. Though the No.1 shrinks like mofo, u just can’t do it one shot ... believe me I tried . It’ll take a couple of washes for the denim to settle & stabilize. So, initially, don’t bother ... just wear them loose, better fit will come in time. I’ll do a fit evo when I get a chance. Caveat, I don’t have the proportions, like @beautiful_FrEaK , who gets [spot on] fits on the getgo. In fact, I do a lousy [initial] fit photo ... all the time Current measurements: W40L32 w= 18” , f/r= 11.5” , b/r= 15.5” , u/t= 13.5” , knee= 9” , leg opening= 7.5” , inseam= 31.5”

What size are u on other brands? I’m around W35-36. I bought my 2000T No.1 at their Ueno store. I tried the W38 O/W, but the waist seemed a bit tight, so I went for W40L32 in RAW. Initially, I just double hot soaked, but they seemed way to loose, so I got them hot washed & machine dried ... which I don’t usually do. Fast forward 2 washes later, the denim shrunk like a mofo ... the waist has stabilized at 36”, which fit me much better now. I’m so glad I didn’t go for the W38.