Shoes that look better with age...

[Duke Mantee]

… they can’t repair that?

[shredwin_206]

4 hours ago, Duke Mantee said:

… they can’t repair that?

They state these are not part of the rebuildable boot collection…..      

I’ve asked around and a lot of places want around $200 to sew a new welt and re sole. 
I may just toss them. A new pair of red wing 10877 cost $300 so I’ll prolly just do that….

[nick682]

1 hour ago, shredwin_206 said:

They state these are not part of the rebuildable boot collection…..      

I’ve asked around and a lot of places want around $200 to sew a new welt and re sole. 
I may just toss them. A new pair of red wing 10877 cost $300 so I’ll prolly just do that….

That's a damn shame! I can usually get close to 2 years out of Red Wing 4215 boots.  I recently got a pair of the Perry's, but lately I've been working in the office more so I'm hoping they last longer than yours! 

[Duke Mantee]

2 hours ago, shredwin_206 said:

They state these are not part of the rebuildable boot collection…..      

I’ve asked around and a lot of places want around $200 to sew a new welt and re sole. 
I may just toss them. A new pair of red wing 10877 cost $300 so I’ll prolly just do that….

That’s a shocking reply, and a shit excuse from White’s - that ‘damage’ is 100% repairable, as the others quoting you the $200 or so are confirming.

[julian-wolf]

That’s really disappointing

For what it’s worth, I’ve gotten the impression that only their stitchdown boots are ever marketed as rebuildable, so the same prob. extends to all the other welted boots & shoes as well…guess that’s part of why they cost $200+ less

[mpukas]

1 hour ago, julian-wolf said:

That’s really disappointing

For what it’s worth, I’ve gotten the impression that only their stitchdown boots are ever marketed as rebuildable, so the same prob. extends to all the other welted boots & shoes as well…guess that’s part of why they cost $200+ less

^ This ^

@shredwin_206 Honestly, I'm not surprised the boots didn't last you very long, as well as White's response. It always seemed to me that White's made that moc-toe boot at a lower price point to compete with the popularity and price of Redwing. I was always skeptical about the quality/durability compared to their hand lasted stitch down rebuildable made in USA boots. 

[julian-wolf]

Not that the quality of their stitchdown boots is perfect either—I’ve had constructional stitches pop in two separate places already on my Hikers, and I don’t think I’ve put more than ~30 days of hard wear into them—but at least they’ve been good about fixing stuff as it breaks

[mlwdp]

They’ve been pushing this White’s model to us bikers now at trade shows now too.  SMH 

[dudewuttheheck]

That's a pretty poor response from Whites. 

Edited August 14, 2021 by dudewuttheheck

[shredwin_206]

@mpukas I guess that’s part of my gripe is how whites is sort of marketing this as a way to compete with red wing and thorogood moc toes. 
but I believe those two brands are rebuildable boots? 
either way. Lesson learned. I’m very hard on things but still a bit disappointed. I’ve been a big whites fan for years but I think I may start branching out and trying Nicks or JK next 

[julian-wolf]

The Red Wings and Thorogoods are probably built the same as White’s—they’re all rebuildable (though I guess not by White’s in-house repair folks), and they’ll all cost $200+ to rebuild if the welt and midsole need replacing

[Maynard Friedman]

What do you mean by rebuildable? Is that the same as resoleable or something else? 

[Duke Mantee]

1 hour ago, Maynard Friedman said:

What do you mean by rebuildable? Is that the same as resoleable or something else? 

It’s just figurative speech, makes it all the more impressive  - but yes you can freely interchange rebuild, resole, remake etc

[mpukas]

To me, rebuild is more of an umbrella term, that can imply different levels of repair work. A re-sole would just be replacing the outsole, leaving the welt, gemming, mid-sole and in-sole (depending on the footwear) intact, assuming they're in acceptable condition. A rebuild could include replacing the welt, gemming, midsole and insole. 

[mpukas]

10 hours ago, shredwin_206 said:

@mpukas I guess that’s part of my gripe is how whites is sort of marketing this as a way to compete with red wing and thorogood moc toes. 
but I believe those two brands are rebuildable boots? 
either way. Lesson learned. I’m very hard on things but still a bit disappointed. I’ve been a big whites fan for years but I think I may start branching out and trying Nicks or JK next 

I've always thought there's a bit of romanticism around high-quality "heritage" work boots for real work, especially construction work like you do. White's, Nick's, etc. are expensive to get into, and expensive to repair/rebuild every couple of years. Is that really worth it, versus buying a cheaper brand that makes boots using cheaper cement techniques, knowing they'll last a year or two, and then throw them away and get another pair. I do think in the world of fire fighting, forestry, logging there's not a strong argument that can made against the top tier brands, in terms of durability, protection, and performance. 

 

[Duke Mantee]

12 minutes ago, mpukas said:

To me, rebuild is more of an umbrella term, that can imply different levels of repair work.

That’s what I said 

[tod]

On 8/12/2021 at 10:20 PM, shredwin_206 said:

after 6 months of wear these whites are now trash I guess. 
I sent them in for a re sole and they said they can’t re sole them because the welt is ripped….  
So in fact these are “fashion work” boots. 
not real work boots 

Holy moly, six months… Well, I guess they better rethink their description:

 

[mlwdp]

I sent back my Horsehide Wesco MP toe boss back to Wesco to get black triple stitching, longer instep strap and a 430 vibram resole.  Widened to e width too.

I’ll see them in 5 weeks.

Edited August 20, 2021 by mlwdp

[mlwdp]

Been seeing this insole being sold on Rakuten through retailers that sell White’s and Wesco so I bought them through Bakers Boots.I placed these into my Wesco Boss and they make my boots feel like sneakers with how comfy they are now.

[shredwin_206]

I swear by green superfeet these days 

[tod]

^^ I’m a Powerstep fan.

[Rob060]

These will be 6 years old in December. Distressed smooth bounty hunter, 1 resole after 4 years. Used for work 5 days a week.

[Thanks_M8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcb5cBemg7Y

Just saw this video of Radian Shoe Repair cutting down a pair of Iron Rangers. Looks good imo, interesting idea.

Edited August 27, 2021 by Thanks_M8

[Iron Horse]

My Lofgren lineup these days:

Edited August 28, 2021 by Iron Horse

[shredwin_206]

back to the OG work boot. 
the mighty 10877

[tod]

On 8/27/2021 at 10:47 AM, Thanks_M8 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcb5cBemg7Y

Just saw this video of Radian Shoe Repair cutting down a pair of Iron Rangers. Looks good imo, interesting idea.

That’s pretty cool. At one point I talked to Brian about cutting a pair down just below the top eyelet, which he said would be no problem, but I never ended up doing it.

[smoothsailor]

45 minutes ago, shredwin_206 said:

back to the OG work boot. 
the mighty 10877

Still going for the vibram sole?

[Thanks_M8]

^^ totally @tod! Really like the profile of the Iron Rangers more this way, maybe add a rolled top edge like he did on the Beckmans.

[mpukas]

On 8/28/2021 at 9:09 AM, shredwin_206 said:

back to the OG work boot. 
the mighty 10877

very curious to see how these hold up for you. 

About 1 year+ ago someone on a FB group had these resoled by a cobbler in MN w/ a double mid-sole, stacked leather heel and half soles. Looked f'g great. Can't find the post now. HATE that white wedge sole more and more the more I see it. But I'm sure it's comfy and serves a purpose for actual construction work. 

 

[Paul T]

Just had my vintage Lotus Veldtschoen rebuilt by the Shoe Healer. Excuse the quick iphone snap. They had the leather originals in pretty good condition but they separated. These make a really good contrast to my Sargents, which are chunkier all round.

Every day wear for my walks over the heath to school, especially for those rainy days when the buses all disappear.

Thanks to Ben, who helped source these, and was the first to try out the Shoe Healer. Had all my shoes redone by them over the last couple of years now I am a salaryman

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by Paul T