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12 minutes ago, barto said:

^ no belt loops on the p23a-ds

Really? How bizarre, I thought they were the same as the P17s but with those leg cuffs sewed on to the bottoms. 

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2 minutes ago, drgitlin said:

Really? How bizarre, I thought they were the same as the P17s but with those leg cuffs sewed on to the bottoms. 

Ordinary P23 pants have loops, but these just have the internal belt system like the P25.

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43 minutes ago, piece keeper said:

Ideal, but unrealistic, especially when we're talking about boutiques, which by very definition are small outfits. Most don't have the infrastructure, or let alone space, to stock that many items. With Acronym it's a whole nother lever of complexity: pieces are too expensive for a store to purchase several of, even if they wanted to; plus ACR itself is supply constrained so it can't provide the numbers retailers may want.

I suppose I don't really know the first thing about the process of operating a small inventory, high price retailer. Considering the prices vs something like the archetypal fashion houses, I would assume that margins on Acronym are far smaller. Which could have the potential to seriously harm the longevity of these boutiques if they get stuck with any dead inventory at all? I'm interested to see where this is going over the next few seasons, with the influence of the hype I expect Acronym to continue to raise the prices until they find their price equilibrium on the number of sales made (It's been ages since I took economics, if someone can help me on the name of this concept). After which point, one might assume that they would use the excess revenue to expand the brands production and bring prices back down? Is it even possible to create an economy of scale on a product that is intended to be on the cutting edge year after year?

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They could definitely make twice as much and still be cutting edge :)

PSA kith NYC has j16 in M and a full size run of the two tone j64, as well as p10a in large

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Am I the only one being shocked that firmament did not stock this season? You know The Glade era etc. They did not respond to me about this on fb. Any info?

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I was lucky enough to get an XL but I can see why the boutiques might choose to up more on other sizes, XLs are still sitting on some websites from previous drops.

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3 hours ago, cornerska said:

That seems kind of absurd. Previously I was under the impression that items in the store are meant to be reserved for in-store sales, and the online orders should come from a separate stock that is not on the floor.

they could always do the instore drop first then release whatever stock is leftover online like darkside. would please the people who spent their time to go down to the store worth while although stock might not remain for online :D

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Kamikaze said:

they could always do the instore drop first then release whatever stock is leftover online like darkside. would please the people who spent their time to go down to the store worth while although stock might not remain for online :D

I agree. With the multitude of easy to use and totally simple plug in POS/Inventory Management solutions out there these days, it's silly to think they might take a pair out of your hands because someone just bought it online.

So easy to put stock as in store and then just shift it to online say 2-3 hours after opening.

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1 hour ago, eidolarr said:

They could definitely make twice as much and still be cutting edge :)

PSA kith NYC has j16 in M and a full size run of the two tone j64, as well as p10a in large

Thanks for this info. They accept phone orders as well.

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12 minutes ago, Cairxoxo said:

I agree. With the multitude of easy to use and totally simple plug in POS/Inventory Management solutions out there these days, it's silly to think they might take a pair out of your hands because someone just bought it online.

So easy to put stock as in store and then just shift it to online say 2-3 hours after opening.

Easy logistically, but may present business problems.  If it's a coordinated worldwide launch like ACR, your shop is basically competing with all other retailers to sell the product, and every second you delay is a second your competition gets a leg up.  Maybe not so much an issue these days with hype as it is, but in days past when ACR was still niche there weren't too many people looking for this product, or willing to pay for it (actually I guess this can still hold true for less hyped items in the releases).  So delaying online launches can sometimes backfire as the in-store crowd might not bite for whatever reason, and then the ones that would've elsewhere in the world have already purchased elsewhere.  Now you're stuck with a $1000+ item no one will buy, and you still have to pay ACR for it.  That said, I'm all for supporting local shops!  

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1 minute ago, piece keeper said:

Easy logistically, but may present business problems.  If it's a coordinated worldwide launch like ACR, your shop is basically competing with all other retailers to sell the product, and every second you delay is a second your competition gets a leg up.  Maybe not so much an issue these days with hype as it is, but in days past when ACR was still niche there weren't too many people looking for this product, or willing to pay for it (actually I guess this can still hold true for less hyped items in the releases).  So delaying online launches can sometimes backfire as the in-store crowd might not bite for whatever reason, and then the ones that would've elsewhere in the world have already purchased elsewhere.  Now you're stuck with a $1000+ item no one will buy, and you still have to pay ACR for it.  That said, I'm all for supporting local shops!  

Absolutely - but as you highlighted not so much of a concern at present. Pretty much everywhere that stocked this season is sold out in everything. 

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36 minutes ago, Cairxoxo said:

I agree. With the multitude of easy to use and totally simple plug in POS/Inventory Management solutions out there these days, it's silly to think they might take a pair out of your hands because someone just bought it online.

To be clear, the good folks at Hotoveli gave em to me and canceled the conflicting online order.

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5 minutes ago, eidolarr said:

To be clear, the good folks at Hotoveli gave em to me and canceled the conflicting online order.

Anyone who doesn't operate that way is an asshole. 

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8 minutes ago, eidolarr said:

To be clear, the good folks at Hotoveli gave em to me and canceled the conflicting online order.

In all seriousness, that was my order. :(

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7 hours ago, iamundying said:

surprised to see j64ts-s available in small (raf) or medium (black).

please PM if you wish to know where it's available

copped in black thx

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1 hour ago, capnpyro said:

anyone get any cashllama pieces and can speak to quality of the fabric?

Waiting for my SM1-AM and will update once it’s in hand.  I’m sure it’ll feel extra Bolivian.

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1 hour ago, capnpyro said:

anyone get any cashllama pieces and can speak to quality of the fabric?

Both my beanie and gaiter are 100% cashllama. Really nice fabric, super warm and comfy. I personally don't find it at all scratchy either like some other wool.

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46 minutes ago, Cairxoxo said:

Both my beanie and gaiter are 100% cashllama. Really nice fabric, super warm and comfy. I personally don't find it at all scratchy either like some other wool.

Did you ever read the tag? It says it's a "self cleaning" material. Curious about that.

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On 9/21/2017 at 8:18 AM, vir2L said:

US ΛCROИYM® FW-1718

Man, looking at this, makes you realize just how small scale Acronym is.

Pretty sure E's take home from Acronym is very minimal.  Looking at the complexity of product, COGS, logistics cost/qty, I can somewhat understand the pricing.  

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10 minutes ago, shieldsy said:

Man, looking at this, makes you realize just how small scale Acronym is.

Pretty sure E's take home from Acronym is very minimal.  Looking at the complexity of product, COGS, logistics cost/qty, I can somewhat understand the pricing.  

"Pay me in J28s."

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I’m fairly certain each shop would’ve/should’ve received a full size run.  What makes it to the sales floor/site is a different story.  Can’t hate though, everybody want the Stotz now.

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1 hour ago, Cairxoxo said:

Both my beanie and gaiter are 100% cashllama. Really nice fabric, super warm and comfy. I personally don't find it at all scratchy either like some other wool.

I second this. I have both the beanie and gaiter from last AW. Only issue I have is with the gaiter not bouncing back after repeatedly being stretched putting it on and taking it off. It’s a great fabric. Soft, comfy and warm.

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45 minutes ago, AvantSol said:

Did you ever read the tag? It says it's a "self cleaning" material. Curious about that.

Yea the instructions are this exactly:

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Hand wash 30 degrees. Do not wring. Do not use bleach. Do not use dryer. Iron at medium temperature. Professional dry cleaning.

Washing is not always necessary. Llama wool is a self-cleaning fiber and requires less washing than other materials.

 

FWIW I haven't washed them at all yet, and wore them a lot over this winter just been (southern hemisphere).

13 minutes ago, Voyager said:

I second this. I have both the beanie and gaiter from last AW. Only issue I have is with the gaiter not bouncing back after repeatedly being stretched putting it on and taking it off. It’s a great fabric. Soft, comfy and warm.

Yep, exact same two pieces I have. Haven't personally noticed much stretch in the gaiter yet but I'll keep an eye out. Super, super happy with them both though.

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1 hour ago, shieldsy said:

Man, looking at this, makes you realize just how small scale Acronym is.

Pretty sure E's take home from Acronym is very minimal.  Looking at the complexity of product, COGS, logistics cost/qty, I can somewhat understand the pricing.  

What's your definition of minimal. Between Acronym, Nike ACG, and SISP, I'm sure hes doing pretty well for himself.

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sum1 talk 2 me bout the built in tightening mechanism of the p23a and p25h lollllllllll

best feature: self loosens while you're walking down the street

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Dude, 8 neck gators went out to retailers. Whatever your definition is that’s minimal as fuck.

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3 minutes ago, chris_n said:

sum1 talk 2 me bout the built in tightening mechanism of the p23a and p25h lollllllllll

best feature: self loosens while you're walking down the street

Yea, letting the straps hang must be for photos only.  Tying them is a must.  You pretty much pull your pants down reaching into your pockets, at least on the 23a.

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