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To be clear, the good folks at Hotoveli gave em to me and canceled the conflicting online order.

They could definitely make twice as much and still be cutting edge PSA kith NYC has j16 in M and a full size run of the two tone j64, as well as p10a in large

This was Hotoveli. Totally slept on last year, I strolled in late afternoon and they had almost full stock. This year there were 3 people outside waiting for it to open (I was one of them) and it was all gone in S/M within minutes. for the P23A they only had S,M,M,L so they may have had less stock as well.

WTS or WTT: J58-WS in S. I love it but don't need it. If you'd like to buy in cash I'll give it to you at no markup, but i'm going to incinerate the plastic bag and spec sheet to try to discourage resale.

I think they have the items in inventory set to go live at 11AM, and as soon as that happens it's available online. Whether you have an item in your hand or not, if someone buys it through the website before you've swiped your card and gotten your receipt, it's removed from the inventory. Luckily the guy working the register was reasonable, since I'd been outside waiting for the store to open, but there's no hard and fast rule about what happens. It was a pretty crazy experience, actually. This is a boutique store that wouldn't otherwise have people lining up outside or stuff flying off the shelf. They let us in at ~10:58. I guess they had their ipad tied to online orders, because every time anyone bought online something it made a cash register sound; at about 11:00:20 it started going off constantly. The guy was like "can you grab the P23A in large, the J64, and the P23-S in small - wait, two P23-S in small."

I feel you there in principle. If I know my size is S but they have only XL left, obviously I'm not going to get it. But the sad reality is that the system is now "buy immediately without thinking, decide later." There's no time for fitting rooms to figure out whether you're S vs M, or M vs L. If you don't buy, it will be gone the moment you put it back on the rack. In fact, someone ordered the P23A's I was studying as I was trying them on, maybe 60 seconds after the store opened. I figure, in the worst case I sell a piece to someone on here directly, at the price I paid; that way I at least know it's probably going to a legit fan rather than some bot reseller.

I was initially bummed because P23A-DS in S was sold out and I had to buy a M instead. But the waist is so huge anyway that I'm wondering if it matters. The cinches work great, looks and feels much better than, say, P10's in M would.

WTT P23A-DS, my M for your S

Thanks very much for the tips. I obviously have a belt, but the DS fabric is kind of unstructured and readily "caves" in an ugly way if you've got too much extra fabric.

I'm thinking of having the waist taken in by about an inch on my P10TS-DS. Has anyone had luck with this?

I've been using a pair of Outlier climbers, which are an older generation of the same fabric, as powerlifting pants for about three years now. Hundreds of deadlifts and powercleans scraping up and down, and not a single scratch stays. Similarly, I tripped rushing for a metro train in the rain in my P10TS-DS the other day, and though the pants were unmarked, my knee underneath was scraped to hell. That said, I missed attaching a clip on one of these chin up belt things, and it went right through the fabric of the climbers. So I guess the abrasion resistance is way better than the puncture resistance.

A good idea, but unfortunately I believe the limiting factor is the production pipeline, not the designs. The factory that makes it can only make so much, and is typically at-capacity.

The interior fuzz is kinda shoddy and has worn off completely in the crotch/thighs, but I guess I don't understand its purpose? I'm not bothered now that it's gone at all. The Acronym pants don't have that fuzz, maybe because they use a newer generation of the fabric. One thing that worries me: though DrySkin seems to be extremely abrasion resistance, it punctures very easily.

For what it's worth, I've got a pair of Outlier Climbers, which are made of a very similar material to the P10TS-DS. I've owned them for about four years, and I've done lots of barbell training in them, which involves dragging a knurled steel bar up against the shins repeatedly. I've thrown em in the wash absolutely caked in chalk many times, and they're still as black as the day I got them. So you are likely fine washing the P10's as often as you want.

I looked at mine and the pockets are sealed proper, so it might just be you. Sorry dude.