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[nick682]

The color is very unique and they seemed to darken a little bit after water hit them.

I've done one soak and one machine wash/hot dry.  They have shrank quite a bit.  I was in a hurry this morning and didn't get to measure them before wearing them. I will take some measurements before I send them off for a hem.

[Alec Leamas]

Post-first wash, wearing in a bit while waiting for another wash, before sorting the arcuates and sending off for hemming - the 1101 1970's Big E's.

Granted the light has made the photos well dodgy and the cuffing is making the lower leg not sit quite right, but hey, happy to contribute anyway.

You can see the bright blueness of the fabric the most in the 3rd photo. I'm pleased with these, I can't usually wear a tapered jean of any kind as they grip my calves like they're trying to strangle my feet. Looking forward to seeing how the shape drapes and wears in over time once they're hemmed.

[scooby]

@Alec Leamas they look great

[zachary12]

got my sz30 1101s

washed at 60 degrees coz water comes out at the tap @ 40 in australia

waist shrunk 7cm, measures 36cm

denim is heaps neppy and soft, but not as soft as banner

 

[super-thermite]

After about 10 years on the heavy stuff I’ve started to dabble in the lighter side. That’s lead me to repros. With the Yen on sale, I’ve been snapping up some likely silhouettes from Full Count, OA, and now with the Warehouse 1101 Big E.

 

I’ll probably add my other pairs to their proper thread but these actually inspired me to finally post something. I found out about these right here. I’m shocked by how much I like them.

 

They may be my favorite jeans of all time. The fading potential is incredible and they fold so nicely. Does anyone know if this is their regular denim with a different dye, or is this something completely different? I may try another pair of 1101 if their banner denim is different. I like the fit a lot. They’re very comfortable for me.

 

These are a size 30. I’ve hot washed them 3x, inside out in a regular washer, and I dried them partially in the dryer. Twice when they got here, and again after I spent a couple days skiing in them. I forgot my base layer. Wore them under my bibs with no issues. They are that comfortable.

 

Shoes are new Moto shells. Took a risk on a size 3 and they fit my size 11 feet perfectly. Prewash pictures at the end.

[yung_flynn]

34 minutes ago, super-thermite said:

They may be my favorite jeans of all time. The fading potential is incredible and they fold so nicely. Does anyone know if this is their regular denim with a different dye, or is this something completely different? I may try another pair of 1101 if their banner denim is different. I like the fit a lot. They’re very comfortable for me

I don't have a pair of 1101 for comparison, but the denim on the new Big E's is different than the Banner denim. The 1101 denim is more of a 60s denim (to my understanding), while Banner Denim is a 30s denim. The Banner Denim has a nice gritty hand feel - in a vintage and not an exaggerated way. There are some 1001xx photos with Banner denim, including my own, on page 363 of the thread.

 

Edit: here is a side-by-side close-up of Samurai zero denim  beneath WH banner denim for reference/comparison. Banner denim has a textured and gritty feel but not as extreme as say a Samurai denim

Samurai zero denim

WH Banner Denim

Edited February 7 by yung_flynn

[super-thermite]

@yung_flynn thank you for that explanation and the pics. Now I'm definitely going to try the banner denim as well. This is such a nice pattern.

[CharlieMike]

Hello, I noticed one thing on my WH 1101 BigE 1970, on the belt strip the bottom seam is almost invisible. Is this a historical detail about the 501 70s? Has anyone noticed this on theirs? 🤔

[CharlieMike]

Some photos of my 1970 WH 1101 BigE after a 40 degree wash. W33. The cut is really good, the fabric too, superb texture. I have a question about the fabric, I read that the fabric used for these jeans was newly developed for this model. Does anyone know if the fabric used by Levis for the 501 BigE in the early 70s is very close to that used by WH on this model? I would be curious to get an opinion from someone who has been able to compare the two.

[Cold Summer]

@super-thermite I also posted my 1001xx in Banner denim in the Evolution Of Jeans thread recently, at nine months of wear and several washes. Incredible denim, one of the best I've worn, and extremely comfortable and well suited to warm weather wear, which is a bonus since I live in a place that's hot much of the year.

[yung_flynn]

1 hour ago, Cold Summer said:

@super-thermite I also posted my 1001xx in Banner denim in the Evolution Of Jeans thread recently, at nine months of wear and several washes. Incredible denim, one of the best I've worn, and extremely comfortable and well suited to warm weather wear, which is a bonus since I live in a place that's hot much of the year.

How's the crotch on yours holding up? My pair is roughly the same age and just got a much needed pre-emptive crotch repair this morning after I could see seam opening in the airport yesterday

[Cold Summer]

@yung_flynn There's barely any wear on the crotch, since I have slim thighs there's very little pressure put on them. The only pairs where I had any substantial crotch fraying were very tight-fitting slim tapered jeans of the sort I no longer wear, like the 3Sixteen ST-120x and RH15. Maybe also my Full Count 1108, which is at about 13 months of rear wear, and has quite a slim top thigh.

Anyway, on my 1001xx, the knees and rear end will wear out and require darning long, long before the crotch will, on my straight fit jeans. I suspect my 1001s will need knee/butt repairs within three months of additional wear or less.

[super-thermite]

@Cold Summer I just checked yours out and I'm sold. I did grab a pair of the DSB from Bears when they were available this weekend. Definitely going to need the banner denim but I've learned from ya'll on SF, when that DSB denim is available, you grab it. It's wild that I can get two pairs of Resolute for what I've paid for one pair of IH.

[CharlieMike]

Hello, I would like an opinion / advice for the Warehouse lot 1001xx deadstock blue 1947. In terms of cut, is this “the real cut” of the 501 from this era? I'm looking for a "perfect" reproduction. Does anyone have the measurements for a size W33? And I was wondering if this is the same fabric that is used for Deadstock Blue 1947, 1953, 1954? Is there a wider model in these 3 models? Is Deadstock Blue the same as Banner denim? Does it fade well? Thank you in advance for your help.

[southofnonorth]

17 hours ago, CharlieMike said:

Hello, I would like an opinion / advice for the Warehouse lot 1001xx deadstock blue 1947. In terms of cut, is this “the real cut” of the 501 from this era? I'm looking for a "perfect" reproduction. Does anyone have the measurements for a size W33? And I was wondering if this is the same fabric that is used for Deadstock Blue 1947, 1953, 1954? Is there a wider model in these 3 models? Is Deadstock Blue the same as Banner denim? Does it fade well? Thank you in advance for your help.

I think of mine as a nice fitting approximation of the 1947 501, not a perfect repro. Can’t help you with W33 sizing – I’m a W31 in all the Warehouse I own. I’m a fan of Warehouse but their streaky/grainy fades are not my preference. 

[CharlieMike]

Does anyone have the measurements (after several washes) of lot 1001 Dead Stock Blue 1947 for size W33? (Waist flat, front rise, back rise, upper thigh and leg opening). thank you in advance for your help

[Jared_Lee]

@CharlieMike, funny enough, I have exactly that from the contest prize with Signet.

Pre-wash/Post-wash & tumble

Warehouse Deadstock Blue 1001XX/1000XX 33

Waist: 34” / 31”

Front Rise: 13.25” / 12.5”

Back Rise: 17” / 16.25”

Thigh: 12” / 11.25”

Knee: 9.75” / 9.25”

Leg Opening: 9” / 8.5”

Inseam: 34.75” / 32.25”

[CharlieMike]

16 hours ago, Jared_Lee said:

@CharlieMike, funny enough, I have exactly that from the contest prize with Signet.

Pre-wash/Post-wash & tumble

Warehouse Deadstock Blue 1001XX/1000XX 33

Waist: 34” / 31”

Front Rise: 13.25” / 12.5”

Back Rise: 17” / 16.25”

Thigh: 12” / 11.25”

Knee: 9.75” / 9.25”

Leg Opening: 9” / 8.5”

Inseam: 34.75” / 32.25”

@Jared_Lee Thank you so much. Did you put it in the dryer?

[indigoeagle]

On 2/17/2024 at 11:49 AM, CharlieMike said:

 Is Deadstock Blue the same as Banner denim?

I had tried to get some understand of the different denims and their nomenclature.

I had a look again and I think these are basically the main fabrics:

1. Dead Stock Blue DSB/WWII
it seems to be indicated by „(1000XX)“

There are two weights
a) pink selvedge- 13.5oz. 7.5x7.5
examples:
Lot 1001XX(1000XX)【1947MODEL】

b) pink selvedge- 14oz. 6.7x6.6
strong vertical fading
examples:
Lot S1003XX(1000XX)【1942MODEL】
S1001XX(1000XX) 1946MODEL
Lot S1000XX
25th Anniversary S1001XX(1946)

2. New Denim/WWII Denim
orange selvedge 6.7 x 6.6 (ca. 14oz, sometimes described as 14.5oz)
example:
Lot.DD-1003XX NEW DENIM 1946 MODEL

3. Banner/Three State  13.75oz  7x7
examples:
Lot 1001XX
Lot DD-1001XX(1947 MODEL)
Lot 900XX

4. Memphis Cotton 14.5oz  6x6
examples:
Lot 800XX(STANDARD)
Lot 1001XX HEAVY OUNCE

edit: Hmm, there seem to be two kinds of WWII denim: DSB and new denim. Not really sure.
But the pink vs. orange selvedge seems to be the difference.

Edited February 19 by indigoeagle
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[yung_flynn]

On 2/17/2024 at 5:49 AM, CharlieMike said:

Is Deadstock Blue the same as Banner denim? Does it fade well? Thank you in advance for your help.

I've never had DSB denim, but based on my pair and the other Banner denim pairs on the last few pages (mostly DD 1947 pairs, including my own) and some of the DSB examples that I've seen, it seems like the DSB may fade faster than the Banner denim. I don't know if I've seen anyone fade a pair of each though, so the comparison may be skewed a bit.

[super-thermite]

@indigoeagle this is very helpful. Thank you for sorting these numbers out.

4 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

I had tried to get some understand of the different denims and their nomenclature.

I had a look again and I think these are basically the main fabrics:

1. DSB/WWII
it seems to be indicated by „(1000XX)“

There are two weights
a) pink selvedge- 13.5oz. 7.5x7.5
examples:
Lot 1001XX(1000XX)【1947MODEL】

b) pink selvedge- 14oz. 6.7x6.6
strong vertical fading
examples:
Lot S1003XX(1000XX)【1942MODEL】
25th Anniversary S1001XX(1946)
S1001XX(1000XX) 1946MODEL
Lot S1000XX

2. Banner/three state  13.75oz  7x7
examples:
Lot 1001XX
Lot DD-1001XX(1947 MODEL)
Lot 900XX

3. Memphis cotton 14.5oz  6x6
examples:
Lot 800XX(STANDARD)
Lot 1001XX HEAVY OUNCE

Just received the WAREHOUSE Dead Stock Blue "Lot S1001XX (1000XX)" 1946 Model WW2 Model. Bears basically teleported them here to Colorado. After a hot wash, as I do, I found a couple of prominent "creases". Using my washing method. I never get these on any of my jeans. I looked at them more closely and the creases made dark vertical streaks on the denim. This made the crease look darker. Figured it had to be a characteristic of the denim. 

 

This is my thigh and you can kind of make out an example of the DSB vertical streak. I'll put some pre as post fit pics later.

[Jared_Lee]

@CharlieMike, yes, laundromat washer and tumble dryer.

[CharlieMike]

Le 19/02/2024 à 14:43, yung_flynn a déclaré :

Je n'ai jamais eu de denim DSB, mais sur la base de ma paire et des autres paires de denim Banner sur les dernières pages (principalement des paires DD 1947, y compris les miennes) et de certains des exemples de DSB que j'ai vus, il semble que le DSB puisse s'estomper plus rapidement que le denim Banner. Je ne sais pas si j'ai vu quelqu'un s'estomper une paire de chacun, donc la comparaison peut être un peu biaisée.

Thank you for your message.

[CharlieMike]

Le 19/02/2024 à 12h10, indigoeagle a déclaré :

J'avais essayé de comprendre les différents denims et leur nomenclature.

J'ai regardé à nouveau et je pense que ce sont fondamentalement les principaux tissus :

1. Stock mort Bleu DSB/WWII
il semble être indiqué par « (1000XX) »

Il y a deux poids
a) selvedge rose - 13,5 oz. 7,5x7,5
Exemples :
Lot 1001XX(1000XX)【1947MODEL】

b) selvedge rose - 14 oz. 6,7x6,6
forte décainure verticale
Exemples :
Lot S1003XX(1000XX)【1942MODEL】
S1001XX(1000XX) 1946MODÈLE
Lot S1000XX
25e anniversaire S1001XX(1946)

2. Nouveau Denim/WewwII Denim
selvedge orange 6,7 x 6,6 (environ 14 oz, parfois décrit comme 14,5 oz)
Exemple :
Lot.DD-1003XX NOUVEAU MODÈLE DENIM 1946

3. Bannière/Trois États 13,75oz 7x7
Exemples :
Lot 1001XX
Lot DD-1001XX(MODÈLE 1947)
Lot 900XX

4. Coton Memphis 14,5 oz 6x6
Exemples :
Lot 800XX (STANDARD)
Lot 1001XX OUNCE LOURDE

edit : Hmm, il semble y avoir deux types de denim de la Seconde Guerre mondiale : DSB et nouveau denim. Pas vraiment sûr.
Mais le bord rose par rapport à l'orange semble faire la différence.

@indigoeagle Thank you for your contribution, it’s very useful! I got a response from Warehouse, the DSB is the same fabric on the 1947, 1953, 1954 models.

[indigoeagle]

For the 800XX sizing up is recommended, but how much, if you normally wear a 34, just to 36 or even 38?

I'm asking because the measurements are very small for the waist:
second sunrise for the one wash: 36-42cm 38-44cm
selfedge for the rinsed one: 36- 81.25cm.  38- 82.5cm
hinoya also o/w: 36- 84cm 38-88cm

Most of my jeans measure 90cm (flat measured x2)- so the 36 would probably stretch to that , the 38 would be more comfortable.
It just seems a lot.

[lee porter]

I’ve sized up from 34 to 36 perfect for me

[Lazerr]

19 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

For the 800XX sizing up is recommended, but how much, if you normally wear a 34, just to 36 or even 38?

I'm asking because the measurements are very small for the waist:
second sunrise for the one wash: 36-42cm 38-44cm
selfedge for the rinsed one: 36- 81.25cm.  38- 82.5cm
hinoya also o/w: 36- 84cm 38-88cm

Most of my jeans measure 90cm (flat measured x2)- so the 36 would probably stretch to that , the 38 would be more comfortable.
It just seems a lot.

I had to go from a 34 in the 800 to a 36 in the 800xx .

Here are Pictures of the two and the size 34 is bigger even though it's been washed, and all the shrinkage should be out by now. 

Edited February 28 by Lazerr
Added link

[indigoeagle]

7 hours ago, Lazerr said:

I had to go from a 34 in the 800 to a 36 in the 800xx 

Here are a few pictures of the two and the size 34 is bigger even though it's been washed, and all the shrinkage should be out by now. 

Thanks

Pics are not showing for me though.

[nick682]

17 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

For the 800XX sizing up is recommended, but how much, if you normally wear a 34, just to 36 or even 38?

I'm asking because the measurements are very small for the waist:
second sunrise for the one wash: 36-42cm 38-44cm
selfedge for the rinsed one: 36- 81.25cm.  38- 82.5cm
hinoya also o/w: 36- 84cm 38-88cm

Most of my jeans measure 90cm (flat measured x2)- so the 36 would probably stretch to that , the 38 would be more comfortable.
It just seems a lot.

I'm normally a 31 and a 33 in the 800xx fits me perfectly.

[Lazerr]

4 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

Thanks

Pics are not showing for me though.

Thanks for that, just updated