Sugar Cane Denim

[JDelage]

What do people think of the new 80/20, 16.25oz denim vs the old 50/50, 14.5oz?

[JDelage]

I'm placing an order for the SC 16.25oz 80/20 jeans, as well as the type 2 jacket. I'll post pics when I get them & have a minute...

[Ciabatta]

Picked up a pair yesterday. The denim is dark and has some slub and hairiness but I find it to be very breathable. The little extra weight isn’t that noticeable. The pocket bags are also very nice. 

Edited October 17, 2018 by Ciabatta

[JDelage]

Details on my Okinawa SC40301. That texture’s hard to beat...

[longshanks]

Well the black Melton wool sports jacket I ordered arrived and it is an absolutely beautiful jacket and the details on it are incredible. Unfortunately I think it might be on the small side for me (went with a 38) so I may be reselling it. Will get some pictures up after work today!

[JDelage]

I got my 16.25 80/20 tuxedo. Usual solid SC work. Two colors of thread, no arctuate, nicely textured denim.

 

 

[Thanks_M8]

They look great, do you have any fitpics @JDelage?

[JDelage]

No - I'mm getting ready to go to France for the week and I don't have the time to do that. I can tell you that they fit as expected. The jeans are true to size and the inseam must be 33" or so - I can wear it now with a single cuff. The jacket is nice and substantial, with plenty of room at the top but a fairly narrow waist. Both items are one-washed & reasonably supple from the get go.

[JDelage]

Man, I need to learn to take better pics with my iPhone. The color is horrible...

Edited October 19, 2018 by JDelage

[longshanks]

Quick fit pic, managed to get this before it started pouring down. Will hopefully get some better pics up this weekend and some more detail shots. Really love the jacket but the body and sleeve length still feel short. I may try rocking it for a little bit before I decide if I should keep it/sell it. 

[chambo2008]

Looks good to me 

[Bobbo]

^^ Perhaps it works the best with high waisted jeans? Looks good though. I'm also thinking of picking it up.

[JDelage]

I'd take the bigger size. The sleeves are just a tad too short.

[shredwin_206]

So I really want a pair of SC to add to my collection. If you could only own one pair which pair would you buy? 

Which cut should I get? I typically wear high rise cowboy cut denim from WH Ranch Dungarees. 

Also wear straight leg cuts from ROY

[Maynard Friedman]

I would get either the Okinawa or the Hawaii - depends on whether you prefer the left hand twill of the former or the streaky irregular colour of the latter.

[JDelage]

Or the new lot 304, which has the same cut.

Lot 304: https://bookshelf.wisebook4.jp/html/toyoenterprise/26669/#4

Hawaii & Oki: https://bookshelf.wisebook4.jp/html/toyoenterprise/26669/#8

I'm not sure that any of those is LHT. I think they all are right hand twill. Of the 3 above, the Oki (SC40301) are the only ones available in a non wash version. All are available in a 1 wash version.

 

EDIT: Now that I look at the catalog page, it does seem that the legs of the Oki and Hawaii are twisting differently. We need someone who can read Jpz...

Edited October 20, 2018 by JDelage

[MileHighEvertonian]

@ecsong187 SC47s are quite fabulous, if understated, and would be great to see juxtaposed to Roy's black seed cone denim. But...Okis are on another level; they're exceedingly rewarding as they go through a series of distinct stages of evolution. 

Also, you can always get unwashed versions of 47s, okis, hawaii, & 2009 stateside from history preservation associates.

 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

1 hour ago, JDelage said:

Or the new lot 304, which has the same cut.

Lot 304: https://bookshelf.wisebook4.jp/html/toyoenterprise/26669/#4

Hawaii & Oki: https://bookshelf.wisebook4.jp/html/toyoenterprise/26669/#8

I'm not sure that any of those is LHT. I think they all are right hand twill. Of the 3 above, the Oki (SC40301) are the only ones available in a non wash version. All are available in a 1 wash version.

 

EDIT: Now that I look at the catalog page, it does seem that the legs of the Oki and Hawaii are twisting differently. We need someone who can read Jpz...

The standard Okinawa fabric is indeed LHT.

[alpharikk]

hi, I'm Alpharik from Indonesian.

if I take SC4030 16.25oz should I choose tts or downsize 1?

thanks!

[tigerstrom]

17 minutes ago, alpharikk said:

hi, I'm Alpharik from Indonesian.

if I take SC4030 16.25oz should I choose tts or downsize 1?

thanks!

I personally would go tts

[Ciabatta]

Always tts with sugar cane. 

[alpharikk]

On 25/10/2018 at 3:05 AM, tigerstrom said:

I personally would go tts

 

On 25/10/2018 at 4:06 AM, Ciabatta said:

Always tts with sugar cane. 

Ah thanks for the advice!

[Foxy2]

On 10/24/2018 at 11:06 PM, Ciabatta said:

Always tts with sugar cane. 

unless it's one from the old natural indigo series...

Edited October 26, 2018 by Foxy2

[elmcitizen]

If anyone is interested in some OKBSP in a larger size (38, but fits like a 36), I'm letting my barely worn pair go:

OKBSP via Grailed

 

[laismemoir]

Hi guys, 

I just got my first Sugarcane type 1 jacket 16.25 oz. 

The fabric is awesome, I really like it. However,  it seems to be quite large for me, especially with the back and sleeves. 

I'm wondering should I do a hot soak to make it shrink a little bit before wearing? 

Thanks guys! 

Edited October 30, 2018 by laismemoir

[theguywhoknewthatguy]

@laismemoir I have the same jacket in one wash. I put it in the washer right after purchasing just to make sure all the shrinkage was out and the measurements barely budged. If its too big, best to size down. I'm 5'11", 170 lbs with an athletic build. I ordered both a 40 and a 42. I could only fit a t shirt underneath the 40 so I went with the 42 since I wanted to layer and have more freedom of movement

Edited October 30, 2018 by theguywhoknewthatguy

[tigerstrom]

@laismemoir yeah I would size down

[kiya]

3 hours ago, laismemoir said:

Hi guys, 

I just got my first Sugarcane type 1 jacket 16.25 oz. 

The fabric is awesome, I really like it. However,  it seems to be quite large for me, especially with the back and sleeves. 

I'm wondering should I do a hot soak to make it shrink a little bit before wearing? 

Thanks guys! 

 

It looks like you got the one-wash version, meaning you definitely need a full size down because that industrial washing/drying process gets rid of nearly all of the shrinkage in that denim.    I would get one size down in the one-wash or better yet get a raw version of the jacket in one size down and do your own at-home soak.

[laismemoir]

@kiya @theguywhoknewthatguy @tigerstrom thanks guy. 

Sad to hear that. It is one-wash version 

There's no chance that I can return it. 

[Pedro]

SugarCane Raw vs One Wash.

1st Post.

Just bought 1st pair “used” Okinawa after years as dedicated LVC. (A little loose fitting on me 36x34).

Very impressed with SC and want to buy more. Next up are the Hawaii.

I always cold soaked my Raw LVC and I am curious the pros and cons of the SugarCane Raw vs One-Wash concerning shrinking and fade.

Thanks 

Edited October 31, 2018 by Pedro