Acronym.

[beepy]

[QTOX]

4 hours ago, leg said:

Of course it's real, thats FW-0506, first official season

Thanks! 

[SuE]

There really should be a public acrhive; even if E doesn’t want all his photo albums and videos on unofficial sites, fans could have just a list of product names and fabric types a la illposed for outlier

[Inkinsurgent]

I know it's counter to what they're about  but E should just produce an archive redux where they drop two or three key pieces from each of the 05-12 seasons.

 

Like a nod to everyone who's been around that long and would love to scoop up a fresh version of one of their old grails.

[fasttimes]

That's literally what they are and have been doing

[nodre]

14 hours ago, leg said:

Sure – https://imgur.com/a/VvOx9m4

amazing to see what design queues have survived / had the legs. thanks for this

[mezonik]

Man, what a treat to see all these images again. Thank you

[dranoelsy]

On 12/4/2021 at 5:13 AM, Inkinsurgent said:

I know it's counter to what they're about  but E should just produce an archive redux where they drop two or three key pieces from each of the 05-12 seasons.

 

Like a nod to everyone who's been around that long and would love to scoop up a fresh version of one of their old grails.

There were a handful of past references and key pieces this season tho

Some were slightly tweaked throughout the years and some got major redesigns then released under a new name

J3-HY = HY-J3 from '08

P10 = big flagship pant in 2015's era 

P24A = also 2015's era throwback. Redesigned P3A from '05-'06

J29 = updated version of J11 blazer from '10s era

J38-LP = J38 blazer coat from '13-'14

S14-BR = hoodless version of BR-HD1 from '11-'12
 
J16-GT = GT-J16 originally released in '07

J90 = basically a stripped down version of SS-J8 from '09. Would love to get this in white or beige with black contrast

NG4-PS = started as the NG3-PS from '15/'16. Most iconic NG

More older stuff this season than ever imo alongside the handful of newer experimental silhouettes and colors

[dranoelsy]

Wish sufu search function wasn’t so trash

I’ve posted a few fitpics with my WS-P3A on here

Nice to see that grey color come back this season

[Inkinsurgent]

Yeah, i'm quite aware they've been updating old designs - i'm talking about just straight up dropping the SS-J2 or P11-CH again. Kind of a factory version of Hanon's archive drop.

[fasttimes]

Hope you weren't too attached to the shoulder pocket heh

[P_Zen]

Really like the styling End is doing...

Also for those interested, Draw is now up for the J1W-GTPL in Grey and Schwarzrot. 

https://launches.endclothing.com/product/acronym-2l-gore-tex-paclite-plus-interops-jacket-j1w-gtpl-swz

[Appleseed]

8 hours ago, Inkinsurgent said:

Yeah, i'm quite aware they've been updating old designs - i'm talking about just straight up dropping the SS-J2 or P11-CH again. Kind of a factory version of Hanon's archive drop.

Yes, the 'updates' and price increases are kinda missing the point

Perhaps ppl see J29 as the current J11, but they're really quite different jackets...

 

-and for the record, I'd prefer small-batch CZ babičkas-made stuff over the MIC deluge.

Edited December 6, 2021 by Appleseed
politicking

[daniel]

1 hour ago, Appleseed said:

Yes, the 'updates' and price increases are kinda missing the point

Perhaps ppl see J29 as the current J11, but they're really quite different jackets...

 

-and for the record, I'd prefer small-batch CZ babičkas-made stuff over the MIC deluge.

I'd prefer small-batch CZ babičkas-made stuff over the MIC deluge

AGREE !!

[iamundying]

^ i think it's a matter of you can't have the best of both worlds. small batch will inevitably lead to inflated resell prices which the MiC product group have been helping to keep at bay since its introduction. 

[thatslapz]

Updated - I don't want people sizing wrong.  These feel slimmer due to the material, but use the measurements as a guide - just know there will not be a lot of stretch.  

Monkey typewriter time.  The P24A-E came in and the most noticeable update seems to be they feel slimmer from prior iterations. Mediums fit me how smalls used to fit, and the first release small P24A-DS and P24A-S felt looser than these.  My P34-DS mediums also were looser in the waist and baggier throughout the leg, so I would just say take your normal size, or go up if you're in between sizes.

I prefer how a normal reinforced hem sits on prior versions/other pants. The ease of adjustment with the draw cords for different shoes is convenient though, so it really just comes down to personal preference. Since I only had the first release, having the interior phone/organization pockets in the cargos is a welcome addition on this cut.

The E material maintains the pocket structure similar to stotz (my favorite fabric to pair with this style).  I may be imagining it, but the cargo pockets also seem a little flatter than prior releases.  You can fit things in the cargo pockets without bulging (34 DS) or sagging (24/30/38DS), so it is a good solution for low volume things.  Personally, I would have preferred bigger pockets that leaned more into a BDU than tailored trouser look. The cargos wrap around the leg more like the P37.  While I appreciate the hide in plain sight philosophy and the pant's ability to transition between multiple environments (who travels anymore anyways though), if I am going somewhere where cargo pants/BDUs wouldn't be acceptable, I would probably not be wearing 24a in the first place.  

The fabric has been discussed already, so I will just say its properties suit the cut well.  Hopefully we see a future release in different colors with some (subtle) contrasting hardware to highlight the features instead of masking them. The P30A-E navy with black hardware looked great and I certainly would not mind a 24A-E like that.

Edited December 7, 2021 by thatslapz

[brainerd666]

1 hour ago, iamundying said:

^ i think it's a matter of you can't have the best of both worlds. small batch will inevitably lead to inflated resell prices which the MiC product group have been helping to keep at bay since its introduction. 

I’d disagree with that. All it did was set a new precedent for the mothersite only items being even more rare than before. And hence demanding a higher price. The price increase a couple years back and overall disambiguation have done nothing to effect resell in the long run imo. 

[thatslapz]

23 hours ago, thatslapz said:

Updated - I don't want people sizing wrong.  These feel slimmer due to the material, but use the measurements as a guide - just know there will not be a lot of stretch.  

 

See update - these feel slimmer to me, likely because of the material.  But as I note take your normal size or go up if you are between sizes (due to less stretch)

Also fit pic

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by thatslapz

[nathan_]

10 hours ago, thatslapz said:

See update - these feel slimmer to me, likely because of the material.  But as I note take your normal size or go up if you are between sizes (due to less stretch)

Also fit pic

I know you're posting fits in the J1B just to spite me

[moneytalks]

hate myself for missing out on the P24A-E
anybody have a black medium to let go of at retail?
and maybe, just maybe, a J68-S black medium to sell as a bundle?

[kobebean]

Re: P24A-E fit, I believe it feels slimmer because the material makes the seat/thigh fabric drape down the back of the pant, whereas on the DS version it drapes down the outside of the thighs. Not sure if this is due to a change in how it's cut or the material. The fabric itself seems stiffer than DS so you'd think it'd make the pants look looser. I'm probably not wording this well but hopefully it makes sense. P24A-E waist is smaller than my P24A-DS, but the latter were prob stretched out. 

I happen to like this version much more than P24A-DS. Silhouette works for me, and I prefer the non-reinforced hem despite not planning on using the cinch. As thatslapz said, the cargos are more functional and easier to zip one handed. Didn't like E on p10 and p30a, it suits looser pants much better because they don't need stretch and benefit from more structure. 

Edited December 12, 2021 by kobebean

[dreamboatjustsoul]

11 hours ago, moneytalks said:

hate myself for missing out on the P24A-E
anybody have a black medium to let go of at retail?
and maybe, just maybe, a J68-S black medium to sell as a bundle?

wearing my ds and ws version, the goat, good luck man

[ukiro]

P24A-E arrived but no spec sheet, somehow. As I hoped/guessed, E seems like a great material for this model alhough I missed out on DS so leaving that comparison for the more fortunate. FWIW, 185 cm at normal proportions and size L seems like ideal length, if you're 190+ I think you might want XL or these will look weird. If you're sub 180 but very stocky, be aware that this is not as generous of a waist as many other Acronym pants. I can also second (or third?) the comment that cargo zippers are easy to operate one-handed, almost magically so. Buttoned smaller front pockets/pouches require quite the tug but can very easily be closed one handed, and perhaps they give a little with time.

I hope the lack of stretch won't mean these tear in the groin, as they're clearly not cut for doing head kicks in.

[moneytalks]

1 hour ago, dreamboatjustsoul said:

wearing my ds and ws version, the goat, good luck man

y u gotta do me like this

i do much prefer the stotz , because of where i'll be using it most. 
already have p24a-ds, would much prefer an E

[msoldano]

Yo! Was wondering if anyone had some time to form some thoughts about the P38-AD? 

I love how it doesn't have those cargo side pockets like the DS version does -- looks cleaner. And it would be nice to not have to wear a base layer

 

[HK007]

On 12/10/2021 at 4:22 PM, msoldano said:

Yo! Was wondering if anyone had some time to form some thoughts about the P38-AD? 

I love how it doesn't have those cargo side pockets like the DS version does -- looks cleaner. And it would be nice to not have to wear a base layer

Just signed up after seeing this post, have to promote these pants.
P38-AD is awesome. The insulation liner is super comfy, I didn't have the chance to get a P38-DS so I don't know the difference that much besides the side pockets. I have been wearing it for two weeks in November, with temperatures ranging from 5-15+ C, rarely feel hot indoors, never felt cold outdoors. I also noticed the inside-out wearing style reduces insulation level.

The insulation "fur" isn't dense, but it's fluffy, so you won't feel it being compressed and released when pressing on it. No itch feeling either, the fur lies pretty flat.

The pockets ain't interconnected, there is one set of pockets for each side. There's also no belt loop for the reverse fur side, so you are pretty much solely relying on the adjustable drawcord, ain't that comfortable to have those between the pants and waist I'm gonna say...

I was debating whether I should get the AD or wait until I have a chance for the DS, but after getting this I only wish for another AD pant, it's way too good and I don't want to take it off for cold seasons! 

[msoldano]

22 hours ago, HK007 said:

P38-AD is awesome. The insulation liner is super comfy, I didn't have the chance to get a P38-DS so I don't know the difference that much besides the side pockets. I have been wearing it for two weeks in November, with temperatures ranging from 5-15+ C, rarely feel hot indoors, never felt cold outdoors. I also noticed the inside-out wearing style reduces insulation level.

Ahhh that's so awesome you signed up just to respond to me! I really appreciate that. I might want to pull the trigger on a pair bc of this

[roofus]

On 12/10/2021 at 3:38 PM, HK007 said:

Just signed up after seeing this post, have to promote these pants.
P38-AD is awesome. The insulation liner is super comfy, I didn't have the chance to get a P38-DS so I don't know the difference that much besides the side pockets. I have been wearing it for two weeks in November, with temperatures ranging from 5-15+ C, rarely feel hot indoors, never felt cold outdoors. I also noticed the inside-out wearing style reduces insulation level.

The insulation "fur" isn't dense, but it's fluffy, so you won't feel it being compressed and released when pressing on it. No itch feeling either, the fur lies pretty flat.

The pockets ain't interconnected, there is one set of pockets for each side. There's also no belt loop for the reverse fur side, so you are pretty much solely relying on the adjustable drawcord, ain't that comfortable to have those between the pants and waist I'm gonna say...

I was debating whether I should get the AD or wait until I have a chance for the DS, but after getting this I only wish for another AD pant, it's way too good and I don't want to take it off for cold seasons! 

I like the P38-AD as well. The insulation is just right. They keep me warm when walking the dog, but I don't get overheated when coming inside, and I don't have to change to un-insulated trousers.

[zxcvbnnn]

J99 came in. The wide fit is a welcome change from the other slimmer insulators - pretty sure I could fit two of me in here. Incredibly versatile too. It can take on several silhouettes depending on how you close it, and it looks good over everything from a tee and cargos to suiting. Definitely the choice for static warmth in the cold. And the welt pockets are cavernous - no issues fitting a 1L nalgene. 

[hentaiyarou69]

J1W up on mothersite