SUPERDENIM SMALL QUESTIONS THREAD (Use instead of making new threads)

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[halberdklown]

so im now considering getting those one wash 0500's from Pirates, my waist is around 34.25 inches or so with 25inch thighs, and im considering getting their size 33. according to his measurments, it has a 80 cm waist

and 63cm upper thigh. I know it seems crazy, since that makes the waist 31in (the thigh seems fine to me though), but anyone think i'll be able to stretch them accordingly? all their other measurments are excellent, and given that these stretch a lot im hopeful they are ideal? any insight would be appreciated

[edmond]

you know what id die to have leg twist

[edmond]

i have a big question to anyone who can answer

i own a fob factory f098xx they are unsanforized .

after like 2 boiling soaks the legs didnt twist at all it stayed in its place just like a sanforized denim is what could lead to this? can anyone explain?

[cash]

^ Leg twist is achieved almost entirely by chance. Leg twist occurs when the leg of an unsanforized (or sanforized is some cases) denim is stitched up such that the twill on the back is "out of alignment" with the twill on the front. When shrinkage occurs the fabric reduces such that the seam moves around the leg and voila twists. This was historically viewed as an undesirable feature, so manufactures took measures to ensure that twills were properly aligned. SO, not sure about your jeans, but I would assume that by design or luck of the draw your jeans are properly (or improperly as the case may be) aligned to prevent twisting. I think Mizanation's thread about the gentleman in Okinawa making jeans delves into this further. I'd be interested if any manufactures are engineering specifically for leg twist.

[Paul T]

^I'd be interested if any manufactures are engineering specifically for leg twist.

Yes they are. Kaihara has made denim that is Sanforized - ie won't shrink - but which has leg twist programmed in. It was used on LVC Japan a year or two ago. The idea was to have no shrinkage, so they could launder and distress the jeans without the wear moving, and to keep an authentic leg twist.

And thanks for that good explanation, I shall have to look out Miza's thread.

[Logikal Retro]

Stupid noob question. Be forewarned.

So I recently picked up the UO "Tapered" model and like them quite a bit.

My only complaint is that from the leg opening up until about halfway up the calf is a little wider than I'd like. The stacking is basically a little wide IMO.

The leg opening is fine. Not too small or big and the length is fine.

I'm planning on bringing them to a tailor but is there a way they can just taper that specific area without shrinking the leg opening?

I don't know if y'all understand what I'm trying to get at but I basically need to know how to get them tapered without messing up the selvedge line or anything else on them. I've only worn them a few times and would like to get this done before stacks and anything else become permanent.

Any/all help is appreciated, thanks!

[not_a_virus.exe]

i'm looking for a pair of jeans.

criteria:

* straight-leg

* clean styling

* same kind of dark, intense wash as the pair below

* dark blue or dark gray (NOT BLACK)

* tone-on-tone stitching

* doesn't have back pockets as front pockets like the pair below

[ThrusH]

I'm on my sixth day of my N&F WG and noticed that I'm developing a butt-crease. Is there anything I can do to effectively minimize this? My gut feeling is that it has to do with the large amount of stacking going on.

[SayWhat]

i've been wearing my nudie jeans for 3 months almost everyday, no soaks and no washes so far. If i want to clean my jeans, should i do a soak or dry clean?

Thanks

[Gaijin]

i've been wearing my nudie jeans for 3 months almost everyday, no soaks and no washes so far. If i want to clean my jeans, should i do a soak or dry clean?

Thanks

Always had good luck with a little woolite in a bathtub soak. Soak for 30 min to an hour and then change the water once or twice for a rinse.

[Gaijin]

Oh yeah, and hang dry

[tigerformula]

How much do 660s stretch? I bought a almost new pair and they are very very tight in the thigh, ass, and hips.

[coleslawyum]

Quite a lot, but after washing all the starch out. Is it a one-wash?

[chantheman]

How much do 660s stretch? I bought a almost new pair and they are very very tight in the thigh, ass, and hips.

should get a couple inches in the waist if you wanted to. they have some give after some wear

[myironeyes]

not sure if this question had being posted here before. Anyway I had being wearing my nudie for around 4 months. can i give it a soak as it start to smell a little?

[Hendodo]

^^ yes, you can give them a soak. its not going to hurt them or anything...

[GoodSamaritan]

How much does TFH 3XXX denim stretch in the thighs?

[rnrswitch]

Anyone order from superdenim.co.uk that lives in the States? I got my tracking number from them on Saturday and when I track it through Royal mail (Airmail) it just says that it was received and is being processed for delivery abroad. Is this normal? And how long does it typically take from UK to the states for Airmail?

Damn I feel like a complainer. Dejan at cultizm sets the bar too high. I feel like after I order the goods they should be in my hands in 3 days.

[rnrswitch]

^ Leg twist is achieved almost entirely by chance. Leg twist occurs when the leg of an unsanforized (or sanforized is some cases) denim is stitched up such that the twill on the back is "out of alignment" with the twill on the front. When shrinkage occurs the fabric reduces such that the seam moves around the leg and voila twists. This was historically viewed as an undesirable feature, so manufactures took measures to ensure that twills were properly aligned. SO, not sure about your jeans, but I would assume that by design or luck of the draw your jeans are properly (or improperly as the case may be) aligned to prevent twisting. I think Mizanation's thread about the gentleman in Okinawa making jeans delves into this further. I'd be interested if any manufactures are engineering specifically for leg twist.

This sounds like a good explanation, but I was under the impression that this has nothing to do with twills on front and back being "aligned" or "mis-aligned" and more with the shrinkage and shape of the twill (IE RHT or LHT.) Fabrics (cotton mostly) tend to shrink (and inversely stretch) on the bias (ie not vertical or horizontal, but diagonal) this leads to RHT yielding a certain twist and LHT yielding the opposite effect. As fabric shrinks it moves in the path of least resistance, mainly along the bias. For twills, 2x1, 3x1, etc. a 3x1 will have more "twist" or distortion, because it has more tension in the vertical (warp) yarns than in the horizontal (weft) yarns causing it to constrict diagonally. For 1x1 weaves such as chambray, one doesn't need to worry about this because the tension is equal in both directions.

One possible explanation for demonito's jeans that don't have twist would be that the weave is really dense and the warp yarns tension was proportionally equal to the weft yarn's tension, upon other possible factors.

Not completely sure of this but it seems correct in my head.

[rnrswitch]

BTW I sound like a fucking geek! I am probably just talking out my ass.

[Paul T]

I think you're right. Leg twist is complicated and diffuclt to explain, which is why in my book I quoted an expert rather than paraphrasing. AS he put it, I recall, when it shrinks it tends to follow the twill direction.

Now I sound like a geek and am talking out of my ass.

[halberdklown]

so im now considering getting those one wash 0500's from Pirates, my waist is around 34.25 inches or so with 25inch thighs, and im considering getting their size 33. according to his measurments, it has a 80 cm waist

and 63cm upper thigh. I know it seems crazy, since that makes the waist 31in (the thigh seems fine to me though), but anyone think i'll be able to stretch them accordingly? all their other measurments are excellent, and given that these stretch a lot im hopeful they are ideal? any insight would be appreciated

[gonegonegone]

^ sorry if this has been asked before, but why do you get the one wash version? the pirates will just throw the raw version in the washer, so you could as well get the raw one and do that yourself.

[Paul T]

Anyone order from superdenim.co.uk that lives in the States? I got my tracking number from them on Saturday and when I track it through Royal mail (Airmail) it just says that it was received and is being processed for delivery abroad. Is this normal? And how long does it typically take from UK to the states for Airmail?

Damn I feel like a complainer. Dejan at cultizm sets the bar too high. I feel like after I order the goods they should be in my hands in 3 days.

The Royal Mail site can be slow to update. If it's Airsure, they normally get it on a plane within 24 hours, INternational Signed for can take an extra day. It's probably on a jumbo jet now and will come up as in the US by tomorrow. THen you're reliant on USPS....

[Gaijin]

Anyone order from superdenim.co.uk that lives in the States? I got my tracking number from them on Saturday and when I track it through Royal mail (Airmail) it just says that it was received and is being processed for delivery abroad. Is this normal? And how long does it typically take from UK to the states for Airmail?

Damn I feel like a complainer. Dejan at cultizm sets the bar too high. I feel like after I order the goods they should be in my hands in 3 days.

I just got airmail from flathead.co.uk to las vegas. Took 7 days from the time I got my shipping conformation. It was a long 7 days!

[cash]

One possible explanation for demonito's jeans that don't have twist would be that the weave is really dense and the warp yarns tension was proportionally equal to the weft yarn's tension, upon other possible factors.

Not completely sure of this but it seems correct in my head.

Thanks, I think your explanation is the correct one. I had bad intel. Now, however, I have about 30 questions regarding weaving.

[cash]

Here is a link about a patent that combats leg twist. Some good geeky stuff. Be sure to read the Description tab for explanations of why leg twist occurs.

[darthm4rk]

has anyone experimented fading gray denim?

[halberdklown]

^ sorry if this has been asked before, but why do you get the one wash version? the pirates will just throw the raw version in the washer, so you could as well get the raw one and do that yourself.

i dont have a washer readily available, and soaks dont cut it, so id need to go to the local laundromat and wait for management to leave before i decide to "dye" their machine indigo

and plus, they seem to get all the shrinkage out of the way, and i can just get them hemmed from the get go and now have to do any guess work with how much i should take off before it shrinks. They do use detergent though so i dont know if that will affect anything, but doesnt seem like a bad choice if you ask me....