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Pretty cool up there where you live @Double 0 Soul.

my next door neighbors, which is a skatestore were ordered to take the sneakers down from the lines.

and my mother in law, she used to have a gallery in the center, painted her building purple, was ordered to paint to a color the city okeed. And a few months later decorated the street with colorful umbrellas. No own actins allowed

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I still buy CDs (and occasionally magazines) from Rakuten shops.. they're a 1/4 of the price of eBay or Discogs but the cost of shipping eliminates any financial gain i might make.. so i just leave them with the proxy service until i buy bike bits or whatevs and add them to th package up to the cost of £135, that way i can avoid UK border charges.

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6 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Who remembers which brand uses denim from Okamoto Mills?!

ChatGPT: Japan Blue Jeans and Momotaro Jeans, part of the Japan Blue Group, use denim from Okamoto Mills, while the retailer Okayama Denim offers Japanese selvedge denim products that may also be made with fabrics from this manufacturer.

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Yeah, trusting blindly ChatpGPT is always risky.

Here is a little game: I asked ChatGPT to write me an intrudiction and history of Denime. Please find the mistakes ;)

A Detailed History of Denime

Denime is a pioneering Japanese denim brand that has been instrumental in shaping the country’s reputation for producing high-quality, vintage-inspired jeans. Founded in 1988 by Yoshiyuki Hayashi, Denime was part of the legendary Osaka Five—a group of five influential Japanese denim brands that sought to revive the craftsmanship and authenticity of classic American denim. Alongside Studio D’Artisan, Evisu, Fullcount, and Warehouse, Denime played a crucial role in the Japanese denim revival movement, which was driven by a deep appreciation for mid-century American workwear and traditional denim production methods.

The Early Years & the Pursuit of Authenticity

Yoshiyuki Hayashi was passionate about vintage denim, particularly the jeans produced by Levi’s in the 1940s and 1950s. Inspired by their durability, texture, and natural fading characteristics, he sought to create jeans that faithfully replicated those iconic garments.

Denime’s approach to denim was methodical and precise—the brand sourced high-quality cotton, used vintage shuttle looms to weave selvedge denim, and employed natural dyeing techniques to achieve a rich, authentic indigo hue. Unlike modern mass-produced denim, Denime’s jeans were built to age gracefully, developing a unique patina with wear that mirrored the evolution of true vintage jeans.

Denime quickly became one of the most respected names in Japanese denim, admired by collectors and enthusiasts worldwide for its meticulous construction and dedication to the original spirit of American workwear.

Change in Ownership & the Evolution of the Brand

In the early 2000s, Denime underwent a significant transformation when Hayashi left the company. The brand was eventually acquired by Shins Co. Ltd., leading to some changes in production methods and design philosophy. While the core identity of Denime remained, many denim enthusiasts noted subtle differences in fabric and fit compared to the original models.

In 2018, Denime was revived under the management of Warehouse & Co., another highly respected brand from the Osaka Five. This shift was welcomed by denim purists, as Warehouse & Co. is known for its deep commitment to historical accuracy and craftsmanship. Under this new leadership, Denime returned to its roots, restoring the original fits, fabric textures, and vintage fading characteristics that made it a beloved brand in the first place.

Denime Today: A Legacy of Craftsmanship

Today, Denime continues to be a cornerstone of the Japanese denim industry, producing jeans that remain true to the spirit of classic American denim. Its core lineup includes models inspired by Levi’s 501 cuts from the 1940s, 50s, and 60s, with carefully reproduced details such as hidden rivets, chain-stitched hems, and hand-finished distressing.

For denim enthusiasts, a pair of Denime jeans represents more than just clothing—it’s a tribute to heritage, craftsmanship, and the enduring appeal of well-made workwear. As Japanese denim continues to be revered worldwide, Denime stands as a testament to the meticulous artistry that defines the country’s approach to jeans-making.

Would you like details on specific Denime models or how it compares to other Japanese denim brands?

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2 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Yeah, trusting blindly ChatpGPT is always risky.

Here is a little game: I asked ChatGPT to write me an intrudiction and history of Denime. Please find the mistakes ;)

A Detailed History of Denime

Denime is a pioneering Japanese denim brand that has been instrumental in shaping the country’s reputation for producing high-quality, vintage-inspired jeans. Founded in 1988 by Yoshiyuki Hayashi, Denime was part of the legendary Osaka Five—a group of five influential Japanese denim brands that sought to revive the craftsmanship and authenticity of classic American denim. Alongside Studio D’Artisan, Evisu, Fullcount, and Warehouse, Denime played a crucial role in the Japanese denim revival movement, which was driven by a deep appreciation for mid-century American workwear and traditional denim production methods.

The Early Years & the Pursuit of Authenticity

Yoshiyuki Hayashi was passionate about vintage denim, particularly the jeans produced by Levi’s in the 1940s and 1950s. Inspired by their durability, texture, and natural fading characteristics, he sought to create jeans that faithfully replicated those iconic garments.

Denime’s approach to denim was methodical and precise—the brand sourced high-quality cotton, used vintage shuttle looms to weave selvedge denim, and employed natural dyeing techniques to achieve a rich, authentic indigo hue. Unlike modern mass-produced denim, Denime’s jeans were built to age gracefully, developing a unique patina with wear that mirrored the evolution of true vintage jeans.

Denime quickly became one of the most respected names in Japanese denim, admired by collectors and enthusiasts worldwide for its meticulous construction and dedication to the original spirit of American workwear.

Change in Ownership & the Evolution of the Brand

In the early 2000s, Denime underwent a significant transformation when Hayashi left the company. The brand was eventually acquired by Shins Co. Ltd., leading to some changes in production methods and design philosophy. While the core identity of Denime remained, many denim enthusiasts noted subtle differences in fabric and fit compared to the original models.

In 2018, Denime was revived under the management of Warehouse & Co., another highly respected brand from the Osaka Five. This shift was welcomed by denim purists, as Warehouse & Co. is known for its deep commitment to historical accuracy and craftsmanship. Under this new leadership, Denime returned to its roots, restoring the original fits, fabric textures, and vintage fading characteristics that made it a beloved brand in the first place.

Denime Today: A Legacy of Craftsmanship

Today, Denime continues to be a cornerstone of the Japanese denim industry, producing jeans that remain true to the spirit of classic American denim. Its core lineup includes models inspired by Levi’s 501 cuts from the 1940s, 50s, and 60s, with carefully reproduced details such as hidden rivets, chain-stitched hems, and hand-finished distressing.

For denim enthusiasts, a pair of Denime jeans represents more than just clothing—it’s a tribute to heritage, craftsmanship, and the enduring appeal of well-made workwear. As Japanese denim continues to be revered worldwide, Denime stands as a testament to the meticulous artistry that defines the country’s approach to jeans-making.

Would you like details on specific Denime models or how it compares to other Japanese denim brands?

I noticed that ChatGPT often simply lies. For example, I asked it to provide the full text of a poem based on the first line, and it immediately gave me the entire text—but completely made up on the spot. At the same time, ChapGPT is developing very quickly and does some things exceptionally well, such as working with provided ready texts, etc.

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12 minutes ago, Maynard Friedman said:

It’s funny how AI means natural when it comes to indigo dye but artificial when it comes to intelligence.

That’s the main reason I never wear any natural indigo jeans anymore—half of my job these days is using Artificial Intelligence to build Atomic Interferometers, and I just don’t think I could stand another layer of disambiguation

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I was telling the boy about pre decimalised currency yesterday “before 1971 and long before I was born there was 240 pence to the pound.. but even when I was a kid we still had 1/2 pence so half of 1p” 

“I’ve got some old money in my toolbox at work, I’ll bring you a 1/2p coin home”

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When I gave it to him, he said “oh I thought it would look like a 1p cut in half.. sort of half moon shaped? “

:D

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Right. I remember when I got a threepenny piece pocket money. Then it went up to a sixpence. I don't remember it getting higher than that in old money so I suppose that's when decimalization came in...

I got into collecting the old money. My favourite coin was the huge 'cartwheel tuppence.

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1 hour ago, Maynard Friedman said:

It’s funny how AI means natural when it comes to indigo dye but artificial when it comes to intelligence.

It’s actually just the Japanese word for indigo. 

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8 hours ago, CSL said:

Right. I remember when I got a threepenny piece pocket money. Then it went up to a sixpence. I don't remember it getting higher than that in old money so I suppose that's when decimalization came in...

 

That's what started the conversation Carl.. i walked into the kitchen and i heard him say "there's no such thing as a 3p mum" idk?.. so i said "there used to be.. it's what folks called the thrupenny bit, before i was born" he asked if there was any coins in circulation when i was a kid that no longer are..

Just the 1/2p .. Oh, and a £1 coin used to be a green banknote :D

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Right, Neal. It was the three pound notes you had to be careful of...
And those one arm bandits that took our parents' sixpences.

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I saw these and couldn't help but chuckle.

Weird Guy - Super Heavyweight 40oz Selvedge | Naked & Famous Denim – Tate + Yoko

Take a look at the patch (30 oz of cowhide):

Naked and shop famous patch

The owner gave them a ringing endorsement: "Naked & Famous Denim Owner, Brandon Svarc, likes to joke 'Guaranteed uncomfortable or your money back.'"

They are also perversely shrink-to-fit with only the loosest of shrinkage estimates and in a slim tapered cut which feels like a recipe for fit disaster, especially at $2000.

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