Shoes that look better with age...

[erk]

yeah, they do look pretty similar. got any natural light pics? 

funny how much distressed smooth looks like brown smooth after some obenauf's. wish i could keep my natural midsole that light looking in the front but it gets so dirty at work.

 

[Iron Horse]

Ed, are the engineers a one-time thing, or will they be available later?

[mikecch]

I'm pretty sure my farmer ranchers were purchased after the change in owner ship and i have no issues with them. Also my brother has a pair and they look fine. that doesnt help much seeing as how you want them shorter and in horsehide.

Thanks for the feedback though.

I guess the question for me from here on would be White's vs Nick's for American boots and Oxfords.

Still want a pair of Rolling Dub Trio though.

Also curious as to what Ed thinks about his Mexican engineer sample boots.

[Capsicum Fried Meat]

Plus, any other Last options for Ed's engineer?

[edmond]

Yes sir other options possible

[edmond]

Engineers are made to order so anytime you want

[mikecch]

OK, theoretically speaking...if we were to do a forum group buy, what would we like?

 

American-style oxford? Service boot? Engineers?

 

What type of horsehide - CXL? Veg tan natural? Shinki?

 

Just brain-storming here, nothing material yet.

 

Edit: Consider Ed's engineer's first. What I'm planning might only materialise next year.

Edited August 10, 2016 by mikecch

[karanimal]

I'd want a black horse butt engineer, pretty much similar to eddies engineer boot, depending how his turns out. Preferably with a black horse butt leather that would wear to a brown tint underneath the black dye, hopefully a shinki horse or maybe guidi if possible. Guidi horse seems amazing to me 

[mikecch]

^ Yeah, let's see how Ed's pair turns out.

I would want to know all the little details though - who makes the boots, where did the leather come from, etc.

 

I've been thinking about a pair of shoes/boots made of vegetable tanned, natural colour horse, 6 to 7 oz. Yum.

Edited August 10, 2016 by mikecch

[Aries]

I'd be well up for that Mike.

[mikecch]

^

Will keep you in mind Aries!

After that failed William Lennon horsehide boot project a few years back, I realised more ground work needed to be done very much in advance.

Also, last time everybody wanted something different...in general that just wouldn't work, and defeats the purpose of a project.

I guess we are all particular about our clothes.

[edmond]

I can do a natural hh in veg tanned but would not recommend it cause it would look funky but watever floats your boat

[Iron Horse]

After seeing a pair of Wesco natural veg tan (steer hide) engineers in person I think they look, but were very squeaky.

[mikecch]

I can do a natural hh in veg tanned but would not recommend it cause it would look funky but watever floats your boat

 

Ed, I'm a little confused...are you doing a project, or are you starting your own brand?

 

May I ask who is making the boots, and which tanneries do the leathers come from?

[Rob060]

yeah, they do look pretty similar. got any natural light pics? 

[BrownMetallic]

Finally found a rack for my BOR [boots On Rotation]:

The Lineup: from top left

• Viberg Moctoe Chukka - DIY BrownLicorice Bison, SD on Chrystys

• Viberg EbonyLatigo, Captoes, SD on Dainite

• Viberg X Styleforum "Hopper" TobaccoChamois, SD on 700 X CatsPaw

• Tricker's Grasmere BlackScotchgrain, Faux Captoes, Commando

• Viberg BlackPitTanned Bison, SD on Dainite

• Viberg LodenGreen, Captoes, SD on Commando

• Viberg DerbyShoe MarineTanLatigo, Flat GYW on Dainite

• Tricker's Malton C-ShadeGorse, Commando

• Tricker's X Styleforum Allan TeakCordovan Captoes, BrickRed Dainite

Lasts:

Edited August 11, 2016 by BrownMetallic

[mlwdp]

Well this is interesting.

Came across this company out of Texas called BECK. Even though they MTO cowboy boots, they also have their own MTO work boots:

More options and choices on their site. Handmade and Goodyear welts:

http://beckboots.com/collections/beck-lace-up-boots/products/lace-up-3

http://beckboots.com

Edited August 12, 2016 by mlwdp

[mikecch]

Very nice collection BM! How do you find the pit tanned bison leather? Any different from Horween's bison?

 

On another note...

Theoretically speaking, if we could do a Sufu shoe/boot, which leather would be more interesting?

Horsebutt? Or, Kangaroo?

 

I can get some special vegetable tanned Kangaroo made, extra heavy at 1.3 to 1.5 mm - stronger than horsehide, and finer grain & much thicker than the kangaroo used by the big brands (RM Williams, Viberg, etc).

Premium grade Kangaroo usually max 1.1 mm btw.

 

Horsebutt is just horsebutt, like everyone elses' horsebutt - maybe interesting colours like tan or navy.

[alvin_cheong]

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[edmond]

Jeezz

[alvin_cheong]

Jeezz

 

  Sorry...

[mikecch]

Alvin, are you after a resole or a rebuild?

What is the construction of the boot? Goodyear? McKay stitch-down? Blake? Other?

Where do you live (options differ)?

[alvin_cheong]

Resole, my Alden tanker in commando sole thought of going for a resole.

Currently station in China.

[mikecch]

^ Have no idea about cobblers in China. But basically you'll want a cobbler or a factory that can replace a Goodyear welt.

If you want guaranteed quality and are willing to spend a bit more, send them to Japan.

If not, go to your local upmarket men's shoe store - e.g. somewhere that stocks John Lobb, etc - and ask them who they use for servicing.

[Iron Horse]

Or, you can send them to Dr. Sole here in Taiwan. 

[mikecch]

^ Oops, forgot. My home country too. How could I.

[alvin_cheong]

No reply from Lin....I have asked him on his recommendation.

[Iron Horse]

How long ago did you ask, Alvin? I know sometimes he gets a lot of work and doesn't always check online stuff.

[alvin_cheong]

Last Friday and today send him with another mail. I'm still waiting pateintly for him though.

[volvo240thebest]

I have some dr sole composite soles on my Nomads and they feel and look absolutely fantastic, dunno how they'd look on the Tankers but it's worth to ask..