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40 minutes ago, Jeef1 said:

I got a size 44 flannel direct from Warehouse. It has a promising 25” pit to pit pre-wash. 
 

It did come with the new catalog. 

please post measurements post wash!

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On 1/29/2025 at 4:54 AM, winteracr said:

Would anyone know what Warehouse's widest/straightest cut is? 

Recently picked up some 1001XX-25 from Signet looking for a true straight and am quite disappointed in the cut 😕 It's very roomy in the top block and tapers quite aggressively...

The banner denim is lovely in person though

This is interesting, as I have the 1001XX-25 and honestly didn't really note much taper at all - the cut is intended to be a more 50's leaning interpretation.

Importantly though, mine are hemmed to 27" or so, so the extent of the taper may be reduced!

As others have said, their widest cuts recently have been the DSB 1953 & 54's I would say. Unsure about pre-war models etc as I'm less interested in that stuff. Their Greenbaum waist overalls are fairly capacious, I think.

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On 1/29/2025 at 7:16 PM, willi said:

please post measurements post wash!

After a cold wash and hang dry, chest is 24”.  Not sure if I’m keeping this. Arms are on the narrow side.  It’s the “salmon and navy” color way with the chin strap. If someone is interested send me a pm for more info. (I’ll send you the catalog too if you buy the flannel)

17 hours ago, Alec Leamas said:

Bingo!

What's in there jeans wise?!

More of the same. DSB 1936, 1941, 1942, 1947, 1953, 1954 & DD 1944, 1946, 1947

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Hello, does anyone know if the Dead Stock Blue fabric from Warehouse (model 47) is rope dyed? I’ve read that the rope dyeing process results in a better fade. Does anyone have information about this? And an example of a fade on a DSB 47?

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9 minutes ago, CharlieMike said:

Hello, does anyone know if the Dead Stock Blue fabric from Warehouse (model 47) is rope dyed? I’ve read that the rope dyeing process results in a better fade. Does anyone have information about this? And an example of a fade on a DSB 47?

If I understand correctly, I believe all of Warehouse's fabrics are rope dyed, and in fact most repro denim makers no?

3 hours ago, Jeef1 said:

More of the same. DSB 1936, 1941, 1942, 1947, 1953, 1954 & DD 1944, 1946, 1947

 Ahh okay, thank you for the info. Glad to see it looks like they might re-run the full gamut of DSB, always wanted to grab the 53's, and also the DD 1946's!

But, what I was excited about was potentially grabbing a glimpse of the 30th anniversary stuff!

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6 hours ago, Jeef1 said:

More of the same. DSB 1936, 1941, 1942, 1947, 1953, 1954 & DD 1944, 1946, 1947

Interesting.
Is the 41 the same as the Hinoya 75th year anniversary, i.e. reversed yoke?

And the 42 with the denim pocket bags and the crotch rivet?

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4 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

Interesting.
Is the 41 the same as the Hinoya 75th year anniversary, i.e. reversed yoke?

And the 42 with the denim pocket bags and the crotch rivet?

Seconded!

@CharlieMike Is the 41 DSB the same as the supposedly Hinoya exclusive 1941 model do you know denim-wise?

And l take it the 1942 is a WW2 model and not the 1942 buckleback?

Cheers

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2 hours ago, Dr_Heech said:

Seconded!

@CharlieMike Is the 41 DSB the same as the supposedly Hinoya exclusive 1941 model do you know, denim wise?

And l take it the 1942 is a WW2 model,not the 1942 buckleback?

Cheers

I imagine the 42 will be another release of these: https://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=165486617

There was also a run of them back in autumn some time, I think!

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2 hours ago, Dr_Heech said:

And l take it the 1942 is a WW2 model,not the 1942 buckleback?

If you or anyone else is in the market for a 1942 buckle back, Kato-san from Rockets told me that he can customize his models to cover the entire period from 1937-1942

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10 hours ago, Jeef1 said:

After a cold wash and hang dry, chest is 24”.  Not sure if I’m keeping this. Arms are on the narrow side.  It’s the “salmon and navy” color way with the chin strap. If someone is interested send me a pm for more info. (I’ll send you the catalog too if you buy the flannel)

Thanks, would you mind sharing the shoulder measurement? Chin strap models are narrow in the arms relative to the 3104 flannels.

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29 minutes ago, yung_flynn said:

If you or anyone else is in the market for a 1942 buckle back, Kato-san from Rockets told me that he can customize his models to cover the entire period from 1937-1942

Thanks. I don't mind his wartime S501XX type repros but his buckleback models aren't as well researched imo.

Also what love about Warehouse in particular is that you can unpick the arcs so they can look more like true repros.

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8 hours ago, Alec Leamas said:

If I understand correctly, I believe all of Warehouse's fabrics are rope dyed, and in fact most repro denim makers no?

 Ahh okay, thank you for the info. Glad to see it looks like they might re-run the full gamut of DSB, always wanted to grab the 53's, and also the DD 1946's!

But, what I was excited about was potentially grabbing a glimpse of the 30th anniversary stuff!

What size are you? I have a pair of tag size 36" DD-1946 that still have more than enough inseam length for you. They are 17" across the waist. They're one washed but I've never washed them - so for sure more shrinkage is viable They're already small for the label size.

My mum is coming to visit me in April and can definitely take a pair of jeans back with her and post them to you? Just want them to go to someone who appreciates. Yours for the grand price of a tenner donated to Battersea.

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5 hours ago, jkbrwn said:

What size are you? I have a pair of tag size 36" DD-1946 that still have more than enough inseam length for you. They are 17" across the waist. They're one washed but I've never washed them - so for sure more shrinkage is viable They're already small for the label size.

My mum is coming to visit me in April and can definitely take a pair of jeans back with her and post them to you? Just want them to go to someone who appreciates. Yours for the grand price of a tenner donated to Battersea.

Mate - this is insanely good. Why not. Let's do it.

Thank you!

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I got this chinstrap WH flannel (top shirt in photos) with the Duck Digger tag from @willi late last year and it’s been one of my favorite shirts for this winter along with my Cushman sweatshirt. 
 

That made me a little curious about the real (non-repro) deal. I ended up picking up a vintage Frostproof flannel from the 70s? after going down a rabbit hole. Some of the details are a little different (no chinstrap, no side gusset - I think WH pulls from Five Brothers, Braveman, Frostproof, etc) but the overall color palette and pattern, fabric heft, and hand feel remind me a lot of the Warehouse repros. These Frostproof flannels are actually relatively plentiful, inexpensive (this one was leas than $50 shipped), and MiUSA with 100% cotton and long sleeves (a rarity for vintage shirts in my experience). 

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The back and forth about the catalogue the other day got me thinking about the war models Warehouse have released in the past…and I came across a couple of crumb trails online - seems like there was a recent run of DD-1944, I found odd sizes left on Cultizm and they were still listed but out of stock on Union (in Japan)…

I’ve also spotted on mercari a couple of raw pairs of S1003XX, without the flannel pocket bags of the DD-1944 version.

A quick search on here though for S1003XX returns nothing at all really, apart from the new ish 1942 DSB model.

Does anyone have either of the older war models? Either the DD flannel bags one or the other? I assume both are in some variation of the banner denim, but I’m not sure.

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11 minutes ago, Alec Leamas said:

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seems like there was a recent run of DD-1944, I found odd sizes left on Cultizm and they were still listed but out of stock on Union (in Japan)…

I’ve also spotted on mercari a couple of raw pairs of S1003XX, without the flannel pocket bags of the DD-1944 version.

A quick search on here though for S1003XX returns nothing at all really, apart from the new ish 1942 DSB model.

Does anyone have either of the older war models? Either the DD flannel bags one or the other? I assume both are in some variation of the banner denim, but I’m not sure.

The 1942 model came out like two or three years ago. It was reissued half a year ago or so.
Both the 1942 model and the DD 1944 model are the WWII denim:6.7番×6.6番 14.5oz.
Also the recent Hinoya 75th anniversary model (1003HXX-DSB) is in that denim.
As well as the the 25 year anniversary S1001XX (1946).

I like it quite a lot. It's quite sturdy and coarser.

The denim varieties are still quite confusing to me.
We know there is the banner denim (three state) (one DD 1947 a.o. in that) and the heavier XX memphis denim (like the 800XX and 900XX as well as the Lot 1001 Heavy Ounce).

And then there are two pink selvedge denim:
one a bit lighter 7.5x7.5 and one a bit heavier: the above mentioned 6.7x6.6.
It seems that they can come in DSB or not.

I think the war models are all in the heavier one.
Models like the Lot 1001XX(1000XX)【1954 MODEL】and the Lot 1001XX(1000XX)【1947MODEL】are in the lighter one.

Recently I read about a new denim.
And if I recall correctly there was also a orange selvedge denim ;D

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I don't not like DSB/their other denim but compared to Banner, there's no contest IMO. Maybe its more true to the respective era's or whatever whatever, but their other denim is nowhere near as comfortable or visually interesting as Banner is IMO. I ordered a Banner Type 1 from Bears last week because the 'new' denim used in my five month old 2002XX Early 1960's Paper Tag jacket has not gotten as comfortable as I was hoping it would and I've worn it a lot.... I think I've come to the conclusion that I am only going to buy Banner jeans/jackets from WH going forwards....

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@indigoeagle this is super useful thank you! I'm very keen on the flannel pocket bags DD-1944 and if luck is on my side there'll be a re-issue, according to the catalogue anyway!

11 minutes ago, jkbrwn said:

I don't not like DSB/their other denim but compared to Banner, there's no contest IMO. 

I fully agree. While I do like the DSB range, it doesn't come close to Banner!

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I'm less of a Warehouse expert than some, but out of all the different fabrics I've worn over 15+ years of denim nerdery the Banner denim is a serious contender for my absolute favorite. The 14.5 oz on my 800xx is a nice denim too but it sort of feels and looks like a medium-weight version of Samurai's Kiwami denim from the S710xx. The Banner denim has some extra dimension of texture and depth of color to it that really captures the spirit of vintage denim, and it's just great for daily wear here in the southern US where it's quite hot for much of the year.

For that matter, I like the Banner denim way more than the Full Count denim from the 1108s I wore for several years. I'm eager to see if the new TCB WWII denim on my Late S40s jeans ends up on the same level as the Banner.

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I find in the colder weather here in Northern Europe around 0C I prefer the slightly heavier WWII denim.
When it gets a bit warmer the Banner denim is perhaps a bit more comfortable to wear.

What is interesting is, that the denim and the DSB seem to be two different parts.
For instance the 1942 pair is of the WWII denim and with the DSB, while the 1944 pair seems to be the same denim but is not advertised as DSB.
They look a bit differently with the non-DSB being a bit darker, which makes sense since the DSB is supposed to reflect some oxidisation from many decades of storage.

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It seems many brands have at least these two different types:
Like FC their normal and the XX. FWs the standard denim (51 and 47 (with different dyeing) and the WWII one (plus the 1937 one) and Jelado the White Tag Last Resort (more 50s, blueish, softer) and Black Tag Last Resort (40s, a bit heavier and coarser) among others.

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1 hour ago, winteracr said:

i found and translated this from this video and it's the single most useful thing i've found to help me navigate the world of 1001xx lol

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Thank you for sharing the video! Looking forward to watching it.

Regards the craving for a war model I had…successfully bid on a raw pair of S1003XX. Cannot find any details online about them, to the extent that I may contact Warehouse themselves and ask about them. 

When they arrive (might be a while, it was a proxy bid that won) I’ll share some details. Patch looks to be similar to the standard 1001XX patch (i.e. not the mega soft deerskin found on DSB). All yellow stitching, rivet-less coin pocket, normal unbleached cotton pocket bags, no arcuates, red tab. Beyond that I can’t tell you much.

The one clue I did note was that the Warehouse logo on the inner waistband tag was in blue text, which, I think, makes it a few years old at least - I’m fairly certain most newer tags are in red, black or green. I can’t be certain though.

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