Sugar Cane Denim

[Mtvare]

This may be doing no more than repeating your own observations, but I concluded after a lot of research (photos, online comments, measurements,  etc.) that 42 would be right for me,  and I'm the same weight as you but about 5cm shorter.

[ATWM]

I’m not sure if the cut is the same, but I used to own the blanket lined type 2. It was long in the body and in the sleeves and generally fit about a size larger than my typical tag for Japanese brands. Which is to say I took a size 38 compared to my more typical 40. For me a perfect jacket is often a 40 in the chest but with a slightly shorter body length, or a 38 with a truly open or boxy top half at least.

In my blanket lined jacket I found the shoulders and chest only very slightly more trim. It was comfortable but in general just not a great fit. I sold it because the cut didn’t work in that I would have preferred a 36 in terms of length and sleeves but it would have been too slim otherwise. I also owned the corduroy, flannel lined type 2 in a size 38 which was shorter in the body and sleeves and the fit was spot on - that may have been more in line with their normal 1953 pattern. 

Worth noting that Mister Freedom jackets in a size 38 I find to fit me well top to bottom. 

Closest I can get for useful information, but all that’s to say I’d probably err on 42 to start…

[conqueror]

thanks - i might get a 42, but make sure i go with someone that has a good exchange policy.

[bod]

[PBTony]

6 months with these SC 66s

 

Edited April 19 by PrettyBoyTony

[indigoeagle]

Re Super Collectibles:

I have the 45 and 46 ones. I had a look at the denim yesterday and they basically look the same.

 

For the 46 it says on the SugarCane website: "The denim fabric has a slightly bluish and milder appearance compared to the 1943 model, but it maintains a rugged texture unlike later versions. "

So, clearly the 43 one is different.

Anyone else who has both or even three or more, any opinion on the denim difference of the 45 and 46?

[indigoeagle]

7 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

Re Super Collectibles:

I have the 45 and 46 ones. I had a look at the denim yesterday and they basically look the same.

 

For the 46 it says on the SugarCane website: "The denim fabric has a slightly bluish and milder appearance compared to the 1943 model, but it maintains a rugged texture unlike later versions. "

So, clearly the 43 one is different.

Anyone else who has both or even three or more, any opinion on the denim difference of the 45 and 46?

A bit difficult to capture with a mobile camera.
Here the 46 looks indeed a bit more blueish and the 45 a bit darker. But in reality they look and feel very similar.

 

Edited April 21 by indigoeagle

[indigoeagle]

Since they were close by I added the Orslow 105XX.
As a 50s repro they are more of royal blue and with a bit lighter and from the wash softer denim (similar to the TCB 50s or the Freewheelers 1951s).

 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I found the weft on the 45 denim much rougher and neppier than the 46 denim.

[Lorcan]

Yeah 1945 has different weft, it’s more beige in tone as well. There is a bit more detail on the differences in the Clutch YouTube video for 1945 I think 

[Alec Leamas]

Anyone picking up the USA made "40's special" this weekend?

I like the look of them but at that price it's a definite no.

https://store.toyo-enterprise.co.jp/shopdetail/000000003387/

[Broark]

Price seems a bit high, but that’s what happens when you ship materials back and forth across the Pacific.
Also I think these are made using the same (or a similar) denim as the ‘43 pair. The pocket fabric looks nice, but honestly I wish they had repro’d the leather jacket that they got the flannel from. Looked like a nice one in the catalog.

[Alec Leamas]

Yeah, I totally understand why the price is as high as it is - it just completely prices me out at that point!

You're right though the air miles on these will be crazy by the time a consumer in the US gets hold of a pair!

[julian-wolf]

“a bit”

[Maynard Friedman]

Completely f*#king extortionate is more accurate.

[ATWM]

whatever the logic of the pricing, I'm glad to not be interested. 

[Broark]

Somewhat unsurprisingly the bigger price tag didn't seem to scare off buyers.
Most shops I've seen that posted stock today have since sold out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[JohnM]

Interesting that SC priced these new jeans even higher than other Super Denim Collectibles that were already on the high side.  Is there anything especially different or unique about this latest pair, other than the anniversary association?

[indigoeagle]

On 4/21/2026 at 9:42 PM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

I found the weft on the 45 denim much rougher and neppier than the 46 denim.

 

On 4/23/2026 at 3:35 PM, Lorcan said:

Yeah 1945 has different weft, it’s more beige in tone as well. There is a bit more detail on the differences in the Clutch YouTube video for 1945 I think 

You're both right. I checked the denim again and as you had said, the 45 is rougher, neppier, more little "knots" in the threads and the weft is more beige. 
Also I found this time the 45 denim to be darker than the 46.

The 46 is generally supposed to have the features of the 47, but still the rougher denim of the war time. Still that denim is already less rough than that from the previous years.
What we regard as interesting fabric was during the war time something that had to be accepted as time and materials were scarce, but with the war ending more attention could be spent to make the fabric "higher quality" which eventually led to the rather uniform non-selvedge fabrics of the projectile looms. Of course efficiency and cost advantages were also a big factor in that development.

 

[nick682]

Does anyone know of a shop with the 46 in a size 32 or possibly 33 in stock? I'm assuming they're long gone 

 

I just realized these were released like 2 years... So there little to no chance I'm finding these.

Edited April 26 by nick682

[ATWM]

4 hours ago, JohnM said:

Interesting that SC priced these new jeans even higher than other Super Denim Collectibles that were already on the high side.  Is there anything especially different or unique about this latest pair, other than the anniversary association?

I mean, sometimes some of us do enjoy paying a little more for authentically inferior construction… 😃 

[MJF9]

8 hours ago, nick682 said:

Does anyone know of a shop with the 46 in a size 32 or possibly 33 in stock? I'm assuming they're long gone 

 

I just realized these were released like 2 years... So there little to no chance I'm finding these.

You might find a pair on eBay or JP auction.

Quick search on eBay SCSC S1945 but pricey at $700

[Double 0 Soul]

Maybe too quick.. he's looking for the 46 not the 45

No 32 or 33 listed at the mo.. it's either

Size 31

https://zenmarket.jp/en/rakutenproduct.aspx?itemCode=realmoon%3A10004459

Size 34

https://zenmarket.jp/en/auction.aspx?itemCode=j1181755870

Just keep an eye out.. they're not impossible to find, i'm sure one will crop up in a month or two.

 

[MJF9]

^ I know Neal 🙄.  It was to illustrate SCSC's are about and can be found with some searching.  

... your link to size 34, in a pair I don't have, has just triggered my buy-instincts 😄 

Edited April 26 by MJF9

[Double 0 Soul]

Oh! .. in that case there are 11 pairs of 45s listed on Yahoo

..also 8 pairs of Okinawa's .. another pair of jeans he wasn't looking for

 

Edited April 26 by Double 0 Soul

[MJF9]

... now you're searching, are any SCSC 46 jackets in size 46 or 48 (asking for a friend)? 😉

[Double 0 Soul]

There is a size 50

Give me a sec.. i'll have a butchers

edit- nope, just the size 50 with a few size 38s and 40s

Edited April 26 by Double 0 Soul

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Not the 1946 but the 1945 for a rather normal price in size 33:

https://www.denimio.com/de_DE/SC49001.html?acgid=sugar-cane

[l13902733261]

Just got the super duper special super denim collectibles #50 in ow34.

Will post the measurements and fit soon.

[conqueror]

On 4/4/2026 at 9:17 PM, conqueror said:

thanks - i might get a 42, but make sure i go with someone that has a good exchange policy.

i ended up getting a 42 and it thankfully fits well for my build + how i want to wear it (over a tee or light LS shirt). 44 would have been too long on the arms for sure. thanks for the advice.