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Um, label says £70....

4. Ice Cube - but lyric makes it too easy!

I don't mind the rise in terms of looks. It's fine if you don't tuck things in, which I don't most of the time. But now that the waist has got a little loose, when they slip down lots of material gets bunched up around the crotch, which is annoying. And for some reason I can't get a belt to keep jeans that high up on my waist.

That's why just measuring your waist and getting the corresponding size doesn't always work.

Thanks @Facini !

Really enjoying the fit of both jeans and jacket now. Temperatures are just right for jacket over t-shirt at the moment as well.

Sunshine was pretty dazzling in Sheffield today eh?

I'm in!

Thanks @julian-wolf Think I'd need to eke out another half-inch of stretch at least to make them work...

The 50s jacket thing is great news, since the current one is both too narrow for my chest and too long for my taste.

Yeah those look really good @julian-wolf Would you mind measuring the front rise on the 34? That's probably the size for me too I think, but whether the waist will fit depends on the rise.

#16 reporting back in... I exchanged the 33 raw contest versions for a new batch 34OW. Soooooo much better. Waist was extremely tight at first (measured at 32") but eased up within a few hours to a comfortable snug fit. The rise is huge, but these fit way better than other jeans I have with high rises (LVC '44 and Edwin Nashville) because they're not too loose through the rest of the top block. Here's a couple of poor quality fit pics, with and without the jacket. Maybe an 18-month contest will encourage me to learn to use a smartphone camera properly. But I've had five years to do that before now, so maybe not.

Finally got notification that my replacement jeans and jacket are on the way! Sized up from 42 to 44 on jacket and 33 raw to 34 OW on the jeans. Jacket should be fine, but 34 jeans are still going to be a bit dicey because the thigh is so slim. But with the high rise and the stretch, I would have been swimming in the waist within two weeks with the 36s.

I'd say if you're a 34 in most brands you won't be more than a 34 in TCB. I'm usually a 34 or 35 (although I don't have any of the brands you mention), and I wear 33 in 50s. That's accounting for stretch, of which there is a lot. 60s I couldn't say because the rise is too low for me.

Well they seem to be all the shop cos my 33 raw are 82 in the waist before soak.