Shoes that look better with age...

[mpukas]

On 2/7/2022 at 4:29 PM, mpukas said:

incoming...  fingers crossed they fit and I like them... update may follow... 

I ordered and received a pair of JL Black Cats M-43 from S&S. Unfortunately, they do not fit. Far too narrow. I thought they'd be a bit wider than they are, being made on the Munson last. I have JL Devil's Causeway engineer boots in 9 1/2, and they fit well. Just a little narrow in width and little long in length. 

As of February 01 2022, S&S changed their return policy. They no longer offer refunds, only exchanges and store credit. I'm working on an exchange with them. 

In the meantime, if anyone is interested in purchasing them, DM me. 

Edited February 14, 2022 by mpukas

[hurhur]

First wear!

[tod]

I’m tempted to try a pair of Lofgren combat boots, but have never tried them on.  Can anyone compare sizing to RDT Coupen boots? Thanks.

[Broark]

1 hour ago, tod said:

I’m tempted to try a pair of Lofgren combat boots, but have never tried them on.  Can anyone compare sizing to RDT Coupen boots? Thanks.

I have both in size 12, the Coupens are a little wider/longer by comparison.
I personally prefer the fit of the Combat Boots on my feet, my Coupens are a tad big.

[Duke Mantee]

I’m a JP27 in RDT and 9.5 in Lofgren … I find the RDT to be a more narrow, but both are comfortable 

[mpukas]

3 hours ago, tod said:

I’m tempted to try a pair of Lofgren combat boots, but have never tried them on.  Can anyone compare sizing to RDT Coupen boots? Thanks.

I was just about to ask the same question re: Lofgren Combat Boots, LOL! 

As I mentioned in a post above, I have JL engineer's in 9.5 and they fit well. According to JL, these are a D width on his 110 last and the combat boots are an E width on his 120 last. JL M-43 on the D width Munson last are far too narrow for me. The Combat Boots and Donkey Punchers are both built on his 120 last, so they should fit similarly (I do not have DP's).  

I was able to secure a pair of the horsebutt combat boots in exchanging the black cats. I opted to a 9.0, hoping that the wider last would suite me better without being too long. 

FWIW, in my experience, S&S sizing recommendations for JL and Viberg does not work for me. I need to go TTS at a 9.0, or even size up to 9.5. 

Edited February 19, 2022 by mpukas

[Duke Mantee]

@Geeman and I exchanged views previously about Grenson … I’m not a fan of all they do (but Geeman isn’t wrong); however their G-One collection is a really high standard,  especially their Shoe <number> range bringing back genuine early to mid 20th century designs which is superlative:

 

Edited February 21, 2022 by Duke Mantee

[Maynard Friedman]

I can see you in that basket weave pair Duke.

[Duke Mantee]

Used to have a similar pair in my twenties … or was that in the twenties? Can’t quite remember now …

Edited February 22, 2022 by Duke Mantee

[mlwdp]

Anybody here familiar with Wheelrobe?  How’s their sizing?  Seen their offerings on Hinoya.

[MJF9]

14 hours ago, Duke Mantee said:

Used to have a similar pair in my twenties … or was that in the twenties? Can’t quite remember now …

In your twenties in the twenties maybe 

[hurhur]

Caught in the rain. Water spots galore on these shinki’s. 

[oomslokop]

the lattice shadows give the impression yr shoes have been embossed with lv logos! flame lv! 

Edited February 25, 2022 by oomslokop

[mlwdp]

Are attractions engineer boots true to size?  I wear a size 7 but wear size 6 in Wesco boots.  Was measured at size 7.

[Duke Mantee]

9 minutes ago, mlwdp said:

Are attractions engineer boots true to size?  I wear a size 7 but wear size 6 in Wesco boots.  Was measured at size 7.

I keep quoting this guy … but Jamie at East West Apparel  is the most helpful guy never mind the fact he actually gives you detailed comparisons on his website for a good range of brands

Attractions Biltbuck Lot 707

[sensy]

3 hours ago, Duke Mantee said:

I keep quoting this guy … but Jamie at East West Apparel  is the most helpful guy never mind the fact he actually gives you detailed comparisons on his website for a good range of brands

Attractions Biltbuck Lot 707

I've been looking at a pair of Attractions from them also, but they're unfamiliar with Wesco sizing and it's what I'm most comfortable with, so I have mostly the same question as @mlwdp

[Duke Mantee]

3 hours ago, sensy said:

I've been looking at a pair of Attractions from them also, but they're unfamiliar with Wesco sizing and it's what I'm most comfortable with, so I have mostly the same question as @mlwdp

Are Wesco the only footwear you own?

I’ve found Wesco to be close to White’s, but in honesty if you are looking for a high level of precision then you’ll need the last details and the measurements of the foot of the person who is giving their opinion on the matter - that’s a challenge

Edited February 28, 2022 by Duke Mantee

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

On 2/14/2022 at 1:50 PM, mpukas said:

I ordered and received a pair of JL Black Cats M-43 from S&S. Unfortunately, they do not fit. Far too narrow. I thought they'd be a bit wider than they are, being made on the Munson last. I have JL Devil's Causeway engineer boots in 9 1/2, and they fit well. Just a little narrow in width and little long in length. 

As of February 01 2022, S&S changed their return policy. They no longer offer refunds, only exchanges and store credit. I'm working on an exchange with them. 

In the meantime, if anyone is interested in purchasing them, DM me. 

Just slightly too large for me. Oh well.

I rarely return things, but being able to is really one of the only benefits left from ordering from a US b+m store - as opposed to getting it cheaper from Japan (or wherever), as you often can. So, that's a bummer - I guess I likely won't be ordering from them as I am not a fan of getting something else other than what I was aiming for - that's just forced consumption - which seems to really go against their whole marketing ethos. 

[Duke Mantee]

I don’t know if it’s too controversial to ask whether what looks to be 3rd/C Grade (or even Utility Grade) leather should be marketed as wabi-sabi?

[chicote]

Some early wear on my flat head engineers - cheomexcel scratches up real easy I’m realizing, lol. This is pretty much just from riding my bike around and a couple tire-kickin roadside repairs on my truck, otherwise I’ve been pretty sedentary. I don’t like how the left toe is creasing but feel like there’s not much i can do about it - hopefully it smooths out a bit in the future. About a month of real wear so far & no cleaning or maintenance.

 

 

As an aside, anyone using any new leather conditioners they’re into? I’m about done with my bottle of saphir and looking to try something new.

 

[mlwdp]

I posted about a German conditioner and cleaner but no one said anything about it.

[Signet]

fox cxl leather i suggest dont put too much stuff innit. 

maybe just brush it and some cream if your bothered with the scuffs.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Arrived yesterday after a few weeks waiting time.

[Duke Mantee]

[Smallrod]

2 hours ago, Duke Mantee said:

More info Duke?

[Signet]

[Duke Mantee]

3 hours ago, Smallrod said:

More info Duke?

Grenson Shoe No.3 (£480) v. Clinch Graham Boots (£1200)

[mlwdp]

@chicoteWhat did you decide to use?  I used Saphir on my Black Chromexcel engineer Boss boot and it took the scratches off of my from riding. Made them look new.

[chicote]

@mlwdp Well, i spilled a little used oil on them on accident and kinda rubbed that in lol… my budget black shoe cream. I’ll prolly get some saphir for when I decide to treat them like the 900 dollar pair of boots they are 

[smoothsailor]

Cinch brass Tokio service shoes, on can last. 6 yrs of wear. Some yrs more than other