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On 4/16/2018 at 10:45 PM, meccaNIZM said:

Curious what the F1-T is...

From a Nomadshop article:

 

N: What makes Shadow Project different from Stone Island’s mainline?

E: It has a different function. The reason it’s called Shadow is because it’s a by-product of the mainline. You can’t have Shadow without the mainline. Shadow’s purpose… Carlo calls it his Formula-1 team.

 

Too much of a leap to think the F1-T may be an in-joke referring to a SISP tee? 

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2 hours ago, junkie_dolphin said:

How does this work?

Sadly Hypebeast forum is closed and I can’t seem to access/find my thread. I had much more concise instruction. 

Heres the original instruction i based it from

http://trueler.com/2010/11/24/self-clear-shipment-cbsa-avoid-ups-brokerage-fee/

My experience was from US retailer to Canada

good luck

Edited by JoseRizal

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1 hour ago, JoseRizal said:

Sadly Hypebeast forum is closed and I can’t seem to access/find my thread. I had much more concise instruction. 

didn't know HB forums closed!?. that's actually a shock. not many left. 

 

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Curious of the earnest opinions of the recent price hikes from the long standing die hard fans out there. For what it's worth I see it as a move to protect ACRs ability to -accurately- proclaim their wares as artworks as much as they are outstanding products. Be very interested to hear how this has impacted the consumer opinion (Ive never been able to afford it myself to begin with).

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2 hours ago, the-intern said:

Curious of the earnest opinions of the recent price hikes from the long standing die hard fans out there. For what it's worth I see it as a move to protect ACRs ability to -accurately- proclaim their wares as artworks as much as they are outstanding products. Be very interested to hear how this has impacted the consumer opinion (Ive never been able to afford it myself to begin with).

According to Errolson (via instagram), prices have gone up because every aspect of manufacture has gotten more expensive. He has expressed dismay at this, going so far as to acknowledge that prices are indeed insane. I'm not in a position to judge, really—I just don't know enough about the economics of it. For what it's worth, Acronym refuses to move production to China, so that could be a serious factor. Veilance prices are certainly lower, but Veilance isn't quite as complicated as Acronym... and a lot of it is now made in China. People who have been paying attention will also notice that Veilance patterns have become less complicated over time.

It's depressing because Acronym's aesthetic lineage is deeply rooted in the counter-cultural... and yet, these days, it's mostly rich Chinese kids wearing it. It's doubly depressing because there really isn't anyone stepping up to fill the void, from a design perspective; I mean, there are certainly lots of knock-offs, brands trying to emulate the aesthetic... but how many are following the design process and taking time to think about problems in the way that Acronym does? Acronym has opened my eyes to a whole way of thinking through the design process—it is, in a very subtle way, didactic. That's good design. I'm just not seeing that from 99% of the technical clothing being produced today.

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It definitely seems that he hands that fed for so long have been bitten, right off, at the elbow. 

I suspect we'll see alot more counterfeiting now too.

Shame as I don't think the audience has moved away, but now the wealthier hypekids can pay to get to the front of the queue, "if your name's not on the list, you're not coming in" the club can only accommodate a limited number of attendees now.

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Surely they’ll chew this up and spit it out like other fads (I don’t see it having the longer term appeal of regular streetwear for a lot of people) and it’ll just be a load of highly priced stuff sitting on acrnm.com in a year or less...

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There has to be someone that knows someone who knows someone in that Czech factory. Use your resources sufu and get intel for us.  We can even crowdfund the fee for said verified intel.

or

Take E’s word.  What would he gain from lying? 

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Coming from someone who owns more ACR than they should, it makes me appreciate the pieces I already own.  No need for a jacket with a green shoulder, a volt colorway, or high contrast patterns at x3 the cost. Yes, it seems like people are paying more to be seen in something, which never was the point for me. I liked @Timdots point, of I don't want to be noticed wearing it, or notice other people wearing it.

But, if one of these new things tickles me, then sure let me shell out for it, and buy less throughout the year. I don't think the point of ACR was to get a new shell every season. Sure, they're hiking prices to match the resellers market, you would too and if you say otherwise you're lying to yourself. 

Sure, it sucks for someone new to ACR, but if you're part of the old guard you could afford it then, you can afford it now, it'll just hurt a little more.

 

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It's certainly a moot point about buying less throughout the year, I found that goes for everything now, I only get what I love for the long term, lagom my friends lagom...

Edited by TEKsevenZERO

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I already pointed out few stats about the czech factory/situation (no real inside man tho):

-we are at historic lowest unemployment rate, companies are spending money for hiring campaigns

-I kinda blame fucking supermarket chain that their insane salary hike is affecting small businesses. They are offering something like 1300usd/monthly for easy behind the counter, less stress job. Ads for seamstresses are around 930usd/monthly and the job can be really stressful, behind the counter noone is going to deduct money when your seam is not really straight on 90eur/meter fabric.

-Sumperk is relatively small town (27000 inhabitants), there is no school educating tailors/seamstresses there. However there are both Tilak and Acronym having factories there, how many people who can sew/pattern/seamseal can be found in such a small town in the middle of nowhere?

I can see how this situation creates a lack of employees which creates a lack of product and less product and similar bills to pay means you have to rise the price per unit. What I do not see (and I bet there is a reason for that), is why the ACRONYM production is not moved 80km to south to Prostejov, which was the town of sewing factories and probably even potential emplyees.

I myself talked to few seamstresses whom told me they are going to do insurance from home rather then sew, because money and stress.

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14 hours ago, superfuture said:

didn't know HB forums closed!?. that's actually a shock. not many left. 

 

You might be one of the last forum standing!  

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^ good info up there Dani. I for one will only be able to appreciate it from far ala window shopping. Good luck to all the ones that have bread for it. I’m sure it is still worth it.  

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I noticed, if i wasn't mistaken, that this seasons pieces were made in Switzerland. Have they moved production there from Czechoslovakia?

Also on a separate point it seems like drops will be smaller and monthly from now on, I saw a EH comment reproduced on the Fb forum.

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Czechoslovakia ended before Acronym started :angry: 

I always thought that Made in Switzerland refers to the fabric. Move to switzerland would explain the price hike but it would make no sense. Acronym GmbH/Dynamics is still comapny based in EU, while switzerland is not, that would mean (apart from higher salaries) import duties to DE/CZ and VAT.

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8 minutes ago, undercover73 said:

Also on a separate point it seems like drops will be smaller and monthly from now on, I saw a EH comment reproduced on the Fb forum.

He tweeted this as well but im pretty sure thats just his plan for SS18. In the fall when he stocks at brick and mortar shops I don't see how he would be able to do a slow roll out like this. 

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so , regarding the drop times, does that mean we have to wait till next month for the next drop and how many drops will there actually be?

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12 hours ago, the-intern said:

Curious of the earnest opinions of the recent price hikes from the long standing die hard fans out there. For what it's worth I see it as a move to protect ACRs ability to -accurately- proclaim their wares as artworks as much as they are outstanding products. Be very interested to hear how this has impacted the consumer opinion (Ive never been able to afford it myself to begin with).

Honestly? It's probably priced me out. IIRC my J5-A and E-J4TS (the first two things I bought) were about $700 each. The J62-PB I bought last year from Acronym was just over €1,000. Now prices have increased by another 50% in a few months? 

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I would not mind the price hike if it was on new items but how can I justify 1200EUR P10-S when I paid way less for P10A-CH. Yeah I am probably priced out, but I kinda do not mind since there was hardly anything interesting this year, and I am not anyway a huge ACRONYM spender.  

J1A-GTPL in volt? NO THANK YOU

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5 hours ago, Flipflop214 said:

There has to be someone that knows someone who knows someone in that Czech factory. Use your resources sufu and get intel for us.  We can even crowdfund the fee for said verified intel.

or

Take E’s word.  What would he gain from lying? 

let's put it like this: the most expensive pant the tilak brand  puts out is a €400 gore-tex pant. The average tilak pant is 150ish. Whatever it is, it's definitely not labor cost making the acr pants four to ten times as expensive.

 

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13 minutes ago, danii said:

J1A-GTPL in volt? NO THANK YOU

according to the website (p10-s details) the volt j1 is GTV. happy its not paclite... but... whats GTV? 

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So regarding ss18.... This ss18 drop is only available at Acronym official website?

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Just now, paper2k1 said:

So regarding ss18.... This ss18 drop is only available at Acronym official website?

And Grailed

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5 minutes ago, Inkinsurgent said:

let's put it like this: the most expensive pant the tilak brand  puts out is a €400 gore-tex pant. The average tilak pant is 150ish. Whatever it is, it's definitely not labor cost making the acr pants four to ten times as expensive.

 

It makes me want to scream every time I read someone rehashing the stupid, economic illiterate BS that paying a living wage is responsible for the 2x+ price hikes seen in the last 2 years (or ACR price in general). Voronoi or Apparat are very similar construction wise (I assume the input and labor requirement are similar to a P10s), yet they sell for 35-40% of the the newly released p10s. 

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i don't understand the need for such a transparent argument in the first place. "make hay while the sun shines" would work for me. 

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