Yeah - especially when we know that the raw material is a fraction of the total price. with respect to bags - i love my nomin, and i love my mission workshop bags (have 2). I bike as my primary mode of transportation and haul a bunch of shit, so whatever i carry needs to function well. the bagjack/acr ones feel overpriced for what you get (especially when you factor in attachments), and frankly, aren't very comfortable. With Arctery'x, you get repairs, and mission workshop has a _lifetime warranty_. Anyways, will stop shilling other brands in the ACR thread, haha.