Conners Sewing Factory

[MJF9]

Ha nice one mate... I've worn it a lot these past 18 months in particular - all day on many days... and I even did a bit of training in it until I realised it added extra weight and my little lad was whupping me on runs!!  I'm sure the fact it fits like a shirt on me helps... in fact it's faded better than my jeans

[Dr_Heech]

53 minutes ago, Flash said:

How do you even get that type of wear on a jacket ??????? Looks awesome mate 

Dremel's are fairly cheap 

[Flash]

Changing the tab was definitely a big improvement on the early conners imo , the rayon was way too thick and the wrong shade of red 

 

[Dr_Heech]

^Hey, at least you got one. That's more than poor old @dudewuttheheck got on his last pair!

[dudewuttheheck]

8 hours ago, Dr_Heech said:

^Hey, at least you got one. That's more than poor old @dudewuttheheck got on his last pair!

Haha indeed! I've debated asking him to send me one just so I can try to get it on somehow. 

[Dr_Heech]

4 hours ago, dudewuttheheck said:

Haha indeed! I've debated asking him to send me one just so I can try to get it on somehow. 

I would've demanded one as soon as l noticed the mistake. That's alot of money to pay for an unfinished product .

[julian-wolf]

^ Yep, & better ask him to tidy up some of that sloppy stitch work while you’re at it

[dudewuttheheck]

3 hours ago, Dr_Heech said:

I would've demanded one as soon as l noticed the mistake. That's alot of money to pay for an unfinished product .

It's more about me being the least handy person in the universe and not trusting myself to put it on.

[Dr_Heech]

10 minutes ago, dudewuttheheck said:

It's more about me being the least handy person in the universe and not trusting myself to put it on.

Surely you should be able to get a local tailor or seamstress to do it for you?

[dudewuttheheck]

10 minutes ago, Dr_Heech said:

Surely you should be able to get a local tailor or seamstress to do it for you?

Already got a reply from him saying he will send it. Now to find someone to do a decent job of it.

Edited August 21, 2021 by dudewuttheheck

[dudewuttheheck]

Does anyone have any advice on the best method to attach it as subtly as possible?

[Foxy2]

Subtly is difficult as the pocket top stitching is done in a contrast colour…

Partial re-stitching could end up popping out visually and mismatched sewing yarn colours are another issue.

Ask for some sewing thread as well!

An alternative would be to press the seam allowance over and then top-stitch the  flag label as close to the back pocket fabric as possible. This will require a one-sided presser foot for the sewing machine.

[dudewuttheheck]

7 hours ago, Foxy2 said:

Subtly is difficult as the pocket top stitching is done in a contrast colour…

Partial re-stitching could end up popping out visually and mismatched sewing yarn colours are another issue.

Ask for some sewing thread as well!

An alternative would be to press the seam allowance over and then top-stitch the  flag label as close to the back pocket fabric as possible. This will require a one-sided presser foot for the sewing machine.

Good call thanks! I asked for thread as well. That's part of the issue. I can't think of a way to make this happen easily. 

I was wondering if it would be possible to undo some the the stitching on the pocket and then just match the stitching holes by hand with the same thread if he sends it to me. That's what the guy who shortened the sleeves on my leather jackets did. He had to go in through the front of each jacket and he match the stitching so well by hand I could barely tell the difference. 

Edited August 22, 2021 by dudewuttheheck

[Foxy2]

@dudewuttheheck

Personally, I would undo the outer top-stitching seam and cut down the seam allowance of the new flag label to fit.

just be careful around the rivets/hidden rivets as the construction in that area often requires bar tacks and folding over with the pocket patch fabric cut very close to the edges.

[shredwin_206]

@dudewuttheheck can you ship them back to have him sew it on? 

[Maynard Friedman]

That’s nuts, just think of the carbon footprint of that, although sending a red tab and thread will have a small footprint of its own. In any case, if you sew it on yourself (or get someone locally competent to do it), it’ll add to the wabi-sabi and complement the other perfectly imperfect features.

Edited August 22, 2021 by Maynard Friedman

[Thanks_M8]

^this!

[julian-wolf]

^ Seriously—it’s wild how much thought is being put into attaching it non-invasively; if they’d noticed this in the Levi’s factory the conditions of which we’re going so far to try and replicate, they’d’ve just stuck it on with another row of stitching and moved to the next pair

You’re spending hundreds of bucks to get a pair of jeans that tries to replicate the style of construction bred by mid-century factory conditions, false mistakes and all, and when an actual realistic mistake pops up your first inclination is to fix it and make it perfect? Just buy a pair of Cane’s or Warehouse

[Broark]

Or, leave them as they were originally made and just wear them.  Sheesh.

[dudewuttheheck]

5 hours ago, julian-wolf said:

^ Seriously—it’s wild how much thought is being put into attaching it non-invasively; if they’d noticed this in the Levi’s factory the conditions of which we’re going so far to try and replicate, they’d’ve just stuck it on with another row of stitching and moved to the next pair

You’re spending hundreds of bucks to get a pair of jeans that tries to replicate the style of construction bred by mid-century factory conditions, false mistakes and all, and when an actual realistic mistake pops up your first inclination is to fix it and make it perfect? Just buy a pair of Cane’s or Warehouse

 

5 hours ago, Broark said:

Or, leave them as they were originally made and just wear them.  Sheesh.

I mean, this was my initial inclination if you look at my initial post. I'm just letting myself get influenced when people say it's a glaring mistake. 

I've just  been wearing them. I'd like the tab if he can send it to me, but no I'm not going to send them back to him. 

When he told me he "forgot" I just laughed and figured it was appropriate for the jeans, making them a "one of one." 

I am genuinely curious about how to attach it though. Could be a fun thing for me to do if I can figure it out. I'm not handy at all though. It's an interesting thing for me to try to figure out.

Edited August 22, 2021 by dudewuttheheck

[mondo]

47 minutes ago, dudewuttheheck said:

I am genuinely curious about how to attach it though. Could be a fun thing for me to do if I can figure it out. I'm not handy at all though. It's an interesting thing for me to try to figure out.

If we can't ponder such things here – of all places – what's the point? Go, you good thing...  

[Broark]

Guess I missed the part where he said he forgot to put it on your pair, I’d be annoyed if I waited over a year for a pair of expensive jeans and he forgot a tab too. 
My statement was more in reply to the idea of sending them back to Japan just to have a tab attached. I’m sure some talented denim tailor like Rain at IndigoProof could do it pretty easily. 
Ive also seen people fix the included Resolute tab on their jeans, not entirely sure how they go about doing it. 

[dudewuttheheck]

2 minutes ago, Broark said:

Guess I missed the part where he said he forgot to put it on your pair, I’d be annoyed if I waited over a year for a pair of expensive jeans and he forgot a tab too. 
My statement was more in reply to the idea of sending them back to Japan just to have a tab attached. I’m sure some talented denim tailor like Rain at IndigoProof could do it pretty easily. 
Ive also seen people fix the included Resolute tab on their jeans, not entirely sure how they go about doing it. 

No worries. That was a huge post so I don't blame you.

Yeah I won't be sending them back. I'm sure Rain could do it as you suggest. The issue there would of course be the wait.

[silencejoe]

17 hours ago, dudewuttheheck said:

Good call thanks! I asked for thread as well. That's part of the issue. I can't think of a way to make this happen easily. 

I was wondering if it would be possible to undo some the the stitching on the pocket and then just match the stitching holes by hand with the same thread if he sends it to me. That's what the guy who shortened the sleeves on my leather jackets did. He had to go in through the front of each jacket and he match the stitching so well by hand I could barely tell the difference. 

If you not gonna sent it back i suggest you keep it as it is, as the stitching is part of the money you purchase csf product 

 

This is the 22501xx that i ask the local shop to resize, you can tell the difference

 

[dudewuttheheck]

37 minutes ago, silencejoe said:

If you not gonna sent it back i suggest you keep it as it is, as the stitching is part of the money you purchase csf product 

 

This is the 22501xx that i ask the local shop to resize, you can tell the difference

 

Yeah that is one of the things I would be worried about. 

[Foxy2]

Threads used in the industry are very specific and hard to come by - I would not expect a regular tailor to have these at hand. Matching them for colour is the next problem…

Top-stitching the back pocket can be tricky if you don’t have an industrial sewing machine, the right needle (and needle tip), the right presser foot (differential or one-sided) and a proper, good working transport (ideally needle transport) as there are quite a few additional fabric layers to penetrate around the rivets and you would want the stitch length to be even and match.

What helps in this specific case is that they are reproductions made with vintage equipment. Uneven stitch length might and wonky stitching might already be an original feature. A proper tailor might not understand that as something desirable and would want to improve that. I would definitely point that out to them beforehand.

Maybe a just undoing the minimum required length and live with the overlapping double stitching and back tacking is the safest, least destructive option?

Again, not inserting the flag label, but attaching directly onto the leg panel as close as possible to the back pocket edge is also an option. One could also mimic a label with a red embroidery - as SDA and others have done in the past on certain models (it also circumvents one of the legal aspects).

Take a good look at the specific back pocket and how the stitching has been executed and you should be able to make up your mind. Going with a dedicated denim repair specialists like Rain is certainly the safer option. There are other specialists (or used to be) in California as well.

Edited August 23, 2021 by Foxy2

[Duke Mantee]

1 hour ago, Foxy2 said:

Threads used in the industry are very specific and hard to come by - I would not expect a regular tailor to have these at hand. Matching them for colour is the next problem…

 

Again, not inserting the flag label, but attaching directly onto the leg panel as close as possible to the back pocket edge is also an option. One could also mimic a label with a red embroidery - as SDA and others have done in the past on certain models (it also circumvents one of the legal aspects).

I think this is the best least intrusive method

[Dr_Heech]

Alternatively, l've got an industrial staple-gun in my garage. Send them to me @dudewuttheheck and (Bosh!  Bosh!) .. I'll have it done in a jiffy  

Edited August 23, 2021 by Dr_Heech

[Foxy2]

2 hours ago, Dr_Heech said:

Alternatively, l've got an industrial staple-gun in my garage. Send them to me @dudewuttheheck and (Bosh!  Bosh!) .. I'll have it done in a jiffy  

Funny that you say that - back in the early 80’s (way before I started my tailoring apprenticeship) we started with an art class project glueing plastic sheets and bags together to make art/fashion/garments and photographing them on the streets. From there I went on to real fabrics stapling them together before I finally tried my hands at my mom's sewing machine.

What can I say - it was the 80’s, you were a punk, a popper, a waver or a new romantic - you wore it, it worked!

[youngofthesoonest]

If I’m understanding this discussion correctly, it seems like those jeans are completely ruined and unwearable. Send them my way and I’ll properly dispose of them for you.