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[bartlebyyphonics]

but to think of things of happy jeans futures

call me 'totally curious bartlebyyphonics': any answers to what this #tcb45 is all about?

any answers anyone? @Uncle Karl you wear this mystery pair well...

 

[i_denim]

Seems like an over reaction by Fullcount. I don't own any but I do love my TCB and the fact that I was able to talk to the owner, get them hemmed, get custom suspender buttons. I think TCB is an outstanding product and experience.

[nycsurfer530]

@bartlebyyphonics hmmm perhaps a post war pair?!? 

[Cucoo]

I, too, feel that while the law may be on FC's side, they don't have any moral high ground here since FC's whole business is centered on copying the Big E. Just a dick move and total overreaction.

[bartlebyyphonics]

On 6 May 2018 at 5:14 AM, nycsurfer530 said:

@bartlebyyphonics hmmm perhaps a post war pair?!? 

indeed; volvo was talking somewhere about a possible '47 (or at least desiring one) - a '45 is intrigue...

@Cucoo - total agreement

[volvo240thebest]

5 hours ago, bartlebyyphonics said:

indeed; volvo was talking somewhere about a possible '47 (or at least desiring one) - a '45 is intrigue...

I've chatted a few times with Inoue re a WW2 model, he told me he wanted to make it but had no original to copy.
the "tcb45" is indeed a WW2 model, but I guess it's more of a custom 50s pair with WW2 detailing rather than a true different WW2 cut. I've asked to Karl but the matter was too complicated to discuss through google translate...

[bartlebyyphonics]

1 hour ago, volvo240thebest said:

I've chatted a few times with Inoue re a WW2 model, he told me he wanted to make it but had no original to copy.
the "tcb45" is indeed a WW2 model, but I guess it's more of a custom 50s pair with WW2 detailing rather than a true different WW2 cut. I've asked to Karl but the matter was too complicated to discuss through google translate...

well: fingers crossed he finds an original; would love...

also open to a more saggy bottomed / high waisted 50s w. donut buttons and no coin pocket rivets...

[volvo240thebest]

more infos from Karl/Inoue

tcb 45 were made a few years ago, the model sold a total of 5 pairs....

they're not anymore in the tcb line up

they're not for sale. I'll try and see why and if they'll be sold again.

[bartlebyyphonics]

dear volvo; many thanks for sharing! a delight (of the possible and virtual potential)!
and sorry for cross thread conversation: but your tcb three piece suit shared in the 20s thread is also a delight (of the actual, the embodied and the sartorial-combinatorial dimension)!

[Darkthrone]

Got my TCB 50s hemmed. Managed to find a local guy who made the job on a vintage Union Special for a great price.  

Fit pics soon.

[volvo240thebest]

looks nicely done! where did you find the hemming service? Where are you from? I'm always on the hunt for places in Europe to try out.

[Darkthrone]

@volvo240thebest Thanks, Volvo! I'm from Ukraine. The guy who made hemming from Kyiv. His instagram page - www.instagram.com/headges.ukraine

After checking his instagram found the detail of jeans he made for my wife

 

[Darkthrone]

Double post

Edited May 16, 2018 by Darkthrone

[oomslokop]

chainstitch looks extra neat, narrow fold and narrow seam allowance (?) – whatever you call the thinner side next to the stitch –  so pretty!, but there doesn't seem to be any tug/early roping on the hem. some will come with washes though, i suppose, keep us updated.

[Darkthrone]

@oomslokop unfortunately jeans was washed before hemming. I lost beautiful roping on the original hem, but I hope I will have some with additional washes. 

[Maio]

My 50s jacket was finally shipped today from Denimio, took them over 10 days to ship my order. I hope that a 46 raw is gonna fit me well and looking forward to trying it on! Will update with fitpics as soon as I get it

[engine]

On 17.04.2018 at 10:51 PM, Paul T said:

@beautiful_FrEaK has the 710 and @engine has the 711?

I sold my 711 without having a fade on them.

[Maynard Friedman]

I’ve started wearing my 30s jacket recently (thanks again Foxy) now that the weather is warmer and it seems lighter than the stated 12.5oz denim. I’m not complaining, this is a good thing as far as I’m concerned as it was bought as a summer jacket (I have a heavier Eternal Type 2 for cooler months). It feels like no more than 10-11oz denim to me. Does anyone else have a view on this?  

[Hendsch]

TCB 50's roping, sadly not a Inoue job but SELA did an amazing job.

[volvo240thebest]

5 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

I’ve started wearing my 30s jacket recently (thanks again Foxy) now that the weather is warmer and it seems lighter than the stated 12.5oz denim. I’m not complaining, this is a good thing as far as I’m concerned as it was bought as a summer jacket (I have a heavier Eternal Type 2 for cooler months). It feels like no more than 10-11oz denim to me. Does anyone else have a view on this?  

it's light! it's the same fabric as the 20s so 12 oz iirc. a bit too light for all year around wear, the 50s jacket is better for that purpose. Great jacket though. I'm wearing everyday now, while it's still possible.

[bartlebyyphonics]

talking of my experience in this area-ish-ness: 

lightest: lvc '37 jeans (c.10/11oz)

medium: tcb20s (c.12oz) - feeling a little heavy for all summer wear, and pretty chilly without layers in winter...

heaviest: lvc '36 type I jacket (not sure of weight, but around 14-ish oz it feels like: quite chunky, feels heavy for summer)

[Maynard Friedman]

Yaaaassss!

The TCB website states that the jacket is 12.5oz denim (I assume that is raw), so mentally I’m comparing it to the lighter weight jeans I have (all weights stated as raw):

- LVC 1915 - 9oz

- LVC 1937 - 10 oz

- LVC 1955 - 12 oz 

This jacket feels closer to the 1915s or 37s than the 1955s, hence my original question although of course I may be just plain wrong.

[nycsurfer530]

even if its not quite as light as the 37s it may have a looser weave to feel lighter? just a guess though

[Foxy2]

unfortunately, there were no scaps from the first tour pair as I didn't get to hemming them - the second tour pair will not be hemmed, no scraps either.

if somebody has the cut-offs from hemming we could measure the fabric weight.

[bartlebyyphonics]

ok

so some extremely unscientific and thus probably unhelpful data as different amounts of fabric with different sizes and different cuts and different amount of hardware, but something nonetheless...

[as you know, my measurements can be sketchy at the best of time; and working with some pretty random kitchen scales that are not the most reliable...]

all have comparable inseam, apart from '37s which are around 5cm shorter...

lvc '15 (9oz) 36-34 c.610g

lvc '37 (10oz) 36-32 c.650-680g

lvc '44 (12oz) 36-34 c.760g

tcb 20s (12.5oz) 38 c.760g

tcb 50s (13.5oz) 36 c.800g

Edited May 25, 2018 by bartlebyyphonics

[Maynard Friedman]

TCB 50s are 13.5oz and 20s are 12.5oz according to respective product details on TCB website

[bartlebyyphonics]

yaaaaass (unreliable weight data list above edited to correct values...)

[volvo240thebest]

19 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

Yaaaassss!

The TCB website states that the jacket is 12.5oz denim (I assume that is raw), so mentally I’m comparing it to the lighter weight jeans I have (all weights stated as raw):

- LVC 1915 - 9oz

- LVC 1937 - 10 oz

- LVC 1955 - 12 oz 

This jacket feels closer to the 1915s or 37s than the 1955s, hence my original question although of course I may be just plain wrong.

Rep works again! I've just neg repped for scientific purposes!!!

[bartlebyyphonics]

'yaaaaaassss'

good night, sweet prince to you...

[MJF9]

20s

Edited May 26, 2018 by MJF9