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Ah! So that’s not so bad as your items were cheaper on checkout by 20% than pre-Brexit anyway? 

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7 minutes ago, RemarkableArmor said:

cheaper on checkout by 20%

Yeah that’s correct my man.

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Ok thanks for clarifying - seriously just trying to get it straight as also U.K. buyer here. I didn’t get anything this time but that would have killed it for me going forward and it seems the trend is that the cooler experimental stuff is gonna be mostly acrnm exclusive which would have been a double kick in the teeth.

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So I’m just trying to get my head round this now. I haven’t paid tax at the checkout, so I’m basically paying it now on import charges. Can someone share what they paid for the P38-E regardless of where you rep from. I paid €1155.37 plus the import charges I’ve gotta pay. (Keeping Euro to make simple). 

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Normal VAT in Germany is 19%, so you are a little higher and the 800 is roughly the same as everyone else is paying inside EU.

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Seems the CZ VAT is 21% so if I check out P38-GT now there would be another 311EU which acronym would deduct and leave to UPS to collect ... so for that plus your P38-E the £800 sounds close(?)

Or perhaps is the U.K. VAT rate which is charged but that would be 20% so it seems around the right total maybe with their admin fees ...(?)

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It’s starting to make sense to me now, thank you. I just didn’t want to dive in and instantly pay the import fee, very nearly did because it’s been such a draaaggg. 

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13 minutes ago, hentaiyarou69 said:

Is this an old iteration? 

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God damn that is glorious 

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30 minutes ago, hentaiyarou69 said:

Is this an old iteration? 

collar is 2.0 so yes

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54 minutes ago, hentaiyarou69 said:

Looks more like Shakedry to me

What’s the difference? 

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Has ACR ever gone backwards iteration wise (2.4->2.0) for any other piece? From the looks of it this is a 2.0 cut in FO and thus an "old" but unreleased iteration. I would imagine FO to be a nightmare to maintain and hence it wasn't released. Otherwise, why wouldn't he make the FO as one of the newer cuts like the 2.4 or J1E instead?

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14 minutes ago, wexler said:

What’s the difference? 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Gore-Tex Infinium is just the re-branded Windstopper, or a variant of Windstopper. Windproof but not really that waterproof.

Gore-Tex Shakedry is a breathable waterproof material that works in a completely different way from typical waterproof Gore-Tex materials. Also, delamination isn't a thing with Shakedry. I have a Shakedry jacket for running/cycling, and really love it.

 

Edit: Also I just realised that Shakedry and Infinium Acronym jackets are both tagged FO, so my bad

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Always thought that J1 pic w/ the shades was quite old, way the flash makes the zipper tape look dark petrol is a nice touch. Anyways, here's another pic from July 2017

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5 hours ago, hentaiyarou69 said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Gore-Tex Infinium is just the re-branded Windstopper, or a variant of Windstopper. Windproof but not really that waterproof.

Edit: Also I just realised that Shakedry and Infinium Acronym jackets are both tagged FO, so my bad

It wasn't very straightforward when Gore rebranded WS as Infinium and had the film out stuff included under that umbrella. They might have started with FO labeled as Infinium and then expanded to include WS idr exactly. Yeah all the PB and FO products are considered to be "Infinium tech" even though you get persistent beading whereas WS isn't WP. Whatever the the face is laminated to gives it a different feel/look as well (ex: J62/63-PB, J63A-FO vs. J46-FO, J67-FO).

Gore-Tex® Film Out Hooded Jacket

Type  WR    Gen.  1    Style  Softshell

Description

The future is fluid. J63 is the first ever hoody built in a completely new type of GORE-TEX® laminate. It shifts focus from the external to the internal, from toughness to softness, from resistance to well being. A new proprietary technology forms a component fabric with persistent beading and extremely low water pick up. This means no bulky face fabric is needed. The result is comfort and quiet unlike anything before it. Suitable for an incredibly wide spectrum of interior and exterior climates; it is the closest thing to a second skin we have ever experienced.

The laminated face of the fabric will 'break-in' and develop it's own individual shine and patina with time. Durability and appearance will vary with type and style of use.

The jacket itself carries the promise of the fabric to it's logical conclusion. A marriage of the timeless simplicity of a hoody with the sophistication of true minimalist design. Fit is zero resistance and grafts to the body with anatomic sleeve anchor loops. Internal security pockets are zippered and in holster position for optimal weight distribution. Exterior pockets are deceptively voluminous with pocket bags extending to both the front and back of the garment. Sleeves are lined for the smoothest possible layering. The new 2-way overlap zip hood can be adjusted to any height for any amount of coverage. And although J63 is so light you'll likely to forget you're wearing it, should you need to doff, the signature Acronym Jacketsling keeps it handsfree.

 

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23 minutes ago, wexler said:

It wasn't very straightforward when Gore rebranded WS as Infinium and had the film out stuff included under that umbrella. They might have started with FO labeled as Infinium and then expanded to include WS idr exactly. Yeah all the PB and FO products are considered to be "Infinium tech" even though you get persistent beading whereas WS isn't WP. Whatever the the face is laminated to gives it a different feel/look as well (ex: J62/63-PB, J63A-FO vs. J46-FO, J67-FO).

 

 

I think this is correct across the board, but I haven't handled all the variants of these fabrics that Acr uses:

FO/PB = membrane is the face fabric (Shakedry)

WS = membrane is the backer (and may or may not include a stitched third layer next-to-skin like J29-WS, J68-WS) 

GT = 2.5L or 3L Gore-Tex where shell, membrane, and backer are all laminated together (PL is kind of an exception here but that might be getting too technical) 

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“ _Never attach pins, needles or staples to the fabric.” 

From the FW 18 J46-FO and it was the few early users' feedback after testing their shakedry items from those capsule collection. I do believe at the time the J1A-FO is on the fence of proper production or being locked in the archive room, till now.

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Havent grab any FO/PB material jacket. Mostly because many on market are damaged and I'm very worried about the durability of this material as a "shell". 

ppl from gore themselves says it's a rather fragile material designed for cycling/running. Prob E won't make more with FO in short term but that J1A-FO def looks great. 

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7 hours ago, kobebean said:

I think this is correct across the board, but I haven't handled all the variants of these fabrics that Acr uses:

FO/PB = membrane is the face fabric (Shakedry)

WS = membrane is the backer (and may or may not include a stitched third layer next-to-skin like J29-WS, J68-WS) 

GT = 2.5L or 3L Gore-Tex where shell, membrane, and backer are all laminated together (PL is kind of an exception here but that might be getting too technical) 

This is about right. There’s also infinium, which acrnm labels weird and can be FO or layered (eg j83-ws)

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14 minutes ago, AggaCityGang said:

Is there anyone in here with a J1E in M (in like new condition) who wants to trade for an L, deadstock. Or do you know someone who does?

Cheers!

 

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It's odd they don't list the pockets as GT Pro for the J83, but Gore nomenclature does get a lil complicated. 

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5 hours ago, eidolarr said:

Where is the infinium in the J83-WS?

Would hope now that some of the dust has settled around the Windstopper re-brand and Shake-Dry becoming it's own thing that the nomenclature is standardized (re: both Gore and ACR). Any new -WS piece is Infinium-membrane'd (my understanding). Gore is still doing a lot of other things under the Infinium-umbrella, making it somewhat hard to know what you're getting based on copy only....

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