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  1. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    There's no way the 3A-11 fits new iPads (which are thinner and have bigger screens), so unless you own an 2011 iPad, good luck. Cool collector's piece maybe? Couldn't be me.
  2. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    Don't stoop down to his level by throwing insults (which are baseless because you know literally nothing about him). Also oddly specific choice of situations. Just trashrep and move on.
  3. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    Final post on this. 1) I'm arguing that pricing matters to Acronym customers and enfin's replacement of ACR at firmament Berlin is an indication of that (the exact reasoning of which is unknown but for the sake of the argument I'm referring to their commercial success). Pricing matters: https://www.reddit.com/r/techwearclothing/search?q=enfin+leve+acronym&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on&sort=top&t=all 2) I am not implying that ACR and enfin leve (and friends) are equals. But with price considered they are equivalents on a cost-to-value basis. (This is what you have confused. They are cross shopped because they are cost-effectively equivalent, not as standalone products.) I don't think we necessarily disagree.
  4. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    Am I? I said on a cost-to-value, didn't I? Cross-shopping does not equate to a conclusion of equality as in a Prius does not beat Ferrari as a better car but it does lose to it on a per-cost basis. I was addressing flipflop's insinuation that I consider enfin to be "as good" as the original, which it isn't. It's more cost-efficient, but not better. Am I the confused one here? We are talking about price, after all. To take price out of consideration and accuse me of equating ACR with other brands outright is disingenuous and misleading. Context, please.
  5. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    I am implying that people cross-shop those brands on a cost-to-value equivalency. Not sure how much simpler how I could have made that.
  6. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    People who shop at ACR bitch about clothes they can't afford when Errolson prices them out. If having enfin in your fit means having a respectable top and shoes then I would go enfin every day of the week and twice on sunday. Budget-shaming are we LMAO
  7. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    1) "Cross-shopping the listed brands (+ including replicas, really?) does not make them equivalent" -> Cross shopping =/= equivalency. 2) "The implication is that you and/or others believe that there is enough equivalency amongst those brands to bother cross-shopping." -> Cross-shopping = enough equivalency. Please explain to me what you mean by equivalency, because in one post you're saying that cross-shopping does not equate to equivalency and in the other, you're accusing me of equating Acronym with other brands because they can be cross-shopped.
  8. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    Here's the quote: "But to others, there are a LOT of people who cross shop between ACR and Outlier, enfin leve, SISP, Riot Division, and many other ACR derivatives (including replicas). " I did NOT say that all of those brands were as good as the original. Cross-shopping does not equate to a conclusion of equality. For instance, I can cross shop a Mercedes S-Class and a Genesis G70, because I can use the extra money saved over from buying the Genesis to other avenues that are more productive for me. The same goes for ACR. People who cross shop ACR and enfin leve can save hundreds of dollars which could be used for other parts of their fit. I don't work for enfin leve.
  9. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    I'm glad you agree... Guess what, a lot of people do shop at ross. And love their Great Value™ Acronym. Everyone has their price points. I'm pointing out that as Errolson raises prices, enfin leve's sales team get wetter in their pants.
  10. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    Okay. Under the assumption that the cross-shopping of two goods makes them equivalents, I'll stand by my point that at a cost-to-value basis there is a point at which the other brands are in that sense equivalent to Acronym. It seemed to me you were referring to Acronym as an equivalent-less brand based on design/functionality alone, excluding price, but if we're counting price it should be a no-brainer. Cost-to-value wise an enfin-leve DS pant exceeds that of a P10, so explain to me how Acronym has no equivalents in that regard.
  11. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    Where did I say they were equivalents? You're misconstruing my argument. "There is no equivalent to ACR" does not mean Errolson can raise prices arbitrarily, otherwise a J1A-GT would be $5000 by now. The reason I'm sensitive to ACR's price is that at some point the added functionality and brand value per dollar diminishes, therefore cross shopping is an option for the majority of consumers. In fact we've seen that with ACG jackets entering the GT jacket space, as it has become a household name on every "techwear" forum, which used to be a niche market for ACR. "Design enthusiast" or not, price matters too. Which is why I didn't buy anything for 2020... and I'm on a forum complaining about it because I want to. I'm not advocating for Errolson to be audited or regulated. I sense a lot of antagonism here... why can't we just disagree.
  12. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    For one, I'm not saying YOU have to stop buying Acronym. I am simply pointing out reasons why others (and believe me I am not alone here) would choose not to buy the products because of the blatant price gouging and profiteering. Yes, to you there is no equivalent to Acronym. But to others, there are a LOT of people who cross shop between ACR and Outlier, enfin leve, SISP, Riot Division, and many other ACR derivatives (including replicas). It's not a zero sum game and our opinions are not mutually exclusive. I don't mind the negative reps, but it's not like I'm wildly wrong. It's probable that the people who don't have as much brand loyalty to ACR wouldn't browse this forum. I'm a design enthusiast and a customer, but maybe the prices are reason for me to reconsider the latter. "Not buying Acronym is more Acronym than Acronym." Stop with the character attacks. Calling me "dumb" does what exactly? I get it. You just got rep points for roasting a cocky lambo Designer. Cool. But that's because he brought up why his opinion should be valued over others. Did I do that? I have not insulted or insinuated anything about you, yet you continue to insult me. Please extend that courtesy back for the sake of argument.
  13. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    If a jacket can be bought for 20$ retail then a $2000 jacket is the equivalent of a $2,000,000 car. Not so much a Porsche 993. I'm a photographer and spend a fair amount in that hobby, but I'm happy to drop $3000 on a Sony A7RIII because I know I'm paying for a competitive and cost-functional price. I know that Sony probably isn't making more than $500 on the price I paid because their competitors would simply undercut them. Can't say the same for a J1A-GT. Don't get me wrong. I own ACR myself. Love his designs. I just refuse to blindly accept the prices for what they are and will continue to be.
  14. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    Yeah sorry I choose to spend my money by thinking... it's strange you use the word hate... I never said I hate acronym. Is negativity or criticism considered hate or are you just using another colloquial version of the term? If you told your mother to stop doing drugs do you hate her? Or love her?
  15. Orientalq

    Acronym.

    Yeah because he can afford it.. in fact most boomers and old people can. When pricing causes your brand to appeal to older people exclusively that's how you kill a brand. Asian boba-sipping silicon valley guys eat it up tho, props to them. 2k out of their kid's college fund lmao.
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