Sugar Cane Denim

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@NilsLW Those traintracks will be epic!

[NilsLW]

@beautiful_FrEaK Thanks! I think so too. Have you started wearing your pair yet or still waiting to get them hemmed?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@NilsLW still waiting to receive them after hemming 

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If anyone has a size 33 BSPOW for sale let me know! The waist on my size 32 is just too snug, even after some aggressive stretching attempts. Hoping SE restocks them eventually.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@NilsLW

Fit pics after the initial wash. Still room for more shrinkage. The rise is really high!

The denim wrinkled very easily. I did my usual routine: first soak to make the denim more pliable, followed by a machine wash inside out with only low spin at the end. Strong creases, some fades to be seen. The denim was very stiff. I ironed them flat after they were dry. Lost 2.5" in the waist so they shrank to tag size.

The denim is quite nice, more neps than I expetced ( I expected none  ). SC really does good repro denim.

 

 

Edit: fit reminds a bit of the Ooe 02 cut: similar high rise, room in the thighs and tapers a similar amount. Only for this fir you would need a Ooe in size 35 or 36 and not 33  

Edited July 4, 2022 by beautiful_FrEaK

[NilsLW]

@beautiful_FrEaK 

Looking really good!
Yeah the denim is quite neutral, at least compared to Resolute 710 which is more of a "stereotype" of a 66 with a crazy amount of hair.
Mine have went from the dark but desaturated initial color to a more light but saturated royal blue after a few washes.
I think the fit is very similar to what John Fogerty can be seen wearing on the cover of Creedence's Green River album, which would've been a pair of 66's.
Personally I've gotten tons of compliments for how mine look on me. I feel like they're my first 501 repros that actually fit around my thighs while still having the correct waist size (a very satisfying feeling).

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Did you post some fit pics on here? I am curious to see those jeans on you.

Yes I did not expect very irregular denim, that doesn't really match the whole SC repro denim anyway. I was just a bit surprised about the amount of neps. Also these neps and the colour remind me of a 66 repro pair I had from Studio d'Artisan. The Resolute denim is probably more hairy than original Cone denim (often japanese brands focus on some traits and "overdo" them).
The SC denim is closer to what Cone would have produced (in my opinion) although the 60s Cone denim would probably be more grayish than these 66 from SC are.

[NilsLW]

No I haven't taken any fit pics, I'll try and take some tomorrow when the Stockholm sky hopefully isn't covered by dark thunderclouds and I can get some more natural light.
So far I like the denim but I feel like it's too early to tell, it took a year for the denim on my TCB 40s to truly come alive and show it's personality.
Is there a 66' fit you do not own yet? The TCB ones maybe? You should totally do an in depth comparison of the all the options when you own the full repertoire!
 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

On 7/4/2022 at 4:32 PM, NilsLW said:

Is there a 66' fit you do not own yet? The TCB ones maybe? You should totally do an in depth comparison of the all the options when you own the full repertoire!

There are certainly a lot of 66s pairs I haven't tried  I did own a pair of TCB 60s at one point, I had Hajime taper them a little bit as I always found (and find) the leg opening of them a bit big, at least compared to the usual 60s pairs we see from other brands.

I do think we have a thread just about 66s pairs and there should be plenty of information in there  

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You guys inspired me to throw my '66 in the washing machine. That wash really made them pop.

Here's a quick photo of the whiskers ... Ignore the dog hairs .

 

 

[olmecasteve]

Hey guys,

quick question hopefully someone can help me. I was under the impression that Sugar Cane products were all made in Japan, except for some stuff that they mention is Made in USA, but I read somewhere that they also have made in China products. Is that true? is there a product code that can help differentiate one from the other?

 

[julian-wolf]

Mainline Sugar Cane is all made in Japan, as far as I know. They have a slew of sub-brands, including Sugar Cane MiUSA, which you’ve mentioned, and Sugar Cane California, which is all made in China. Other sub-brands, like Sugar Cane Light, seem to have mixed origins.

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

Do you mean only SC or Toyo in general? Because tailor toyo is also mostly made in China. 

[Graytrain]

Okay this one might not be for everyone. 

 

But on this episode of under appreciated denims of the world, we have my 1947 jorts that are finally reaching a good stage. Only took them 7 years (don't get too much time in them). Truly think sugar cane denim, new or old, is some of the best. 

[Graytrain]

And yes I chopped them off from new. At self edge Portland from Tmadd back in the day. That was a fun one. 

[Thanks_M8]

^^ great Mate! big fan do u wear 'em cuffed/rolled a bit?

my jorts get washed out so fast cause I gotta wash em every 2 or so wears so it's nice to see some contrast.

[Graytrain]

Yeah I do cuff them! And yeah I am pretty thrilled with the fades I am getting despite all the washing. 

[Dr_Heech]

Hey @beautiful_FrEaK - just in case you missed them - these SugarCanes are based on the same pair as your old (now mine) CSF 1944's - pair #24 in the 501XX book. There's alot of (unecessary) run off thread, which can easily be cut, but apart from that, they dont look too bad (?)

Grabbed a quick screenshot..

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Ah thanks, didn't see them that clearly. Saw the price tag and thought "oh wow..."

One of the recent Warehouse models was based on the same #24 as well I think

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@Dr_Heech Hej Doc...saw those jeans again and it seems they are missing the crotch rivet though. And the low Yen is really a problem here, 42.900 Yen is quite a price.

[Maynard Friedman]

Wouldn’t a low yen (¥) be a good thing for foreign customers?  Especially if the price is high?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Usually yes but as these are made in the US, it raises the price for the manufacturing and thus they are a lot more expensive as older MiUSA models

[Maynard Friedman]

Shouldn’t a slightly higher manufacturing cost (this is for labour only) resulting in a higher price be offset by the exchange rate gain by the customer from a weaker yen? I think that ¥42k price is due to factors other than just increased (US) labour cost, possibly cashing in on the recent-ish surge in demand/hype for WW2 jeans, bringing it more into line with brands such as CSF and exploiting the USA-made label. I could, of course, be completely wrong 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

2 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

I could, of course, be completely wrong 

Me as well

[cusswords]

Hinoya made some Okinawa 2021s if anyone is needs some slim downed Oki’s. 

[reallypeacedoff]

Unfortunately, after my moto yesterday, I realized I have caught the crotch coming apart just in time (thank god). Annoyingly I was at SELA yesterday so I could have dropped them off (and bought a new pair of Samurais in the process). But need my wallet to remain heavy at the moment.

This denim is so awesome though, and I particularly love the pocket bags too. These are freshly washed in anticipation of taking them to SELA so they are still damp. Definitely a lot lighter and more green too.

Edited September 16, 2022 by reallypeacedoff

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If anyone is interested I have a pair of Sugarcane BSPOW Okinawas size 33 for sale. They're from the most recent release and have only been worn inside of my house twice. They are hemmed to 31 length and are basically brand new. Looking for $220 shipped.

 

 

[jstavrin]

On 5/25/2022 at 2:00 PM, roomtemplacroix said:

brief photo update of my 1955z that i’ve been wearing since december 2021. i like the fit on these a lot more than the 66. 

Sugar Cane’s best cut by a mile, in my opinion. I’ve been considering getting a second pair to save “just in case.”

Would love to keep seeing more pics as yours age. Mine are coming along, but slowly due to WFH life. 

 

[Ciabatta]

What’s the waist like on the 55’s? Are they a little smaller than tagged? I find the 47’s in a 34 to be tight while the 34 in the 66’s are looser and more comfortable (tho the rise is higher so that prob helps.)

[Mtvare]

Waist is a bit big if anything. I've only worn them a month or so (and washed them once) and they already won't stay up without a belt. They stretch a lot.