Samurai Jeans

[louisbosco]

yeah til, careful that it won't tip over due to weight issues. 

[cander49]

Decided to final organize my Samurai jeans according to their weight (15oz - 25oz)

Umm.  Wow.  That's a lot of awesome denim.  Congrats on the amazing collection.  Can we see pics of how worn in they are?

Edited January 6, 2014 by cander49

[llvlaglne]

That bar looks like it's bending

[Segovia]

Samurai sizing question!

 

I'm looking at a pair of 710xx, but haven't dealt with Samurai's at all before.

 

My PBJ 24-007 measure about 37" at the waist, and 13" in the thigh. I'd like a similar top block fit in the 710's.

 

According to BiG charts, the 36's measure 37" waist and 13.5" thigh when raw. The 35's measure 36" waist and 13.25" thigh when raw.

 

How much shrinkage should I expect from normal warm/hot machine washing. Should I go with the 35 or 36?

 

Thanks!

[everyinchofgod]

My 710's stretched 1" past the raw measurement in the waist. I'd go with the 35's if you want to get as close to 13" as possible in the thighs.

[Segovia]

Do you remember what the thighs did with a soak/stretching out at all?

[BrownMetallic]

Samurai sizing question!

 

I'm looking at a pair of 710xx, but haven't dealt with Samurai's at all before.

 

My PBJ 24-007 measure about 37" at the waist, and 13" in the thigh. I'd like a similar top block fit in the 710's.

According to BiG charts, the 36's measure 37" waist and 13.5" thigh when raw. The 35's measure 36" waist and 13.25" thigh when raw.

 

How much shrinkage should I expect from normal warm/hot machine washing. Should I go with the 35 or 36?

 

Thanks!

 

 

in real life, i've handled 2 pairs of 710XX.  IMO,  sizing [really]  depends on your purpose for choosing it.

 

1st was a SD1 @W32:  i could stretch them out to 33" & really loved the slim-tapered  silhouette.  after 6 washes = 1.5yrs  down the line,  they'd shrink below tagged every post-wash ...  had to wrestle to get them buttoned up & stretched back out to wearing dimension each time.

 

2nd was a SU1 @34:  awkward fit @beginning,  since most [including me] expected a clean line  + slim-looking fit all around   down the line, after 4yrs & countless washes,   i was glad i SU1 & not TTSed. currently,  they're on point @33.5" ... no prep stretching necessary. 

 

... will post current pic when i get a chance.

 

edit:

 

 

Edited January 7, 2014 by BrownMetallic

[everyinchofgod]

Do you remember what the thighs did with a soak/stretching out at all?

They currently measure 12.25" at the thigh, which would be .25" less than the raw measurement.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Because I have been asked this multiple times and yesterday again:

 

Leather patch

The two Samurais on the leather patch are Miyamoto Musashi and Sasaki KojirÅ

 

 

I also added this info in the first post of my fit guide

[dylanbooth78]

Just got my other samurai shirt in the post! I ordered the next size up this time and it is a bit comfy-er! here are a couple of phone pics I will follow up with some better pics later. this is basically the same shirt just in a different colour and with different pockets and double thickness elbows.

 

 

 

[Chubacca]

^^^ That's a really nice shirt! How's the sizing? Slim or natural?

[dylanbooth78]

^^^ That's a really nice shirt! How's the sizing? Slim or natural?

 

They are a natural cut if you have a look at the previous page I posted a picture of almost exactly the same shirt in a size Large, I am roughly a size 42" in most things and that size large is pretty fitted on me, for an example here is this shirt in size XL...

 

 

Here is the other shirt (size Large) for comparison.

 

 

 

I hope that made some sense mate I always seem to be in a rush when i post on this forum 

Edited January 7, 2014 by dylanbooth78

[Chubacca]

For sure, thanks! I'm really considering buying the flannel with the red lining.  Love the selvedge details.

[le14]

Samaurais have been worn over 5 years and going strong. Evisus are sturdy, albeit a bit thinner but fade quicker. Just started consistently wearing my flatheads but I tend to go back to the Samauris out of habit and comfort. Evisus fit was a bit more relaxed as well (#2)

Been wearing scrubs the last 4 years so my rotation doesn't get as much wear anymore. My two favorites.:

1) samurai 0500 have had them for about 6 years

2) MIJ Evisu I think #2 but I'm not sure of that or the lot since the tag has faded over time the 5+ years I've had them

Edited January 8, 2014 by le14

[501XX4EVER]

I'm interested to read the thoughts of anyone that bought either of the Blackhawk/Redhawk BiG Ltd. Edt. models? Have they been worth the extra money?

[everyinchofgod]

I'm wearing my Black Shadows today (rare jeans day at work due to all the snow), they are basically the exact same thing as the Blackhawks, to me it's worth it to have my favorite cut in the 17 oz denim. I love my regular 19 oz S710's, but the 17 oz denim is so much slubbier and it's noticeably lighter, which is nice sometimes. Plus I like the complete blackout vibe they have.

[gazeboarder]

I'm interested to read the thoughts of anyone that bought either of the Blackhawk/Redhawk BiG Ltd. Edt. models? Have they been worth the extra money?

 

I bought a pair of the black shadows from BIG.  I love these jeans and highly recommend them.  I have a large collection of denim including Iron Heart, PBJ, Flat Head, Stevenson, Strike Gold, Ande Whall, Momotaro and these black shadows are one of my favorite pair.

 

 

 

 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Have they been worth the extra money?

 they all cost 345$ at BiG, just like the regular 710

[MJF9]

Hello all... would appreciate if someone with the Black Hawks could advise the shrinkage they got... I don't need a pair but they're growing on me!! Thanks.

[Al6ert]

 

I bought a pair of the black shadows from BIG.  I love these jeans and highly recommend them.  I have a large collection of denim including Iron Heart, PBJ, Flat Head, Stevenson, Strike Gold, Ande Whall, Momotaro and these black shadows are one of my favorite pair.

 

What do you like about the 17 oz. zero denim?

 

I am really interested because I too have a pair of the black shadows AND I am still on the fence about these even though I've put as much wear into mine (in approx 3 months). That is: although I love the fit of the 710 cut and these are living up to the fast fading properties Sami's are known for, I am having a tough time liking the soft sweater like weave. I wish they'd calm down and look like denim already.

 

The more I see the XX 19 oz. denim on sufu, the more I think that's the Samurai denim I'd rather spend my time with. Unfortunately, I don't think they do the xx denim, in black, and in the 710 cut. I believe they had something similar for the Black Knights (which I missed copping way back when).

[501XX4EVER]

 they all cost 345$ at BiG, just like the regular 710

 

Not quite, the regular S710XX are 19oz while the Black Hawks are 17oz, like the S5000BK, so really, they should be the S5000BK price, not the S710XX price. A small difference yes, but when you consider that BiG prices are a little bit on the high side anyway... you know what I mean. :ph34r:

 

Hello all... would appreciate if someone with the Black Hawks could advise the shrinkage they got... I don't need a pair but they're growing on me!! Thanks.

 

It's like you're reading my mind. :D

[Quoise1203]

All new samurai releases for 15, 17, and 19oz denim are $345 at BiG, at least for standard cuts. You can see even the 15oz s500 and s510 are retailing for $345. The 5000bk were released a few years ago and are listed at the price they sold for at that time.

[501XX4EVER]

All new samurai releases for 15, 17, and 19oz denim are $345 at BiG, at least for standard cuts. You can see even the 15oz s500 and s510 are retailing for $345. The 5000bk were released a few years ago and are listed at the price they sold for at that time.

 

Not these ones.

 

***NEW Samurai Jeans - 17oz S5000BK Limited Edition 15th Anniv.

Brand : Samurai Jeans

Price: $325.00

[mothball]

What do you like about the 17 oz. zero denim?

 

I am really interested because I too have a pair of the black shadows AND I am still on the fence about these even though I've put as much wear into mine (in approx 3 months). That is: although I love the fit of the 710 cut and these are living up to the fast fading properties Sami's are known for, I am having a tough time liking the soft sweater like weave. I wish they'd calm down and look like denim already.

Can you explain what you mean by soft sweater like weave? I thought I had read the zero denim was pretty rough.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

yeah ok...compared to that you are right

 

But then I was already surprised that Big increased their prices when the Yen lost 30% of its value (ok..compared to the Euro but it should also have lost against the $).

 

I think only IHUK reduced their prices because of this and...may SE did too?

[lance]

^ agree, I'm surprised the Yen/dollar value decline slid by without lots of comments - US retailers seemed to ignore it or actually increase their prices!

[Al6ert]

Can you explain what you mean by soft sweater like weave? I thought I had read the zero denim was pretty rough.

unevenness from knots of weft poking inconsistently through warp coupled with hairy cotton fiber throughout. Maybe it's because of the black warp on top of the bright white weft, the black zero denim visually reminds me of a sweater. Even from a few feet away. I am still hoping that it will turn a flatter grey and less hairy overtime.

Here is a macro pic of the black zero denim from BiG:

I've owned Sams in 17 oz. Zero and 15 oz. Texas cotton and both are made from long fibrous cotton and have an inconsistent weave. I’d argue that the denim is rather soft BUT never smooth or stiff. That is, when you lightly run your hand over the fabric. With constant coarse rubbing over the skin these denims feels like a subtle rug burn, which IMHO is what people interpret as "rough." This is probably why people initially get localized abrasion and quicker indigo loss from Sams and PBJs.

Edited January 10, 2014 by Al6ert

[gazeboarder]

What do you like about the 17 oz. zero denim?

 

I am really interested because I too have a pair of the black shadows AND I am still on the fence about these even though I've put as much wear into mine (in approx 3 months). That is: although I love the fit of the 710 cut and these are living up to the fast fading properties Sami's are known for, I am having a tough time liking the soft sweater like weave. I wish they'd calm down and look like denim already.

 

The more I see the XX 19 oz. denim on sufu, the more I think that's the Samurai denim I'd rather spend my time with. Unfortunately, I don't think they do the xx denim, in black, and in the 710 cut. I believe they had something similar for the Black Knights (which I missed copping way back when).

 

I really like this jean as an entire package.  The details, the hardware, the cut and the denim.  I actually like the unevenness of this denim.  It's not as uneven as my PBJ's but definitely not smooth.  I feel smooth black denim looks a little boring.  Lastly these jeans are really comfortable to wear.

[Al6ert]

I really like this jean as an entire package.  The details, the hardware, the cut and the denim.  I actually like the unevenness of this denim.  It's not as uneven as my PBJ's but definitely not smooth.  I feel smooth black denim looks a little boring.  Lastly these jeans are really comfortable to wear.

 

yeah, i really dig the cut, the hardware, and the black stitching throughout. 

 

regarding the denim, this has been my experience too...After initially wearing them for two weeks straight, the roughness from the fibers that create that "rug burn" sensation seemed to wear away and they are now quite soft all around. I even hiked over 10 miles in them the other day.

[Quoise1203]

Not these ones.

***NEW Samurai Jeans - 17oz S5000BK Limited Edition 15th Anniv.

Brand : Samurai Jeans

Price: $325.00

You got me! 😳