Samurai Jeans

[sta991]

What is the 710 "special heavy weight" coming out in the Spring? Please tell me it is the 710xx in 25 oz.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Going by speculations, rumors and messages from Gordon it will be more likely the 21oz...but who knows

[everyinchofgod]

I almost hope it is the 21oz, because if it's the 25oz, I'll likely be looking to sell a kidney.

[Max Power]

Maybe yes. But I still think that there's an ideal weight for jeans that is around 14-18 oz. Anything above does not add much to the value, neither in terms of durabilty, fading and it's definitely less comfortable to wear. I know you're right that these would sell fast, but if they did 17, 21 and 25 oz, I'd go with 17.

[B-Sandy]

My S003JPs are starting to show a bit of roping. 

 

[everyinchofgod]

I have 14oz (PBJ), 17oz (Samurai Black Shadows), 19oz (Samurai s710), 21oz (IH BB01's), and 23oz (IH SEXIHXLSXA13's). I like them all, but given the choice, I usually prefer the heavier denims unless it's over 90 degrees, and definitely when it's under 40 degrees. I just like the overall "burliness" of the look and feel of heavy denim. I don't think I'd buy anything below 17oz at this point. Different strokes I guess. The reason why I'd prefer the 25oz in this particular case is that I've heard the 25oz Samurai denim is a bit slubbier than their 21oz denim. This may not be accurate information though.

[mavric]

Is detergent necessary for shrinkage? I just did a hot wash on a new pair and I want to try again to get a little more shrink out; does it matter if I use it on the 2nd wash?

[Vulcan]

Detergent isn't going to affect the shrinkage. Hot water soak is what most people recommend to get the shrink out but leave the indigo in.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@B-Sandy: that's nice and strong Roping. Especially for Samurai jeans

 

@everyinchofgod: after trying out 17oz, 19oz and 21oz I also thought I could never go back. Now also owning 24oz & 25oz I see myself favor the more "authentic" denim again (13-15oz). But that said, I would still choose a 14oz over a 13oz denim

[Max Power]

Is detergent necessary for shrinkage? I just did a hot wash on a new pair and I want to try again to get a little more shrink out; does it matter if I use it on the 2nd wash?

 

make sure to agitate them while soaking. Detergent is not needed.

[cmo]

I wish they'd do them in 15oz... Perfect weight in my opinion. Anything heavier I don't think I'll bother... Too uncomfortable.

Has anyone had any recent updates in relation to this 710 collab?? Seems like rumours have been ongoing for 18months with no 'real' details known...

[Max Power]

I wrote it often before. I had numerous email contacts with Gordon, where he mentioned 15 oz, 17 oz and something heavier, like 21 or 24 oz. So far his plans, we'll know what Samurai commits to do when he announces the models. I think Samurai are not that easy concerning collabs and until you see the details it's pointless to speculate.

Edited January 30, 2014 by Max Power

[Chubacca]

I think it all comes down to personal preference with oz weight.  I myself would never go below 17 and tough to say if I'd go higher than 20.

[zwer]

This winter I've found that my 19oz 710s are good to about -10c with the wind chill. Anything colder and it's 25oz IH all the way. Even down to -30c I haven't added long johns.

 

Interested to see what the 19oz is like in the Spring. I know that I can't take 25oz above the mid teens.

[neinei]

How would two hot soaks effect the fading process of barely worn 710xx's?
Found a pair for sale my size that were soaked twice

[nutusufu]

How would two hot soaks effect the fading process of barely worn 710xx's?

Found a pair for sale my size that were soaked twice

 

There should be no issue. If they are a good price, get them.

[everyinchofgod]

This winter I've found that my 19oz 710s are good to about -10c with the wind chill. Anything colder and it's 25oz IH all the way. Even down to -30c I haven't added long johns.

 

Interested to see what the 19oz is like in the Spring. I know that I can't take 25oz above the mid teens.

The mid teens?! Surely you can make it to the 40's at least.

I've had no issues with my 710's in the summer. I've even worn my 23oz IH's (that don't breathe AT ALL) during the summer. I don't spend long stretches outdoors most of the time though, I'm usually in and out all day long. But the 710's breathe pretty well so you should be okay.

[vgadjo]

This winter I've found that my 19oz 710s are good to about -10c with the wind chill. Anything colder and it's 25oz IH all the way. Even down to -30c I haven't added long johns.

 

Interested to see what the 19oz is like in the Spring. I know that I can't take 25oz above the mid teens.

 

Hey,

 

not sure about Toronto but I've never been cold with my 15 oz jeans (sda, momos) until -15/-20 here in Montreal. From -15 to -28 (actual degrees) I wear some 710s and my legs are warm enough to walk outside for an hour or two. They're breathable enough to feel comfortable at the office too, a great pair overall.

 

When my gf tells me she's frozen with her 8-11 oz raws (N&F and Baldwin) I feel pretty lucky we've got so may options as guys

[Max Power]

But don't girls always feel cold? I could wear my 19 oz 500 most of the time in the last (cold) summer, but the loose cut made me do it. The 710 were pretty gnarly. Anything above 25°C and I wear shorts, no matter what. For sure I won't be wearing heavy weight denim then. (Has anybody seen the Lemmy Movie, where Ian Scott asked him about his hot pants? Hilarious scene).

Edited January 31, 2014 by Max Power

[Lukenstein]

s710xx  19 oz

 

                             

 

[vgadjo]

But don't girls always feel cold? I could wear my 19 oz 500 most of the time in the last (cold) summer, but the loose cut made me do it. The 710 were pretty gnarly. Anything above 25°C and I wear shorts, no matter what. For sure I won't be wearing heavy weight denim then. (Has anybody seen the Lemmy Movie, where Ian Scott asked him about his hot pants? Hilarious scene).

 

Hehe, right. But I'm told the same by all my male friends here wearing shitty thin jeans (probably 8-10 oz). So I guess it's quite cold. Below -20 you really need something thicker than 14-15 oz if you want to feel comfortable.

 

I was quite 'happy' to notice that cold reveals how good your clothes are, like jeans and hoodies. In fact, most of them (people) just try to cope with cold by buying expensive Canada Goose or Nobis coats when they could have bought good quality, durable clothes in the first place...consumption education, a long way to go.

[bradl]

Canada Goose is a damn fine jacket, not my cup of tea, but they're durable.

[Gilangaditya]

fire 4 y'o maybe

[vgadjo]

Canada Goose is a damn fine jacket, not my cup of tea, but they're durable.

Not saying they're not, they're actually great. Nobis are even better. It's just not really needed - at least here in Montreal - when you wear some good stuff. You can get away with a good shirt, a heavy hoodie and a leather jacket.

It may be another story in Calgary though.

[12ax7]

Pretty pumped that my 710's are enroute from BiG.

[Broark]

Anyone have more information about the khaki selvedge chinos on BiG?

The leg measurements of the 36 look great but in the waist they're a full two inches smaller than tagged.

[Foxy2]

True that - had to go with W34 instead of my Samurai standard size of W32.

Not much to stretch here due to the type of fabric...

[Broark]

Guess I'll have to size up then, I can get into a 35 generally (pair of WH 1001s I have measures out to 35) but 34 could be pushing it. Shame, the leg looks a bit too big next size up.

[Max Power]

The 710 had been available at denimio - but sold out really fast.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

?

According to their website they still have 4 pairs in stock.

But also the S5000VX and S510XX19oz were only available in small numbers to begin with...