Samurai Jeans

[AndyK]

I'm looking to get a new pair of Samurais.

Can anyone recommend me a good model? Thanks.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

15 oz. Texas cotton and both are made from long fibrous cotton 

 

this is actually wrong. As long as you believe in all the descriptions flying around. The trait of the Texas Cotton is, that is has rather short fibers making it a rougher denim

[Davil]

AndyK, I don't own any Samurais, so I may not be the best person to answer this, but a good place to start would be the 15th anniversary models.  Either that or search this thread until you see something that you like.  

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I'm looking to get a new pair of Samurais.

Can anyone recommend me a good model? Thanks.

 

Every model is a good model. You should give us more input what fit and denim you are looking after

Edited January 10, 2014 by beautiful_FrEaK

[bradl]

this is actually wrong. As long as you believe in all the descriptions flying around. The trait of the Texas Cotton is, that is has rather short fibers making it a rougher denim

I am assuming Texas cotton is something like the first pictured

[Al6ert]

this is actually wrong. As long as you believe in all the descriptions flying around. The trait of the Texas Cotton is, that is has rather short fibers making it a rougher denim

 

color me corrected.

 

It must be the Zimbabwe cotton that is known for having long fibers && therefore soft characteristics. At first that makes sense, but didn't IH stop using Zimbabwe cotton and go to American cotton. I don't think that anyone even noticed a difference in their fabrics. Maybe, the overall feel of the cotton is more a function of the manufacturing processes.

[dylanbooth78]

some update phone pics, S710XX...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[501XX4EVER]

I'm still on the fence about the Black Hawks, however I did notice that Samurai has used at least one the special features before. The s3000bk had the black pocket bags as well. It's not a criticism, just an observation.

 

http://www.samurai-j.com/lineup/jeans/s3000bk/

 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

From my observation you rarely see new things on Samurai collabs. Most of the time it's just a new arrangement of all existing stuff

[mange]

Samurai S5000vx 25oz 15^th Anniversary, Size 30

 

Decided to do a wash after little more than 5.5 months. Did a 60 degree Celsius machine wash and got a tighter fit, especially in the top block (expected since I didn’t soak the top block at the beginning). They did hold on to the color surprisingly well, not much of a difference in the overall color.

 

Had trouble photographing them though, when I did the before pictures I had daylight and for the after shots it was just not possible. So I did two after shots, with and without flash. But I do think that the flash photos resemble the daylight photos the best. My photo skills obviously are not the best.

 

Here are the measurements (size 30), before and after wash. Note though, that I stretched the waist and inseam when wet.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 14, 2014 by mange

[Max Power]

From my observation you rarely see new things on Samurai collabs. Most of the time it's just a new arrangement of all existing stuff

 

Very true. They often use buttons from other models, other denim than on certain cuts or different arcs or threads and that's it.

[Planetarium]

Sam 710, about three years, a few washes, many soaks

 

 

 

 

 

 

[exaptavist]

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Edited October 8, 2015 by hoggreaser

[12ax7]

Hey all,  Been a lurker here for quite a while, doing some Sam research.  Well time has come to ask you gents a question.  Currently im in a pair of Iron Heart 364s',  and im looking for someting a little more slim in the leg opening.  Im a true waist 35 so beautiful_FrEaK's fit gudie has been invaluable.  At the moment im torn between the 710 and the 0500.  Now as far as denim weight between the 15 and the 19oz what is going to be more comfortable in the Texas heat?  Is the 19oz a breathable weave similar to the IH 21oz?  Also as far as leg openings go, im looking for a post soak right around 8" and I fear the 0500 may wind up fitting too close to my 634's.

 

anyway this is my first pair of Sams and my first real unsanforized pair also,  So i look forward to everyones opinons and advice.

 

Thanks,  Ross

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Fit wise you will be more happy with the 710. n regards to heat, the 0500 should be better. So yeah..that wasn't much of a help

[Al6ert]

^^ 710 is universally flattering, but you should expect the upper block to be much more constrained. size up one from 634 tagged size (or at least this was the case for me for 31 IH / 32 Sam), but double check size chart...keeping in mind shrinkage from unsanforized denim. That IH flagship denim is very breathable. I don't think that you should expect this from any version of 710's. If "breath-ability" is a concerned, I would shy away from most heavy weight denim.

[BrownMetallic]

710vx maybe a good compromise

[Planetarium]

I sized up one from my 634 as well.

[12ax7]

I appreciate everyones advice on this.  The weight i can deal with cause 100 deg is freaking hot no matter what you are wearing.  But heres how i figure my fit and correct me if im wrong.  My waist measures 35",  im actually in a 32 on my 634's but they are stretched to 34.5 and the thighs are right at 13 and comfy.  Waist is a little tight and i just figured i should stick TTS and go with the 35's. 

 

Should i go up to a 36 possibly?

[Foxy2]

I wear a W32 in IH-634S - I was able to wear a W31 in the world tour IH-634S because it was well worn in - I wear a W32 in almost all Samurai cuts (especially, the more recent lots), but I always stretch them out after soaking while wet/damp - my true waist should also be in the range of 33.5-34.5".

Personally, I would go with with W32 or W33, but not much higher...

(The above refers to Samurai denim in the range of 15-19oz - I have not been wearing any of their 21-24-25oz denim.)

Edited January 17, 2014 by Foxy2

[Max Power]

I appreciate everyones advice on this.  The weight i can deal with cause 100 deg is freaking hot no matter what you are wearing.  But heres how i figure my fit and correct me if im wrong.  My waist measures 35",  im actually in a 32 on my 634's but they are stretched to 34.5 and the thighs are right at 13 and comfy.  Waist is a little tight and i just figured i should stick TTS and go with the 35's. 

 

Should i go up to a 36 possibly?

 

I can squeeze into my 634 SB in 32 as well, but they're super tight. However, I wear all samurais in 34 and stretch all my pairs to 35-36. So I am a true 35 as well. I suppose 34 could be perfect for you.For a more relaxed fit, try 35. But I think 36 is way too big if you got a 634 in 32 that fits. The 19 oz denim is very breathy and even if it softens up, it stays heavy (just noticing from switching between the UES and 500XX). I think the 0500 is your best choice or the lighter 710 collabs with big.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

710 in size 33 or 34 would be good. 35 and 36 would be too big IMO

[Al6ert]

I appreciate everyones advice on this.  The weight i can deal with cause 100 deg is freaking hot no matter what you are wearing.  But heres how i figure my fit and correct me if im wrong.  My waist measures 35",  im actually in a 32 on my 634's but they are stretched to 34.5 and the thighs are right at 13 and comfy.  Waist is a little tight and i just figured i should stick TTS and go with the 35's. 

 

Should i go up to a 36 possibly?

 

If your 634s stretched to 34.5" then that IS what you want to shoot for. IMHO you'll want to size down by 2" in the waist (after shrinkage is out), because this is what you'll get back from stretching. You'll know you got it right when buttoning them up. Top button should be initially difficult to get together. They should be able to stretch quickly to your target size and be comfortable.

 

Quickly looking at the size chart from BiG tells me that you should be a tagged size 33 in 710xx. Pre-soak waist = 34", Post-soak should be 34 * (95% of 34) = 32.3". They should stretch to 34.3". If your 634S' are uncomfortably tight, then going up one size would be appropriate. Just be aware that these are gonna be tighter in the thigh. I'd take MaxPows suggestion regarding the XX denim (the vx breathes pretty well too), but I think that the 0500 fit will be too full in the leg for you, especially if you are looking for a more fitted look through the leg.

Edited January 17, 2014 by Al6ert

[12ax7]

Well let me say i appreciate everybody on here that has chimed in.  I think im going to get the 34's ordered soon.  My 634's make me rep some muffin top so i think the 710 34's stretched to hopefully a 35 will be just right.

 

Again thanks everybody,  looking forward to participating in the boards more too.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

size 34 stretched to 35 will be no problem at all

[UkeNo]

Just seen a pair of S5000AI on 'the bay' for $1299.99! ($865 from BIG) And from Japan.

Crazy.

Edited January 18, 2014 by UkeNo

[Max Power]

See? B_fs buying policy finally makes sense.

Edited January 18, 2014 by Max Power

[beautiful_FrEaK]

There ar some dudes selling Japanese stuff for crazy prices. RMC too.

Dunno who ist stupid enough to buy from them

[UkeNo]

Yeah. I only came across it as I sorted the list with most expensive first - it gave me a bit of a shock.

With RMC the guy is actually having to then buy your wares from Japan and have it shipped to him then re-ship to the eBay buyer. At a massively inflated cost.

Bastards.

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