Samurai Jeans

[mpukas]

Here are pics of my S510OG 16oz AK 16th Anniversary; natural indigo warp and persimmon weft. These have been my go-to jeans during and after the DWC (in which I wore tapered IH634XHS, but were a size too small so I bailed early). They have about 9 +/- months total wear and a least as many, if not more, washes. These are size 33, and fit very well, but I'd prefer a 34 to be a little more comfy in the waist. The fit pics are right after a wash, and they'll stretch a little the waist and hips. They've lost a lot of the really dark color since new. The outside pics are little washed out from the morning sun, and are a little lighter than IRL. Overall, these are probably my favorite pair that I own right now - simply gorgeous jeans, very well made, great pockets. My onl;y complaint is Samurai uses cotton thread, and there are many places where the threads are breaking. The denim is amazing with lots of subtle texture and color. 

First pic is brand new, unwashed, unhemmed for reference

[mpukas]

The jeans are fresh from a wash in these outside pics. The "dirt" visible in the close-up is from dust on the deck. 

Edited October 14, 2017 by mpukas

[mpukas]

[HGS]

Those look great.  Samurai jeans can fade a number of ways but the texture and color from washing like this is my favorite -- subtle but striking.

[mlyngard]

On 10/11/2017 at 2:23 PM, tigerstrom said:

I measure my jeans like this @Mongmeohotdau814

https://blueingreensoho.com/pages/measurement-guide

I was about to post the same!

If only every retailer DID measure like that. I've always assumed that was the industry standard way to measure. But I've learned from negative experience it isn't. Lately, if it really matters to me, I've asked for measurement verification (especially on leg dimension on tapers where it will be hemmed), Jay at Blue Owl was very, very kind to do for me on THREE pairs of the same size, to get a benchmark, so he totally gets it.

[Critical Observer]

Guys, long time lurker, first time poster here... I haven’t felt the need to contribute as I’ve been just enjoying the wealth of knowledge on display here, but I could use some words of wisdom now.

 

S710XX 24 oz. is available again in its 2nd incarnation; as BiG don’t carry Sammys anymore and as Denimio’s measurements chart is as unhelpful as ever, I had a quick word with their (Russian?) CS person on their live chat. Kindly see the attached image for their measurements for tag sizes 32 & 33. It appears other measurements are just about the same but there’s a huge gap between the waist measurements; could this be true or is the tighter waist likely to lead to tighter fit around seat and hips in general, albeit not immediately apparent looking at the chart (same front rise, almost the same thigh)?

 

Seeing how size 32 starts from 32” waist while 33 clocks in at almost 34”, which one would I be advised to pick if I was aiming at a 32.5”ish waist post-soak and post- stretching them back out? 32 would seem the likelier candidate but if they shrink by 1”+ to sub-31” levels, I won’t be able to get them on to start the stretching. OTOH, looking at people’s fit pics, I think this cut is at its most flattering when worn “slim”, so getting the size just right seems of paramount importance.

 

Thanks for any tips/suggestions/inane banter you might be able to send to my general direction.

 

Edited October 29, 2017 by Critical Observer

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Maybe you can ask them to look for a size 32 which measures bigger in the waist, more like 33". Or you could try to shrink the size 33 down a lot. 

With getting older I always tend to go for the bigger size these days. 

If I remember correctly, the 24oz denim stretches back and beyond raw measurements. But I only have experience with a soaked pair, not a pair washed several times in the machine. 

Edited October 30, 2017 by beautiful_FrEaK

[mememessenger]

Just ordered these bad boys. Second pair of samurais for me. Will get them in the beginning of December. Model number is s634xx 2nd 20th anniversary

[DoitsuJin]

@mpukas

the fit on those are spot on sir, great fades as well. cheers

[swiss-jeansfreak]

mememessanger: Great looking jeans! Rock them the hardcore way for ever

[Critical Observer]

On ‎30‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 8:08 AM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Maybe you can ask them to look for a size 32 which measures bigger in the waist, more like 33". Or you could try to shrink the size 33 down a lot. 

With getting older I always tend to go for the bigger size these days. 

If I remember correctly, the 24oz denim stretches back and beyond raw measurements. But I only have experience with a soaked pair, not a pair washed several times in the machine. 

Cheers. After lots of umming and erring (and watching size 33 go out of stock, as it were), I ordered the 32 and asked them to look for a bigger running specimen.

Cue the inevitable "BNWT 710XX 24 oz. size 32" in the classifieds in about a week...

[Critical Observer]

On ‎31‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 9:46 PM, Critical Observer said:

Cheers. After lots of umming and erring (and watching size 33 go out of stock, as it were), I ordered the 32 and asked them to look for a bigger running specimen.

Cue the inevitable "BNWT 710XX 24 oz. size 32" in the classifieds in about a week...

So got the jeans, finally (got rogered up the ol' gary glitter pretty hard by the customs, oh well), and the tag size 32 specimen they sent to me claiming it'd measure 84cm (33") on the waist turned out to be bang on 32" and that's being generous... Otherwise the fit seemed promising so into the (lukewarm) drink they went, and after a couple of hours of soaking I tossed 'em into the washing machine, 30'C and no spin.

The waist shrank to a hair over 30" while the inseam lost around 2"; predictably, they got a bit more snug all around and I'm really digging them at this point, the slight discomfort on the gut not-withstanding (just got the final button buttoned up, so that's sorted). To my most pleasant surprise the front rise came through unscathed (11" going in, 11" coming out), I really didn't want to lose any of that.

It's been mentioned more than a couple of times that this 24/27oz. fabric keeps on shrinking on subsequent washes; considering the routine I pulled so far (lukewarm soak for 2,5 hours, warm wash for 1,5 hours, no spin no tumble dry), should I try and give them another soak/wash/both at these early stages?

Fit pics later, possibly a double-whammy with my shiny new White's Smoke Jumpers.

[mpukas]

FWIW I usually give my new jeans another wash after wearing them for about a week (after initial 1 or 2 washes). I want to make sure I get all the shrink out, so when the creases start to set in they won't move if they shrink with future washing. However I've found minimal shrink left after the first 2 washes, consistently across almost all jeans I own/have owned. 

Looking forward to fit pics. The 710XX 24 oz is a pair I've been eyeing for a couple years, but never pulled the trigger... 

[gfarina55]

If anyone's interested, I have a pair of S5000VX 21oz. 33w, and S003JP Yamato 34w that are both a size too big for me. I'd love to swap for a size smaller of each, and would even try the S5000VXs in 31w. The 33w S5000s are my second try and STILL too big. I'd also consider other Samurai models if someone wants to swap? I have lots more photos...some signs of wear but these are basically just getting started.

Edited November 17, 2017 by gfarina55

[Robert Langdon]

Has anyone ordered from 2nd on Rakuten? I’m looking into buying the S500OG from them- shipped to NYC. Anyone? 

[mpukas]

I've ordered from 2nd several times. Good shop, reputable and trustworthy. Their English is so-so, but transactions and shipping to US have always been fine. It's well known that they won't measure anything though. 

[Foxy2]

seconded - easy to work with, reliable & fast!

[oomslokop]

thirded. write yr emails in english and include a google translate version underneath. 

[Robert Langdon]

Thanks you guys! Turns out the last size 36 was sold within hours of my email to them. Bummer

[Jambol]

12 hours ago, Robert Langdon said:

Thanks you guys! Turns out the last size 36 was sold within hours of my email to them. Bummer

Ordered right size, resend is not at the company! 

[gfarina55]

Does anyone know if 2nd accepts exchanges? Just got these from 2nd, awesome service, but they are unfortunately a size too small, WAY smaller than my 17oz. 711s in the same tag size. SO, now I have no less than 3 pairs of Samurai's I'm looking to swap! If anyone's interested, measurements are below and I'd swap these for something a bit bigger in the thigh and rise, or sell for $250 (I paid $300 w/shipping).

 

Tag: 32

Waist: 16"
FR: 9.5"
BR 13"
Thigh: 11"
Knee: 8.5"
Hem: 7.75"

Edited November 18, 2017 by gfarina55

[chantheman]

hidden rivet no more on my 0500's

[swiss-jeansfreak]

1 hour ago, chantheman said:

hidden rivet no more on my 0500's

I can't stop watching those beauties! 

I would love to see them in real some day

Keep them alive for ever

[swiss-jeansfreak]

2 hours ago, gfarina55 said:

Does anyone know if 2nd accepts exchanges? Just got these from 2nd, awesome service, but they are unfortunately a size too small, WAY smaller than my 17oz. 711s in the same tag size. SO, not I have no less than 3 pairs of Samurai's I'm looking to swap! If anyone's interested, measurements are below and I'd swap these for something a bit bigger in the thigh and rise, or sell for $250 (I paid $300 w/shipping).

 

Tag: 32

Waist: 16"
FR: 9.5"
BR 13"
Thigh: 11"
Knee: 8.5"
Hem: 7.75"

 

Awreome looking jeans!!

[gfarina55]

Thanks swiss-jeansfreak. I'm kicking myself that I can't get the measurements right on 3 of my 4 pairs of Samurais....someone help me out!

[swiss-jeansfreak]

I would love to get them, but no money

Edited November 19, 2017 by swiss-jeansfreak

[chantheman]

anyone looking for a pair of geisha denim s710's? im too fat for my pair

Edited November 23, 2017 by chantheman

[Cucoo]

dito for me and my size 30.

31 would probably be great for me, but someone would need to take the 30 off my hands first

Edited November 23, 2017 by Cucoo

[nizzel55]

Anyone here familiar with the S710XX 19oz .

I am thinking of grabbing me a pair. But am thinking about sizing shrinking after soak / wash.

I opted for a pair of 34 in both my PBJs. And I have been using 33 in my IHs.

 

How much do they shrink. SHould I go up a size or go tts.`?

 

[FreeCharlesManson]

On 5/8/2017 at 11:25 AM, FreeCharlesManson said:

picked these up from Americaya in Ueno on a trip to Tokyo. I'm really impressed with how hairy and comfortable the denim is. not sure when I'll get around to wearing them seriously because i want to fade my fullcounts first. i was playing with many different cuff styles because i'm not sure how i want to wear these yet. i'm pretty happy with the fit of these jeans because the thigh is so much wider than all my other pairs and thee taper is very comfortable. if i haven't grown by the time i start wearing these daily i might wash again with a machine dry in order to shrink the length and soften them up. the Japanese man said they could shrink up to 8inches not sure if that's happened to anyone but i imagine he meant cm.

Measurements:

pre-wash

waist: 77cm

front rise: 28cm

back rise: 36cm

thigh: 29cm

knee: 22cm

leg opening: 20cm

inseam: 89cm

post-wash

waist: 72cm

front rise: 26cm

back rise: 36cm

thigh: 28cm

knee: 21cm

leg opening: 19cm

inseam: 86cm

 

 

mine didn't shrink a crazy amount but i only cold washed in the washing machine. i'm usually a 29 or a 30 waist. probably could've gotten away with a 29 + some stretch