Roy. (expurgated edition)

[roy6]

^like hot incestuous twins?

[Dr_Heech]

you fuckers what do you mean by this? just tell me hes up to something a 150 buck roy again ill get in line

I think it's fair to say that Roy will not be making any more $150 jeans, unless He's started a used section that i'm not aware of....?

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[edmond]

positive thinking is the key to a 150 roy jeans brand new

[Dr_Heech]

positive thinking is the key to a 150 roy jeans brand new

hmm...that and a time-machine. If i was you I'd cop a pair now before the next price increase (....?)

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[edmond]

nah no more it wont go higher id rather get a 29 oz sam than a roy or something else im just jumpin on the fad waggon

[Joseph Hill]

Ooh la la! That ees fabrique requisite, no?

[fre-co]

I spy black seed.....

[grooveholmes]

the longer cotton fibers seem to indicate that it is indeed black seed denim... whoa

[Medine]

I want my bed spread to made out of black seed stuff. I wonder if ill get sick fadez on the sheets where I lay and on the pillows where i lay my head

[robbie]

That denim is B E A utiful, holy crap!

Can't rep right now Paul and roy6...

[Maynard Friedman]

If demonito was a taxi driver and a policeman got into his cab, would he say: "Where to, cop?"

[almostnice]

on a sidenote,i wouldnt mind switching from buttonholes to buttholes.faster and easier to speak,dont you all agree?

[Medine]

^buttholes are always superior to buttonholes

[grooveholmes]

that's what she said.

[robbie]

^^^

sadly, that is not what she said

[roy6]

. .

[robbie]

nice,

way to keep this thread on topic, and full of Roy goodness.

[Happy Hooligan]

Roy6... what model machine is that?

[roy6]

^HH, I'm not sure, I think ROY said it was from the '60s, I posted pics of the whole thing in this thread some time ago. Around page 12/14 maybe?

[roy6]

Not dry yet? Why no fit pics?

[ranonranonarat]

Not dry yet? Why no fit pics?

its only been 22 hours. getting antsy aren't you?

[roy6]

^first gen2 ROYs on the thread, no?

[Paul T]

[paulduke04]

oh man, i thought the e-beef was deliciously funny. Anyways, the denim pics were gloriously droolworthy. and yes, denim bedding (someone mentioned it) would be awesome if it were black seed chambray fabric. One stupid question: these recent pics by Paul T and roy6, are they pics of fabric that's in Mr Slaper's possession? I couldn't understand some of the terminology by PaulT, let alone the insinuation that Mr Slaper's fabric (which may or may not be black seed denim) is "related" to PaulT's fabric. I simply got very confused.

[Paul T]

oh man, i thought the e-beef was deliciously funny. Anyways, the denim pics were gloriously droolworthy. and yes, denim bedding (someone mentioned it) would be awesome if it were black seed chambray fabric. I couldn't understand some of the terminology by PaulT, let alone the insinuation that Mr Slaper's fabric (which may or may not be black seed denim) is "related" to PaulT's fabric.

Ask your Qs about the fabric terminology and the answers will be yours, sir.

[scout233]

OK, i will ask some questions.. forgive my ignorance.. but this k87211 denim is obviously labeled "black seed" in one of your pics. Are there many different denims that use the black seed cotton? Is this some new special creation?.. That machine behind the denim in the other pics looks like Roy's belt loop making machine... is there another "roy" that beat the real Roy to this denim??

You also wrote about the indigo color.. what is different in the dyeing process with this denim vs other indigo denim?

[paulduke04]

well, i looked up those terminology on your denim glossary website - great site btw. but I guess none of u guys will confirm whether Mr Slaper's fabric is also KV 87211 or black seed.... clever clever

[Paul T]

As far as I know there are no raw loomstate denims that use black seed, although Cone do supply it in a more processed state to a few makers (Sanforized, maybe?). On this denim it's used on the fill yarn; the warp yarn is a shorter-staple, which is why you get some hairiness.

I will have to check on the number of dips etc on the warp yarn, I would hope to have an indepth interview with the man who'll know, in perhaps 10 days. These photos are of a work in progress... a possibility... a dream.

[scout233]

does "loomstate" simply mean as the fabric is after being made on the loom.. with no further processing/treatment?

[Paul T]

does "loomstate" simply mean as the fabric is after being made on the loom.. with no further processing/treatment?

Exactly. The most common treatment is singeing; there are other stabilising processes, including skewing (to eliminate legtwist) and other starching or sizeing, which makes the fabric stiffer, easier to cut and work with. For that reason, this fabric probably shrinks more than other similar denims.

And of course, that's hard for a maker - if a fabric shrinks in a different way it means you have to look/revise all your patterns.