Samurai Jeans

[Foxy2]

they need to make a 35oz. seriously though, 25oz? that is crazy. does anyone know if they make special looms for this crazy thick denim?

They use their standard looms (which are mostly vintage and often rigged to the point of becoming a wholly customized loom) and take thicker yarns where possible and/or double the yarns. Often, heavier oz denim means more yarns, not necessarily heavier yarns.

Slowing down the machines further might be required in order to reduce friction and amount of yarn breakage. On shuttle looms this will increase the number of shuttle changes as the shuttle itself will hold less yardage of weft yarn.

I have been told that it is trickier to produce these heavier, pure cotton twills and have them stay stable and durable throughout the finishing (including possible sanforizing) as well the washing of the finished garment.

Edited March 17, 2013 by Foxy2

[saintkeat]

They could leave it loomstate. Why bother sanforizing. But the other production issue would be construction. You'll need custom rivets and buttons, custom sewing machine, maybe even a custom riveting machine. When Naked and Famous did their 32oz pair, needles broke so often, they had to keep production small and never again since the mill wouldn't do it anymore. It's very dangerous when sewing needles break on high powered machines.

Besides what is with this heavy weight race? When has it been about the weight?

@whatever123 - actually this isn't really high contrast fades. The reason why despite my active lifestyle it isn't high contrast, is because this pair is made with E.L.S cotton. Namely Pima. Soft fabrics make contrast fades difficult since natural creasing without additional starching takes a while. Yes the bottom is from stacking. Thanks!

[Foxy2]

They could leave it loomstate. Why bother sanforizing.

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My point is that the whole construction does have to produce a stable, washable fabric (with or without further treatment) - just leaving the fabric loom state is not feasible option if the washed fabric falls apart.

(Unless somebody gives a shit about their customers - selling jeans that can not be washed...)

[Quoise1203]

I recently put away my Roy RS04s and started wearing my Samurai s5000vx (17oz) again. After a few more weeks of wear and a wash I thought the progress was worth a post. These were purchased in late Jan/early Feb 2012. There is probably 7 months effective wear on these, as well as three or four washes.

Before:

After

[nakamoto]

I still owe you some measurements though

if i dont machine wash it, it won't shrink as much compared to soaks right ?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

right...just soaking won't shrink the denim as much as a machine wash would

[efujobu1]

Hey guys. Quick question, I want to order a pair of Sams from Kaizoku pirates and wanted to know if Yuichi (sorry if I misspelled his name) has a specific email or is it just [email protected]?

Also, size down 1 for 5000VX and TTS for 710's correct?

Thanks in advance.

[Flash]

Yes that's the email .... And sizing info is correct ( at least it's what is recommended but its allways a good thing to ask for measurements if your unsure )

[efujobu1]

Thanks Flash. I sent an e-mail yesterday so we'll see.

[zippopotamme]

For me tts is perfect for the 710

[Max Power]

I wouldn't size down in the 5000s neither.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I think SD1 is doable. Depends on the fit you are after. All my 5000 are sized down one, yet they fit slighty different because they were different from the start/actual size

[Max Power]

Yeah, but as they sit on the hip, at least I need the "normal" waist.

[shego]

I currently wear 666-IH and Skull 5010 both in 33w. If I was to go 710 or s003jp would 33 work? I'm also fairly tall at 6'3..

[mange]

I wear the same size 30 in booth Skull 5010XX and S5000VX so I think you should be fine in a w33. I am an inch shorter than you and cuff about 1.5 inch after 2 initial hot soaks, so the length should be no problem. But I do believe that the Skulls are a bit longer in the legs. In IH 461S I wear a w31, from what I remember they fitted me tighter in the waist than booth the Skulls and Samurais.

[efujobu1]

Hey guys! I've decided to go with the S5000VX buying from 2nd.

So is it SD1 or TTS? They don't take raw measurements because of past problems with other customers. My natural waist is 30 inches and the inseam on my other denim is 30. Is it still the standard 3 inches lost post wash? I was wanting to get it hemmed to a 33 inseam for a post wash 30 inches.

Judging by BIG raw measurements, I could fit a 29 if the waist doesn't shrink down to a 29.

Thanks for the help guys. Google translate isn't making it any easier for me.

[Rightyow77]

My size 28 21oz S5000VX shrunk to a 29 and stretched out to a 30 if that helps at all.

Thighs are 11 on the dot, rise is 10.2, knee is 8, hem 7.75

[swiss-jeansfreak]

21oz s5000s 2 months of everyday wear, including construction work day job. decided not to enter the heavy weight competition but i am gonna keep the evo coming

One of my top favorites over the last month seen here on this thread.

Congrats to this great and fast work. Can't wait to see some new updates!!

[Rightyow77]

Here are how my S5000VX look sized down one.

[ksisouk]

Edited March 21, 2013 by ksisouk

[geL-]

I need an info about sizing of a future purchase: a s710xx (the 15th anniversary edition) so i don't know if it's the same measurement as the lot13.

I take all my jean as a 35".

I have a Momotaro701 tag 34, a MomotaroxTate+yoko tag 33 and other jeans.

I was thinking to take my samurai S710XX in tag 35...

What do you think guys?

[cmo]

^are there any pics of this jean available yet??

[Jared_Lee]

s710

3 months of daily wear

1 cold soak

1 cold wash

size 30

[Mr Black]

Nice looking belt.

I'm also at (very nearly) 3 months with my 710's. You combs/whiskers are quite a bit more pronounced than mine. Must work harder

[Jared_Lee]

Nice looking belt.

I'm also at (very nearly) 3 months with my 710's. You combs/whiskers are quite a bit more pronounced than mine. Must work harder

Thanks, Black. I ride a bike when my knee isn't giving me trouble (another gripe for another day) and that definitely contributes to strong combs and whiskers. The belt is from Jean Shop. I love that its size ebbs and flows with mine. Haha. I hope to see some pics of yours soon.

[laz]

I'm a 70 year old guy and know little of this jean world. I have a pair of Sugar Cane Hawaiis that I love. Does anyone know of a Samurai jean with a relaxed fit, high rise and straight leg that might work for me. I saw a painters jean on BiG site that might work. Any help would be great.

Thanx, laz

[coleslawyum]

S0510, S0500, 5000VX, 3000VX, even S0110XJ, pretty much all of Samurai's regular range except for 001, 003, S0710, Geisha and limited editions.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

If the rise is an important part then I'd take the S0510XX and then the 3000VX

[Rightyow77]

Sized true or up one the S5000VX is by far my favorite out of Samurais offerings. Nice clean indigo on the 21oz, roomy thigh and a straight leg wit just a smig of taper.

[Max Power]

But the 5000 is medum rised, so the ones b_f named are probably better.

I have some good news, these are on my way to me:

19 oz denim in the 500 Cut, Limited to 50 pairs. Crossing fingers that they fit.

Edited March 22, 2013 by Max Power