Vintage Sweatshirts

[Broark]

You know me too well.  No I'm actually going to hold off, maybe next fall.

[Double 0 Soul]

Remember this Fullcount sweat that you gave me years ago Ryan?

Fresh out the wash

..as you can see, ive worn it a fair amount

 

[Flash]

Nice one mate , bought that on my first trip to Tokyo ... Was in the shop and everything and still bought the wrong size 

[Double 0 Soul]

Well.. it went to a good home

[ReverendGlasseye]

I've been on the hunt for some short sleeve sweatshirts and am wondering if anyone has experience with the Todd Snyder + Champion short sleeve sweatshirts? I'm a big fan of the fit from the recent iterations of the loopwheeled sweatshirts by RMC; i.e. short hem, high armholes, thick ribbing on the hem, etc.

[SmokeStackLightning]

@ReverendGlasseye I am wearing one as I type this. 

The sleeves aren't all baggy, and aren't too tight either. Don't expect ultra high quality softness, but I like mine a lot. 

Fit is fairly relaxed, and a touch on the longer side when compared to Japanese brands and models. 

Edited March 27, 2020 by SmokeStackLightning

[JDelage]

Interesting 1933 vintage sweat on Clutch Cafe here:

https://clutch-cafe.com/collections/vintage-clothing-and-accessories/products/aaf-pocket-sweatshirt

Note the measurements: 22" P2P and 22.5" shoulders...

[MJF9]

^ eye watering price! 

[Duke Mantee]

Sorry there’s a couple of re-posts but I thought this might be interesting 

[SuperJackle]

On 3/26/2020 at 6:46 PM, ReverendGlasseye said:

I've been on the hunt for some short sleeve sweatshirts and am wondering if anyone has experience with the Todd Snyder + Champion short sleeve sweatshirts? I'm a big fan of the fit from the recent iterations of the loopwheeled sweatshirts by RMC; i.e. short hem, high armholes, thick ribbing on the hem, etc.

I have two TS x champion sweats and I really like the fit on both. I would say the quality is a little below reigning champ, but I’ve been wearing these more than my loopwheel stuff. Can’t seem to find a good fit from any of the Japanese brands, personally. 
 

I should mention, though that both of mine are long sleeve, so no experience wi the short sleeve iteration. On both of mine, I would say the armholes aren’t very high. One reason why I like the fit so much; I personally can’t stand high armholes. 

Edited April 3, 2020 by SuperJackle

[Mr Black]

Cushman do a decent short sleeved sweat.

[MJF9]

@Mr Black looks good... where to cop? Had a quick goggle and not much coming back.

[Mr Black]

Got that off yahoo auctions a few months back. I wouldn’t say there are loads on there, but you get a couple every now & then.

[Duke Mantee]

A bit of Nihono-Scottish Freewheelers customisation 

[Lendo]

Anyone have experience with MocT sweathshirts?:
 

https://moct-gr7.stores.jp/items/5bc1b4f5a6e6ee58ac00054c

[Mr Black]

About to list a stack of sweatshirts on Ebay. DM me if you want first dibs:

 

Warehouse oatmeal size 40

Cushman Burgundy size M

Cushman oatmeal 'Havana Ducks, S

Cushman Indy 500 zip front, S (more like XS)

McCoys Ballpark 'Brooklyn', M

Pearl Diver 'BHS', Large (fits European medium)

Barns yellow 'Caro', M

Barns Blue 'Hartmans'.  38/40

Green Cheswick 'St Mary's'. M

Blue Vintage Champion 'John Carrol Blue streaks' L (fits medium)

[indigoeagle]

I remember, that there was disappointment among some people, when Buzz Rickson's changed their sweatshirts, that the fit was longer and also that the V-stitching wasn't a proper inlay.
I'm not sure, I understand this correctly.
Looking at this picture, it seems, that it is indeed a differend piece of fabric, that is sewn in.
Or does it only look that way?
Or did BR change it again?

[Dr_Heech]

^l can tell you that l own 2 x original Buzz sweats, before they changed the fit, and they have no 'V' inlay. The V is false and if you look inside the sweatshirt you can see this better. Not sure about the newer, Mk 2 version.

[indigoeagle]

Ah, then it was the opposite? That in the old, shorter versions they didn't have the 'V' inlay, but in the new ones, they do?
Does it look the same in the old ones like in this pic?
The pic is from the current BR offered by Peggs&Son.

Edited November 13, 2020 by indigoeagle

[julian-wolf]

I don’t have either version, but it’s really not clear from that photo whether the V is a true inlay or just a patch added on top of the main body panel—as Dr. Heech says, it would be helpful to see a photo from the inside (I’d also be interested in knowing the answer)

[Maynard Friedman]

It’s a v-shaped patch stitched on top.

 

[Dr_Heech]

9 hours ago, indigoeagle said:

Ah, then it was the opposite? That in the old, shorter versions they didn't have the 'V' inlay, but in the new ones, they do?
Does it look the same in the old ones like in this pic?
The pic is from the current BR offered by Peggs&Son.

@indigoeagle It was the opposite.  The old one's were shorter/boxier and had the panel V, as per Maynard's photo. The newer version are slimmer/longer in body and sleeve, and that photo suggests a separate piece of material, but without further proof it's still all speculation at this point.

[JDelage]

What's the difference between a 2-needle and a 4-needle construction? (Apart from: one use 2 needles, the other 4...)

Warehouse has both options with a material price difference. Obviously they repro different eras, but I'm curious how one would perceive the difference:

4-needles: https://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=144686236

2-needles: https://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=144686430

Thanks!

[julian-wolf]

By the looks of it: The four-needle machine is a flatlock where two panels of fabric are overlapped & fed into the machine directly, with no fold, resulting in serging on both sides (similar to modern yoga pants, or to the side seams on TFH or SdA loopwheeled tees). The two-needle machine serges over one side after the two panels have been connected face to face, resulting in a fairly flat seam with serging only on the inside (similar to the shoulder seams of many T-shirts, or to Stevenson or Deluxeware sweats). Presumably, the latter takes two passes through different machines, possibly explaining the price difference—but I don’t really know how these things work, so take that with a grain of salt.

[JDelage]

What's the consensus on Loop & Weft?

[Geeman]

No personal experience but they look great. Pirates has stocked them for years but not sure if they just being hyped as the next big thing now?

[lefty]

I’ve loved them since the first time I handled their shirts at Blue in Green, probably around the time of the first Inspiration Brooklyn show. Everything I’ve handled from them is soft and comfortable. 
None of it has the heavy construction of something like a McCoys tee or sweat (which is also great, but has that sporty feel about it).

The Tompkins sweat is very thick - not dense and heavy, but very puffy. The deep texture makes it puffy, soft, and warm. 
The twill face military crew is just another piece from L&W that makes me love the different fabrics they develop for their garments. I’m also a big fan of their colors. They have some blue, black, and white, but I prefer the subtle and handsome reds, oranges, and yellows. 

Edited December 2, 2020 by lefty

[Double 0 Soul]

Another 12mts wear on ^that FC sweat... time for a wash

Vintage Stussy ive just pulled out from one of my boxes of work clothes

M&S thermal starting to get a bit threadbare...

Edited May 4, 2021 by Double 0 Soul

[cultpop 0217]

Just finding this thread. 

Working backwards now. 

Here are a few sweatshirts.  

A very beat RRL zip up.

And my favorite vintage short sleeve. 

[cultpop 0217]

Just finished reading the whole thread. Great info and collections! 

Here is a much cheaper retro styled zip up hoodie from Bronson Manufacturing that I recently gifted to my son. (A replacement has already been ordered)

Nice heavy French terry, deep ribs, great fit and vintage styling but the construction is much more modern and simple than the other repro brands that cost 3 to 6 times more. Very similar to some RRL I have had and for the price this  really can't be beat.