Denim Blunders, Reflections and General Nonsense.

[MJF9]

@superfuture hey mate, Sufu is running super slow, with access / 'bad gateway' problems... anything that can be done to fix it?  Thanks a lot

 

 

[superfuture]

Trying to get tech to sort it out... not great timing...
Suspect we are under another massive attack emanating from China and Singapore - based on stats.

Probably going to need to do a major software update, so it might be like this over the next week or so unless it miraculously resolves by itself... 
Meh.
 

[superfuture]

Now it is lightning fast for me and we haven't touched it... might have been some networking issue?
How's it working in your geos??

[Geeman]

Fine for me in the centre of the civilised universe......

[MJF9]

It's going OK again this morning - I thought you'd fixed it - fingers crossed

[superfuture]

HEYO... WE ARE WORKING ON AN URGENT SOFTWARE UPGRADE STARTING OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS. PROBABLY BEST NOT TO POST AS POSTS SOMETIMES GET LOST IN THESE UPDATES IF THE FLOATING IPs AREN'T IN SYNC. MIGHT BE SOME OTHER WEIRDNESS - AS ALWAYS. WE ARE UPGRADING ON SANDBOX FIRST SO IT MIGHT TAKE TIME...

btw Happy Xmas 🎅

[tg76]

Happy holidays

[Well27]

 My present this year was a toolbox. The manufacture is on point for this forum

[Maynard Friedman]

Merry Christmas folks!

[bod]

Happy Christmas .. belch!

 

[Double 0 Soul]

When I’m at home, I usually buy bread from the bakery / sandwich shop up the road, it’s £1.75 for a small loaf but after a day or two it’s either been eaten or it’s getting a bit stale / only good for toasting.. being Boxing Day, the bakery isn’t open so I’ve walked to the corner shop for bread.

it goes out of date in February.. it’s fkin December  .. is this just a loaf of preservatives? It doesn’t even taste like bread 

[Maynard Friedman]

What are the ingredients? It only needs flour, water, yeast and salt.

[Double 0 Soul]

I'll have a look when i go back in the house.. probably formaldehyde

[Maynard Friedman]

All the East London postcodes too I’d imagine!

[Double 0 Soul]

Forum is crazy fast but seems to be tweaking out a bit after the update..

 

1) 'last page' & '5 hours ago..ect' links (for instance) are often dead..^  on the first click

.. (go back) then on the second attempt they do work?

2) I uploaded multiple images above 2MB with no issues..

..then the forum blocked me from uploading a single image

.. i tried uploading the image to flickr but the flickr links when viewed in preview were just txt links not images?

I circumvented the issue by screengrabbing the image in flickr, saving it to images (smaller than 2MB) and reposting

Very minor quibles.. the forum is running fast af for the first time in weeks so thanks you @superfuture.. 👍 👍 👍

[Broark]

Noticing the same quirks as 00, also the font and other artifacts on mobile browsers seems slightly larger than before. And it’s not my phone, just specifically the forum.

[shredwin_206]

Sufu has been crazy slow and glitchy for me for weeks. Sometimes won’t even load 

 

[Geeman]

Went to visit the new R&H store a couple days ago. That's a prime piece of real estate!

Lovely layout, beautiful shop. Left empty handed though, was between sizes on the shirt I wanted. 

Pic from outside the store and a bonus pic of me having arrived 5 mins before opening.. 

Highland 2000

Barbour 

Denime 

Redwing 

[Cold Summer]

Adding thoughts to the discussion from the Sugar Cane thread re: wide pants and Gen Z style:

I find it hilarious that The Style amongst Kids These Days seems to be replicating Y2K era fashion (or lack thereof.) The super baggy jeans/pants thing was cool when I was in middle school, and already unbearably cringe maybe 2-3 years later. I know grown-ups are supposed to react with disgust at the style of Kids These Days, but when the style was something you went through yourself and found embarrassing almost immediately afterward, it's even less convincing. I give it one or two years before these kids sober up and everyone starts dressing like they're in The Strokes again.

[space_cowboy]

@Cold Summer As someone with big thighs, I welcome the offering of all the wide/fuller cuts that Japanese brands have begun offering as of late. My FC 0105's look like a normal straight leg jean on me. Emo fashion was huge in the midwest when I was in high school...I have friends who still wear skinny jeans, and say they always will. I mean, most of the people I see walking around in my city are still wearing slim/tapered pants. I live near a trendy area, and sure, there are some Gen Z'ers who fit in this trend you're describing. Who really cares? I think baggy pants, skinny pants, and everything in between can look good if styled well. Personally, I don't think I can ever go back to wearing super slim jeans, but I'm also not going full on JNCO.  😂 

[Double 0 Soul]

It’s just young folk recycling fashions.. when I was a young teenager at the end of the 1980s folks recycled 60s psychedelia / flower power aesthetic with the second summer of love and daisy age.. (folks who lived it 20yrs earlier probably raised an eyebrow) the 90s broke and the 70s were rehashed.. My Mrs wore Wrangler flares and shell toe sneakers for 2yrs straight.. the 80s were rehashed around 15yrs ago which gave way to the 90s c2018 and here we are .. 3yrs into Y2K 

It’s 2010 next meaning the heritage dudes are either going to look cool again or tragic.. 

Edited January 6 by Double 0 Soul

[ATWM]

The painted on emo trends of the Midwest in the 00’s were the worst sartorial thing I’ve ever seen, personally. Worse than JNCOs and worse than the flannel/skinny jean/redwing uniform that couldn’t be used to do actual logging.

I grew up in the Chicago area and scene, but - and I still feel like this - the fashion sense in Chicago - I’m generalizing for fun here - is always a little bit jacked, always has been. It’s never quite right, it always looks like it cares too much, if it cares at all. Ill fitting boxy suits were the norm in the financial district well into the days where a tailored look felt almost compulsory in most places, and then if it wasn’t that it was super tight, painted on, ass splitting cuts full of elastic, with long hair plastered across the face to match the fabric’s sheened texture. No concerns given to a beer gut spilling out over the top of the belt or under the bottom of the t shirt hem.

I’m not there anymore but years ago the hip neighborhoods all felt like they were full of people who were trying on certain styles and pushing them to the absolute brink, but that no Williamsburg music would really be caught dead in. A sense of balance was nonexistent. 

Of course there were a few exceptions, and this coming from a guy who would not claim to have any fashion answers, but that’s always how I’ve seen Chicago style, so I raise an eyebrow when trendy areas of the city are used as a barometer - even in comparison to some smaller cities. 

I’ll say that the massive college campus I live near actually offers a wide diversity of styles and I love it. Some take the wide stuff to sloppy extremes, some students are just in the classic don’t give a shit pajamas or athleisure wear, but a lot of them strike a good balance and I think look a lot better than my cohort at a different big midwestern university two decades ago.

[smoothsailor]

I was waiting for a red light near a school just before the holidays, and there were about 50 kids crossing.

all wearing the same fit. Black puffer jacket light jeans and mostly white Air Force 1 sneakers. For a minute I thought I was in some flash mob or video.

But then I realized it’s their uniform to fit in.

my boy goes to another school, bit of an alternative school system (vrije school)

when I need to be there once in a while it’s refreshing to see the kids there doing all kinds of crazy wears, and super wide pants.

[Maynard Friedman]

At my son’s school, they all seem to dress in a strange ‘uniform’ of black blazer, grey trousers, white shirt, striped tie, grey jumper and black shoes. Literally everyone, no individuality or originality at all!

Anyway, back in my youth, rough animal skins were all the rage, with long hair, dirty faces and bare feet. I’m still waiting for this style to make a comeback…

[space_cowboy]

3 hours ago, ATWM said:

 No concerns given to a beer gut spilling out over the top of the belt or under the bottom of the t shirt hem.

How dare you, I was a skinny emo 😁

 

4 hours ago, ATWM said:

 

I’m not there anymore but years ago the hip neighborhoods all felt like they were full of people who were trying on certain styles and pushing them to the absolute brink, but that no Williamsburg music would really be caught dead in

 

What neighborhoods are you referring to? People of the same age living in Lakeview vs. Logan Square vs. Goldcoast typically dress very differently. Also - don't throw shade at our music scene! it's always been pretty robust

[Double 0 Soul]

I've had a f'kin shite day today!.. i got up this morning and my bike lights had ran out of battery over the Christmas break.. so not only was it -5C and icy as hell.. i had no lights

Walked to Tesco this afternoon to get an onion, some lardons and a small ciabatta for tea.. got back to work and the cops had evacuated the area due to a suspected bomb.. i was ouside for hours.. my hands were fucking freezing.. the bomb squad did a controlled explosion at 2.09pm.. by this time i was mad behind where i wanted to be

Left work at 6.30 (having been there since 6am) and took my car battery charger home.. i hardly ever use the car so when the cold weather comes, it struggles to start.. i was going to take the battery off tonight and leave it charging in the shed till the weekend..

Alas.. halfway home, i gets a flat tyre on my bike so i've had to shoulder the bike at the Botanical Gardens and walk a further 30mins home in the rain and snow swapping shoulders every few mins.. lobbed the bike in the boot of the car (i'll fix the puncture tomorrow) ..and keeping my fingers crossed that i can get it started in the morning.. Hufff!

After a long day, i started making dinner ..which actually turned out quite well.

I cooked some tomatoes down with lots of garlic, olive oil and a finely chopped onion

Chucked in some linguine and cooked a bag of mussels with the rest of the onion, white wine and peppercorns

Yum!

I've just sat down.. 15hrs after i got up.. i'll be going to bed in a couple of hours

Edited January 6 by Double 0 Soul

[ATWM]

1 hour ago, space_cowboy said:

How dare you, I was a skinny emo 😁

 

What neighborhoods are you referring to? People of the same age living in Lakeview vs. Logan Square vs. Goldcoast typically dress very differently. Also - don't throw shade at our music scene! it's always been pretty robust

In my time it was more Wicker Park, Logan Square, Ukrainian Village, and then also Pilsen, Little Village to name a few - to some extent Andersonville, Roger’s Park, Edgewater. Lakeview or the Goldcoast wouldn’t have counted. Too expensive to be interesting, really. 

Not directly throwing shade at the tunes. There was and is great music coming out of Chicago. But the emo scene (to me) and the sort of blend of pop and punk that preceded it and dominated the Metro for days on end was just so full of the worst of it all, with the costumes to match. And I hate to say it, but I’d generally put the best of Detroit a lot higher than the best of Chicago. Though I love me some House, love Tortoise etc. Hefty Records, Thrill Jockey, there was good stuff - not dismissing that. Just my crank opinion 😃 

[superfuture]

1 hour ago, Double 0 Soul said:

I've had a f'kin shite day today!..

Congratulations. You've just won a 6 months free supertalk subscription!

[Double 0 Soul]

8 hours ago, superfuture said:

Congratulations. You've just won a 6 months free supertalk subscription!

Woohoo! .. restorative karma 

it’ll make fixing this..

..a little sweeter 

Thank you @superfuture  that’s very kind of you!

[Cold Summer]

For whatever it's worth, I'm not advocating a return to 2000's Scene fashion and sprayed on pants... man, I lived through that one too, and while it's not as embarrassing as the super baggy pants and frosted tip hairstyles of 7th grade, it does feel very "of its time," I guess. For anybody who sees my pics in the WAYWT threads and such, my style is very far from that. My take on the super slim fitting clothes thing: it only works when you're short and skinny, because it makes you look taller: in that case, the look actually can solve a problem, so to speak. When you're already tall and skinny - like me - it just accentuates your most conspicuous physical deviation from the norm and makes you look exaggeratedly lanky. And if you're not skinny, regardless of height, it accentuates the least desirable aspect of your physique. This is why the streetwear look that took off around 2016-17 took the sprayed-on pants but with loose, long, layered tops, as a way to obscure or conceal that. However, it just ended up doing something nearly as bad by making everybody look top-heavy with the impression of a weirdly long torso and short, skinny legs, and died out after a couple years outside of Evangelical Christian praise bands where guitarists with pedalboards elaborate enough to operate the International Space Station have inexplicably clung to this look.

I like that Japanese brands are making some more relaxed fits now - it's a huge improvement over the "relaxed taper" fits that were all the rage from like 2014-early 2020s in the raw denim realm. But while maybe Zoomer kids in exaggerated super baggy clothing might be inspiring, say, TCB to make the loose version of the 50s cut, from what I've seen these new loose fits are far less dramatic than the contemporary trends and seem quite acceptable to my taste.