Denim Blunders, Reflections and General Nonsense.

[Alec Leamas]

4 hours ago, aho said:

Always interested! 😆

Considering Warehouse 1001XX(1000XX) 1947's which were recently restocked on the WH website as well 

I missed those in my size! Hence the Denime 47's instead 🙃

[mlwdp]

Bought my first and hopefully my last pair of white denim today.  Don’t see too much of this color on the board here so it’ll be interesting how these will look on me.  If they’re good, gonna dirty them up lol.

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

21 hours ago, mlwdp said:

Bought my first and hopefully my last pair of white denim today.  Don’t see too much of this color on the board here so it’ll be interesting how these will look on me.  If they’re good, gonna dirty them up lol.

They are much more tricky to wear when clean then when dirty. I’ve been wearing mine as well this summer. What did you get? 

[mlwdp]

@HopethisoneisnttakenPhigvel canvas carpenter pants.  

[Hopethisoneisnttaken]

17 hours ago, mlwdp said:

@HopethisoneisnttakenPhigvel canvas carpenter pants.  

Nice. Waiting for pics 

[mlwdp]

2 hours ago, Hopethisoneisnttaken said:

Nice. Waiting for pics 

Every time I try to buy a pair of white denim from Japan, no matter the brand, they sell out quick.  The pair I bought was the last pair too.  I can see this color is very popular there.
 

If I didn’t get these, the next pair would’ve been some Levi’s white denim.  Todd Snyder sells a MIJ pair but for $300 that’s too much and I’m not interested in the brand.

[mlwdp]

Currently watching the news regarding typhoon Ampal near Japan.

[Alec Leamas]

@mlwdp, it looks to be projected to turn away? I know next to nothing about typhoons / tornadoes / hurricanes (something I am grateful for, honestly), but it seems like it's going to be a close call!

[mlwdp]

The only thing I’ve seen this far is heavy rain hitting Tokyo right now but nothing much.  Seems to be hitting the eastern upper part harder.

[reallypeacedoff]

Some of the flat lays of fades I have seen as of late, had me wondering what on earth do the fits look like to achieve these fades. Now that I have seen some...

Sorry, but does this look good?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Well, there are certainly people out there liking this fit. But probably not many from Sufu  

[Alec Leamas]

4 hours ago, reallypeacedoff said:

Some of the flat lays of fades I have seen as of late, had me wondering what on earth do the fits look like to achieve these fades. Now that I have seen some...

Sorry, but does this look good?

To be completely fair...there are elements of this that I like - not necessarily the look itself but the commitment to it.

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

If a picture could embody much of what I personally don’t find appealing about denim community/culture - explicitly and implicitly - this is one of them.

Perhaps it’s the case here, but the only way I would/have worn a fit like that is if I were riding a motorcycle (long since sold), and even then I’m wearing leather up top, not denim.

I get that some people love it - more power to them.

[OutSider]

8 hours ago, reallypeacedoff said:

Some of the flat lays of fades I have seen as of late, had me wondering what on earth do the fits look like to achieve these fades. Now that I have seen some...

Sorry, but does this look good?

No not in any reality. This just looks like bad fitting jacket. I'm not a fan of the style either but that's another thread.

Any other material and that looks like total crap, being demin doesn't excuse the bad fit. I can understand the baggy look and having well defined creases but this isn't it. 

[reallypeacedoff]

The commitment to fades is undoubtedly admirable, but this sort of thing erks me the most about "fading denim." Fit—in my eyes—should be first; the fades come afterward. But when you are only trying to get the "coolest" fades, whatever that means, why would you buy a jacket that's way too tight and looks pretty ridiculous? It really just boils down to tight high contrast fadez, bruh? Not above, but throw in a chambray and a denim shirt underneath in +120-degree weather and 100% humidity to boot, and I gotta question your intelligence at this point. Rolling in mud, not washing the entire year while wearing them literally 24/7 is disgusting. We can ascertain they do not have a girlfriend around, I guess. SuFu has more distinguished tastes, but some people take it too far.

[julian-wolf]

33 minutes ago, reallypeacedoff said:

The commitment to fades is undoubtedly admirable

I’ll throw my doubt in the ring. This sort of approach doesn’t seem much less phony, in the end, than just skipping the middle man and pulling out the sandpaper. (If the end result at least looked cool, that’d be something I guess, but on top of the absurdity of it all this sort of thing is just straight up ugly.)

Edited August 20 by julian-wolf

[Cold Summer]

Did he starch his jacket, roll around in the mud, then hike the hem up to his armpits to make it scrunch up like that? I don't even understand what I'm looking at here, other than that his jacket looks really dirty and gross.

I like high-contrast fades and often go long periods without washing my denim stuff, depending on the garment and season, but it never comes at the expense of basic dignity. If my jeans, jacket, etc. starts to look, feel, or smell dirty, I just wash it. There's plenty of room for individual expressiveness between the extremes of washing your jeans every time you wear them, and never washing even when they look obviously disgusting.

It's one thing if this guy throws on his denim jacket to go to his 9-5 job working on a construction site... but I really doubt that's it.

[julian-wolf]

^ No, I would bet the creasing in the body is from lots of time sitting on a motorcycle

[Cold Summer]

That makes sense. Having spent little time on motorcycles myself, that didn't occur to me.

Am I the only one who's become rather disillusioned with the whole concept of denim contests? I like the updates from SuFu posters in the Indigo Invitational contest. But the way these contests have gone for the last ten years or so, they increasingly feel like a cartoonish caricature encouraging the worst aspects of denim enthusiast culture, which I'm increasingly uninterested in perpetuating. I've had the idea of saving this pair or that for a future contest but I feel like I'm not even going to bother, and just wear whenever I feel like it.

I'm pretty disciplined about focusing on one pair at a time so I don't need a contest to help me actually fade something, which seems to be a common motivation. And I've already got all the cool clothing I'll ever need so prizes don't matter much to me. The problem is that the contest itself seems to motivate and incentivize weird behavior from entrants in an attempt to win, rather than just wearing the denim naturally and seeing how it turns out. On top of that, the free-for-all of different brands, fits, denim weights, and so on makes it hard to have any objective comparison or evaluation. The most interesting contests I've seen were those where everybody wore the same model of jeans, like the SuFu Samurai contest from back in the day.

[julian-wolf]

Any “contest” that doesn’t have every contestant wearing the same pair of jeans is broken from the start, and is bound to get min/maxed to oblivion, with how Instagram culture is amplifying everything these days

I probably sound like a broken record at this point, but I knew the Indigo Invitational was going to be a dud from the moment it became clear it wasn’t in any sense an invitational…and didn’t in fact focus exclusively on indigo jeans

Edited August 21 by julian-wolf

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

The attempt to make a bunch of arcane hobbies into a competition is sort of a social pathology to me. That includes my original arcane hobby - skateboarding. I don't think it very different with denim. Doesn't mean I don't understand getting sucked up in the appeal, but I have enough motivation to not want to be that guy that I've never had the chance to become disillusioned. 

[Maynard Friedman]

I heard they’re going to have a denim-fading event in the next Olympics, at the expense of boxing.

[MJF9]

Oh really... I thought unboxing was taking over from boxing

[Maynard Friedman]

Unboxing is a subset of the denim-fading event. It’s how it begins when competitors receive their new IOC approved jeans at the starting line and rush to the nearest watercourse to soak them.

[youngofthesoonest]

1 hour ago, Maynard Friedman said:

I heard they’re going to have a denim-fading event in the next Olympics, at the expense of boxing.

have Australian breakdancing jokes been over done yet? if not, here's my contribution

If it's anything like breakdancing, I look forward to seeing what comes out of Australia.

Edited August 21 by youngofthesoonest

[aho]

6 hours ago, Cold Summer said:

That makes sense. Having spent little time on motorcycles myself, that didn't occur to me.

Am I the only one who's become rather disillusioned with the whole concept of denim contests? I like the updates from SuFu posters in the Indigo Invitational contest. But the way these contests have gone for the last ten years or so, they increasingly feel like a cartoonish caricature encouraging the worst aspects of denim enthusiast culture, which I'm increasingly uninterested in perpetuating. I've had the idea of saving this pair or that for a future contest but I feel like I'm not even going to bother, and just wear whenever I feel like it.

I'm pretty disciplined about focusing on one pair at a time so I don't need a contest to help me actually fade something, which seems to be a common motivation. And I've already got all the cool clothing I'll ever need so prizes don't matter much to me. The problem is that the contest itself seems to motivate and incentivize weird behavior from entrants in an attempt to win, rather than just wearing the denim naturally and seeing how it turns out. On top of that, the free-for-all of different brands, fits, denim weights, and so on makes it hard to have any objective comparison or evaluation. The most interesting contests I've seen were those where everybody wore the same model of jeans, like the SuFu Samurai contest from back in the day.

Unfortunately gone are the days where it was about sharing an experience and daily lifestyles with a small(er) community while all wearing the same pair. I'd still love to participate in a sufu-style "contest" because I enjoy the camaraderie and seeing the variety of how a specific fabric/cut can evolve, but I think largely the retailers and brands who used to participate no longer have interest in doing so, and we probably couldn't get enough people on sufu alone to justify a smaller production run like ~30 pairs. Happy to join if anyone can prove otherwise! 

[Broark]

+1 to what @aho said, I feel like the old school sufu style contests are sadly dead and gone.
I'd love one last hurrah from some smaller brand (or FW ) to partner with a contest but I just don't think there's much benefit to them unfortunately.
I'd kill for another OA contest!

[reallypeacedoff]

The best contests are, for sure, the ones in which everyone wears the same jeans. There seems to be a subset of denim brands in a particular geographical location that design their denim to be exceptionally fast faders. I wonder if this encourages more people to buy said brands during these yearly anything-goes contests at the expense of longevity. 

Being in the IIY4, I have seen many pairs and thought how? I mean, I don't lose sleep over it. I keep plodding along, and, in the end, it's the eye of the beholder when it comes to judging. I'm not in it for the prizes; having an end goal with only one pair is just fun (especially when you have another four or five in rotation and six or seven unworn pairs  sitting in your wardrobe, oops). The worst-case scenario is that I have a pretty nicely faded pair with a white tee that looks great, already. But in saying that, a one-year competition creates an almost daily anxiety about wearing the same pair for most of the day, every day. Eighteen months always felt like the sweet spot; you could change it up and not feel like you were missing some "fadez."

[aho]

4 hours ago, Broark said:

+1 to what @aho said, I feel like the old school sufu style contests are sadly dead and gone.
I'd love one last hurrah from some smaller brand (or FW ) to partner with a contest but I just don't think there's much benefit to them unfortunately.
I'd kill for another OA contest!

OA and FW are exactly what I had in mind 😂 But I know at least with OA, S&S said they're not into the consumerism of it all (so likely wouldn't sponsor again), and OA are too busy with their normal production. Someone even smaller like https://www.instagram.com/nuu_4862_/ or an OG like Double Volante would be interesting too

[aho]

26 minutes ago, aho said:

OA and FW are exactly what I had in mind 😂 But I know at least with OA, S&S said they're not into the consumerism of it all (so likely wouldn't sponsor again), and OA are too busy with their normal production. Someone even smaller like https://www.instagram.com/nuu_4862_/ or an OG like Double Volante would be interesting too

Ok I take this all back. Rockets would actually be the best for a contest. Anyone interested in a '46 model? Just throwing ideas out there, this doesn't actually exist (yet)
https://www.instagram.com/rockets_toyota/