Levi's Vintage Clothing

[bod]

No need to apologise for dumping denim pics

[bartlebyyphonics]

23 hours ago, bod said:

No need to apologise for dumping denim pics

cheers bro

had been meaning to hold off on sharing til more significant development in the pieces, but given the bad cone news and general discussion on cone denim philosophy thought i'd share to give some concrete evidence

so rly about embarrassment of seeming to go 'look at my {lack of} three month fades'

on a boring ramble: had been trying to wash the two in parallel to keep fade profile vaguely synchronous; these pix tell me to let that boat sail away...

Edited October 22, 2017 by bartlebyyphonics

[HAZARDkid]

My friend got this pair of levis he's trying to date or figure out if they are even authentic. I have no clue so I'd thought I'd just post it here if anyone can help. The original length was 34x40. 

[Maynard Friedman]

Is there a letter or number at the back of the waist button?

[HAZARDkid]

524 I believe. 

[Paul T]

authentic, classic little e with stock control tab. Can't see enough to date definitively but probably late 70s.

[chalisyourpal]

First timer here with a question for the community: I have a pair of LVC 501/1978s rigid/unwashed that I bought online steeply discounted as dead stock earlier this year from Aero Leathers in Scotland. I did this because LVC discontinued the '78s. (I stocked up on my size, 32 x 34, when the '78s were discontinued-- I like the fit best for me.) Comparing them to other unwashed, unworn LVC '78s I have, there are some differences between them: The denim on the ones from Aero is distinctly different; it's slightly bluer and not hairy at all like on the other '78s. There is a larger rise (about an inch more), thigh is slightly larger and the leg openings are about 1/2" larger than the hairy denim pairs unwashed. They also have an extra button in the fly, 4 plus the top button, as opposed to 3. The interior white label says Made in USA but it does not mention Netherlands as a Levis business address. Instead it mentions a Levis Brussels address. Also there is no hang-tie label (with size info, big LVC red logotype, etc.) nor is there a repro vintage envelope in the back pocket. The style number on the pair from Aero is 78501-0001. The other '78s I have (from LVC site, shops and elsewhere) with hairy denim, repro vintage envelope and hang-tie label have the style number 78501-0002. 

Does anyone have any knowledge to impart regarding whether (or not) the pair from Aero are Cone denim, bootleg or not, actually USA-made, etc.? My initial thought is that LVC retooled the '78s at some point and they are a relic from the period before they did. I can upload photos if needed. Thanks. 

[Maynard Friedman]

Those Aero 78s will be genuine but are likely to be an older version than the others you have, that's all, they wouldn't have the envelope, etc . Does the top button have a number stamped on the back? Also, can you take a photo of the inner care tag so we can identify year of production?

[chalisyourpal]

20 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

Those Aero 78s will be genuine but are likely to be an older version than the others you have, that's all, they wouldn't have the envelope, etc . Does the top button have a number stamped on the back? Also, can you take a photo of the inner care tag so we can identify year of production?

Thanks, I appreciate your reply. The number stamped on the back of the Aero '78s top button is 1170. The other '78s (and also a pair '66s) that I have are all 4420.

Attaching the inner care tag image. There's only printing on one side. 

[Maynard Friedman]

^ Thanks for that. Hopefully someone with a bit more nous can confirm but that doesn't seem to have the standard date format within the code. All I can think is that the '0840' refers to 2008 although I have no idea about the 40 part. I have exactly the same on a pair of 1937s I bought second hand in 2011 and I thought the second care tag (there often are 2) with the production date was simply missing, I suppose this still could be the case, but perhaps they are from 2008 too. They also have s 4170 code on the back of the button, are you sure yours is 1170 or perhaps it's 4170 too?

[chalisyourpal]

32 minutes ago, Maynard Friedman said:

^ Thanks for that. Hopefully someone with a bit more nous can confirm but that doesn't seem to have the standard date format within the code. All I can think is that the '0840' refers to 2008 although I have no idea about the 40 part. I have exactly the same on a pair of 1937s I bought second hand in 2011 and I thought the second care tag (there often are 2) with the production date was simply missing, I suppose this still could be the case, but perhaps they are from 2008 too. They also have s 4170 code on the back of the button, are you sure yours is 1170 or perhaps it's 4170 too?

Oh, you're right. It's 4170. These don't have a second care tag, just the one. 

[Cucoo]

The end of Cone inspired me to want to try the 1976, after reading through the relevant posts in this thread consensus is pretty much that they fit TTS, right? I've found a few size charts that seem to point to that, too... could always stretch the waistband when wet Setterman-style I guess...

[Sympathy-For-The-Denim]

yes, the come true to size and will stretch out around one inch after weeks of wear. best for winter since the '76s come with the heaviest denim of the lvc line.

[Cucoo]

Thanks! 

[hudsonjames]

On 10/21/2017 at 9:20 AM, bartlebyyphonics said:

cone is clearly the slow unfolded in terms of color. definitely less hairy, fluffy, showy when first worn... but less drama-queen in terms contrast and pucker...

Thank you for the comparison! The difference is pretty clear between the two, even after only a couple months' wear. Really enjoyed reading these posts.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Anyone interested in these natural indigo LVC 1880s?

https://m.levi.com/DE/de_DE/products/344960000

[lance]

Hey b_F, thanks for the heads up. I’m torn between wanting a pair of Ai dyed Levi’s and spending $400 US FOR a pair of Ai dyed Levi’s!

[MileHighEvertonian]

It gets worse, Lance. They're actually $595 if you buy them stateside: http://www.levi.com/US/en_US/levi/p/344960000

Yikes!

 

[Maynard Friedman]

Presumably that extra cost represents the 'added value' of exporting those jeans (manufactured in the US from cotton grown and spun into denim in the US) to Europe and then re-importing them for US-based customers. Sounds perfectly logical to me!

[lance]

31 minutes ago, MileHighEvertonian said:

It gets worse, Lance. They're actually $595 if you buy them stateside: http://www.levi.com/US/en_US/levi/p/344960000

Yikes!

 

Yikes for sure, MileHighEvertonian!

[lance]

22 minutes ago, Maynard Friedman said:

Presumably that extra cost represents the 'added value' of exporting those jeans (manufactured in the US from cotton grown and spun into denim in the US) to Europe and then re-importing them for US-based customers. Sounds perfectly logical to me!

hmm... let me cogitate on that for a while, Maynard 

[cusswords]

I had some ‘55s on a short list for the next pair of jeans and the Cone news pushed that time line up significantly. 34x34 hot washed and air dried.  

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Looks like a solid fit!

[Maynard Friedman]

Can someone confirm what is the weight of the 1976 denim in its raw state?

[Sympathy-For-The-Denim]

lvc states 12oz for the '76 in their lookbook. but it actually feels thicker.

[Maynard Friedman]

Thanks SftD.

[Maynard Friedman]

Double post

Edited November 1, 2017 by Maynard Friedman

[HAZARDkid]

9 hours ago, cusswords said:

I had some ‘55s on a short list for the next pair of jeans and the Cone news pushed that time line up significantly. 34x34 hot washed and air dried.  

 

Same thing for me. I actually pulled the trigger on two pairs in case they dont issue anymore reruns lol

[Maynard Friedman]

My 37s, washed and ready for next summer.

 

[Broark]

Looking good!