Pure Blue Japan

[setterman]

Maybe it's not the washing. I think it's more the washing machine. They don't hand wash at the factories. I've seen plenty of crinkles, streaks, and lines in one wash jeans that I wouldn't ever buy another pair. I had it happen to me with a pair sugar cane 1947s and a pair of Levi's 501 Selvedge. I've seen it on eternal 883 as well. Factory washes also seem to wreak havoc with the patches.

Factory wash by Warehouse, and four more by me hasn't hurt my 700s at all, or streaked them.

The threads here would be a lot less cluttered with sizing questions if first time buyers weren't so scared of OW jeans.

[trevorplease]

niggas trollin and bumpin my post out the way

is this a decent fit? i forgot how stiff raw denim is new and i don't remember if it should be this tight in the knee... can't bend it all the way to sit yet.

[willrh1]

Raw or one wash? If raw size up again.

[M1stral]

Plus, the whole procedure of touching & smelling raw denim, trying on the jeans on in raw state, then soaking them and looking forward to the result is just an essential for me. So, like always, to each his own.

While I know what you're saying. Do you feel the same about sanforized jeans? Just wondering.

[JayFourEyes]

is this a decent fit? i forgot how stiff raw denim is new and i don't remember if it should be this tight in the knee... can't bend it all the way to sit yet.

I think it's obviuos that they're too tight, unless you plan not to ever wash them, which is crazy.

[jmaxthemonster]

I'm interested in opinions on sandorized. To me, it seems like the best of all worlds. "Raw" denim that doesn't need to be presoaked. I would love to see basically all one wash fits replaced with sanforized. Or, since they know their customers aren't machine wash/drying before first wear, would a warm water soak + hang dry be too much to ask for a $300+ piece of clothing???

[jmaxthemonster]

I'm interested in opinions on sanforized. To me, it seems like the best of all worlds. "Raw" denim that doesn't need to be presoaked. I would love to see basically all one wash fits replaced with sanforized. Or, since they know their customers aren't machine wash/drying before first wear, would a warm water soak + hang dry be too much to ask for a $300+ piece of clothing???

Edited March 15, 2013 by jmaxthemonster

[jonmhenderson]

The sanforized jeans I've had always looked kind of dull and flat. Don't know how else to describe it. Subjective, I know.

[jonmhenderson]

I think it's obviuos that they're too tight, unless you plan not to ever wash them, which is crazy.

Looks like there's room in the upper thigh, and these things stretch big time. Mine have stretched over two inches in the waist and at least an inch in the thighs. Still haven't washed and don't plan on it. Good enough for Reudi, good enough for me.

[Max Power]

While I know what you're saying. Do you feel the same about sanforized jeans? Just wondering.

Most jeans that interest me are unsanforized. But I do own some sanforized models and feel like they lack that little extra character that raw models own. So yes, I prefer Raw over onewash and sanforized.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Me too. Sanforized denim has a ‚flat‘ feeling to me. The texture and surface irregularities are less pronounced, they are often less hairy. IMO, they lose a lot of character during the sanforization process. But as the sanforization process can be done in different ways and to a different extent, there are variations so that I’d prefer one sanforized denim over the other.

For me it’s also:

Raw > one-wash ≥ sanforized (depends on the o/w process and the sanforization process)

[exaptavist]

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Edited October 10, 2015 by hoggreaser

[okisan]

@hoggreaser

you left out one option on sanforized:

buy the right size based on stretch, wear to stretch out. fit fucking great.

to each their own but i find sanforized denim far easier to predict, especially if you know what you're buying.

[exaptavist]

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Edited October 10, 2015 by hoggreaser

[Maynard Friedman]

I agree with the Hogmeister.

With raw denim, you know how much it's likely to shrink, therefore size accordingly.

With sanforized, unless you have previous experience or specific advice, it's difficult to anticipate the shrinkage despite the manufacturers claims. Various sanforized denims can shrink from next to nothing to as much as raw denim. My 'sanforized' Lee 101B shrunk by 2" in the inseam. I must say that they didn't have that flatness and lack of hairiness that many sanforized denims have, so it makes me wonder if it really is as described.

[bomber889]

Been wearing these for about 3 months now

Edited March 15, 2013 by bomber889

[jonmhenderson]

Looking interesting. How many soaks/washes so far?

[bomber889]

I bought them in Japan and it seemed as if everything in the store was pre washed so only that, haven't done any soaks or washes yet....

[Mr-Bielby]

One wash all the way for me. Never seen a damaged pair, no stress on shrinking or do you don't you hem.

Anytime I buy raw they go straight into the washer anyway. Maybe twice if I'm feeling crazy.

[tewsday]

My xx-005s raw

3 soaks 1 wash

size 29

Had for about 3.5 years, but only about 2 years of total wear

Edited March 17, 2013 by tewsday

[rosarkar]

These 005's turned out SO GOOD tewsday. Without a doubt, one of the best PBJ evolutions I've seen on sufu.

Edited March 17, 2013 by rosarkar

[jonmhenderson]

Awesome Tewsday!

[juhan]

so beautiful pair. its very difficult to achieve such fades and contrast even at the stacks with pbj's deep indigos.

at a glance, i think most will think of it as FH or th samurai s710.

[juhan]

imo, at a quick look the high contrast and overall fades reminded me of f310 and the s710, just saying,

the x011 fades very well i know. but the deep indigos such as 007 and 009 are slubbier and its not often to see many high contrast fades on 007's.

[juhan]

oh yes, my bad haha.

but anyway, yes i agree that pbj's fade well.

considering which to get next. will be my first pbj !

[aho]

anyone peep the xx-007's on the pbj blog?:

http://www.purebluejapan.jp/archives/4672

[Sugar Mountain]

^ yes! Saw those through Denimba... I had no idea 007s could get so blue. Those look phenomenal.

[jonmhenderson]

Natural sunlight on the XX-007s

[tvshooter]

did you see these on the pbj blog?? ;-)

[aho]

^F YEAH!