Acronym.

[kkuer99]

One last bitching... P30A-DS 1.0 and P30A-E 1.1, both MIC.

 

 

[eyesolation]

has anyone here ordered at peggsandson before? do they ship with bag/spec?

[appolez]

29 minutes ago, eyesolation said:

has anyone here ordered at peggsandson before? do they ship with bag/spec?

Ordered a J47TS-GT, came with full pack.  Granted, that was 3 years ago.

 

[kobebean]

Late to the discussion about the P30A-DS seam ripping issue. IIRC when I handled the P30A-E there was some new reinforcement on the seam that connects the front and back pockets. Might point to Acr trying to prevent the issue.

Maybe someone who bought a pair can generously provide a picture.  

[ukiro]

15 hours ago, eyesolation said:

has anyone here ordered at peggsandson before? do they ship with bag/spec?

As recently as SS20 they included everything.

[Sureal]

P10-E (2014) vs new P10-E.  New nylon fabric is restrictive for me, just like my old P10-S.  Probably too restrictive, but I have no problem at all with P10A-DS or "broken in" cotton epic.    Did any P10A-E owners have a break in period with them? 

[Yardsale]

The P10A-e are much softer/looser/faded even than when I first got them. They're less noisy now too.

[GNTGLDNRNGS]

ripped stotz pair is sexy

6 hours ago, Sureal said:

P10-E (2014) vs new P10-E.  New nylon fabric is restrictive for me, just like my old P10-S.  Probably too restrictive, but I have no problem at all with P10A-DS or "broken in" cotton epic.    Did any P10A-E owners have a break in period with them? 

 

[keynezk]

so here is a page of BF 2042 artbook

Edited November 20, 2021 by keynezk

[KEИROИYM]

that J1TS Olive Green tho

[Kamikaze]

On the p30 pocket tearing issue, are you guys moving the excess fabric to the back which might shift the pocket layout to where you would be sitting on them? 
 

just curious as my friend has this issue but mines is fine 

[nathan_]

12 hours ago, Kamikaze said:

On the p30 pocket tearing issue, are you guys moving the excess fabric to the back which might shift the pocket layout to where you would be sitting on them? 
 

just curious as my friend has this issue but mines is fine 

I feel like this happens if you shift it to the front, placing more tension on that back pockets array, no? With that said, when tightening the pants, this is just naturally how the placement they'll sit in.

[nodre]

it feels like someone’s little bro raided their closet

[scamster]

looks nike x acronym wants to muscle in on adidas' stranglehold on gopnik

 

[FelixRevolt]

I’m just waiting for the Acronym popper pants.

[moneytalks]

6 minutes ago, FelixRevolt said:

I’m just waiting for the Acronym popper pants.

honestly wouldn't be surprised if that happens... SpeedStripÆ 

[Inkinsurgent]

On 11/17/2021 at 6:29 AM, moneytalks said:

 

 

and how crisp it feels when new is unbeatable 

just got mine, 'crisp' is apt! can't believe how different these feel from broken in epic.

[chris_n]

quick reviews:

 

p41-ds: the cut is really good and the lower leg engineering is v similar to p37 with the darting and contour panels. this satisfies my desire for p37-ds i think. i find the cargo pockets much more usable  and less noticeable when loaded than the p24a and p30a style pocket setup, but this is only because i have both types of pants. both types work well on their own. some pants only work well with hem zip closed, but these work well both ways.

p30a-e: the material is very nice to touch and i think overall the garment is lighter than the -ds version. initial impression after a few hours of wear is that these are noisier "crunchier" than the -ds version. the combination of lightweight + densely woven non-stretch fabric gives the feeling of being less breathable but i haven't gotten hot enough for it to be of concern so the breathability remains unknown. one note about the fabric is that because it is light and not stiff, the main cargo pockets are somewhat difficult to close single handed without the zipper collapsing/folding. this also happens on the -ds version, but the -s version (p24a) are relatively ok with single handed zipper closing. 

i haven't handled any -e fabrics of the past so can't comment on past generations, but i like it enough to consider trying the p10 version of this fabric.

 

 

update: the -e fabric seems to have an affinity for cat hair. i just picked up my cat and the pants have become very furry. could just be the 'newness' time will tell.

Edited November 24, 2021 by chris_n

[aosd]

Anyone got pics of the olive 3A-5/6ts in regular lighting?

[TEKsevenZERO]

Have to say that when I got my P30a-E that I was really rather disappointed compared to the V1.0 ds iterations, material felt unsubstantial especially given it is for 4 season use.

Far less comfortable as the material has no give.

Anyway, long story short, I sent them back and got a refund. My goopimade pants are far more comfortable given the similarities in fabric and a fraction of the cost but still look as good in my humblest of opinions.

Needless to say I'll get the DS version if I can find any in the alpha colour here in the UK, but I'll avoid the E-nylon in the future.

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by TEKsevenZERO

[Roofmann]

1 hour ago, TEKsevenZERO said:

Have to say that when I got my P30a-E that I was really rather disappointed compared to the V1.0 ds iterations, material felt unsubstantial especially given it is for 4 season use.

Far less comfortable as the material has no give.

Anyway, long story short, I sent them back and got a refund. My goopimade pants are far more comfortable given the similarities in fabric and a fraction of the cost but still look as good in my humblest of opinions.

Needless to say I'll get the DS version if I can find any in the alpha colour here in the UK, but I'll avoid the E-nylon in the future.

 

I must agree with your comments as well as those of chris_n above. The P30A-E's are a nice fit, well made and generally the design and pocket layout is good. The encapsulated nylon material is noisy, thin (light shines right through it), it doesn't stretch at all unlike the DS, and it is "cold." I wore my pants for the first time this morning when walking my loyal Bull Terrier and my legs were cold. (I live in Canada and the temperature was below freezing.)The E material seems to wick the heat out of my legs much quicker than DS trousers (both pants uninsulated.)

Another thing to consider is stain resistance. I stopped on my way home from work to grab a burger at a fast food place. While eating the burger, some beef fat squirted onto the leg of the pants. I eat my burgers plain so it was not a topping stain; only been grease (tallow.) I am still trying to wash the grease stain out of these pants using "Shout" "OxyClean" and the instructions on the washing tab.

All-in-all I will stick with DS Products in the future!

[moneytalks]

both DS and E are easily 4 season pants, just that one pair is more comfortable in summer, one is more comfortable in winter

can't have it all 

[FelixRevolt]

Interesting to hear opinions on the E fabric, didn’t think it would be as polarising. Personally E feels great in warmer conditions. But as for the Alpha Green, I’ve found it marks up easily. I had a pair of pants hanging in my wardrobe and the cobra buckle on them left a dark mark on the thigh area.

Edited November 25, 2021 by FelixRevolt

[scamster]

e is increasingly sounding like something to avoid, doesn’t seem to be the high everyone hoped for, glad I waited, going to skip the p30-e

not ruling it out completely, will wait & see what acronym cook up in the spring/summer and see if e is worth the trip

[moneytalks]

currently have these in E: P10A, P10, P30A, P38, P34
without a doubt the best material for acr pants if you're in the tropics

the only problem i've had with this is having had a few tiny drops of bleach unfortunately fall on the thigh area of my P10A, which immediately turned into tiny spots of clouded grey that could not be rubbed/cleaned off. however i fixed them with a fabric marker, no biggie

if you find yourself in cooler climate then it makes sense to go with DS, which is the only other fully synthetic material that acr pants come in

this is my acr profile atm: i rate e, and i'm still looking for a J68-S in black medium (holla @ me) 

[eyesolation]

In my own experience, -e is better than -ds in summer weather. Obviously, if you wear a thin nylon pant at temps below freezing point that's not gonna fly... but that doesn't mean the material is bad. 

[mikon_nikon]

Team-E over here. live in NL - it gets kinda cold but not super cold in winter. P34-E were my go to pants last year and P30-E will be this year. prefer layering under a light pant personally (if it gets super cold). also suits the cycling life a little more (less sweaty... dries out after quicker after the inevitable rain). the beauty of choice, I guess...

[Inkinsurgent]

From a military/mountaineering perspective Epic was always intended to be paired with a base layer in cold weather. It is almost entirely designed around being extremely fast to dry - they call it 'walk dry' in the mil, where after immersion or heavy rain the user needs to be able to continue doing whatever they were tasked to do and dry while doing it.

 

edit for grammar mistake

Edited November 25, 2021 by Inkinsurgent

[hentaiyarou69]

Can anyone comment on the warmth of the J58-WS against the J68-PL?

[Yan90]

-E is really great, especially in black clw compared with a black -DS.

Due to skin contact -DS has visible light grey marks on the waist, hand/cargo pockets entry areas, also grey spots constantly emerge on my diaper area between the legs, kinda the pants attract and absorb dust. I believe u'll see the same if examine your pair of black p30-ds. It's frustrating. I sold all my black -DS. No issue with -DS in RAF and Alpha, they r ok. Atm i prefer P30A-DS in alpha green over P30A-E alpha (they r less green irl). Both -E and colored -DS are easy to care.

-E in black is more dark grey than black, therefore, the details are clearly visible on -E than on a true black -DS. 

-E isn't so noisy. -WS (like on the J61, J47A etc) is a bit louder than -E irl. Loud -E is a gimmick. -E becomes quiet and soft over time.

-E fabric feels cheap. -DS, -CH, -S has more solid/luxury feel. But -E is the most durable.

-E is less stretchy than -DS, but there's no need of extra stretch for an ultra wide pants.

P.S. Weird but P30A-E in Navy and Alpha have a slightly different type (texture) of -E fabric, my straight out from the bag navy pair is already pretty soft and quite.

Also, my other pairs of P30A-E are well made, the quality is definitely better than on the pants from my previous post. QC is unstable. Same as for P30A-DS.

Edited November 25, 2021 by Yan90