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Received my J1B in white! Comparing to my J28 1.2:

  • Both are size small but J28 is quite a bit more generous, especially across the back and in the sleeves. 
  • Both will accommodate a J68 as a liner, though the J1B is more snug
  • J1B hood sits probably an inch and a half ahead of the J28 hood, so the J1B provides much better coverage
  • The J1B collar when zipped accommodates the J68 collar, also zipped, without being constricting 
  • The stand collar of the J28 doesn't stay nearly as neat as the J1B stand collar when unzipped
  • I'm a little torn on losing the front pocket array of the J28. They definitely distorted the profile of the jacket, but it was super easy to access the main pockets + mezzanine pockets. OTOH, the J1B is much cleaner and I would say has similar storage space to the J28, but the pockets are more finicky to access since they're WR zips and on the sleeves rather than velcro and on the chest. 

All in all, I really like the J1B and will probably let go of the J28. @jeddyhsu what do you use the detached pockets for? Right now I've been thinking masks but unsure what others have found them best for. 

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1 hour ago, zxcvbnnn said:All in all, I really like the J1B and will probably let go of the J28. @jeddyhsu what do you use the detached pockets for? Right now I've been thinking masks but unsure what others have found them best for. 

I used mine for a spare mask - I always keep one in each jacket, a small thing of lotion and sanitizer (so much hand washing in the winter makes this black man look like ashy Larry), and film holders and batteries for either analog or digital cameras. 
 

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15 hours ago, BruceLeroy said:

Agreed with you on all this. My logo tape was fine but my P10-DS had some glaring quality issues like excess threads and what not. 
 

What the fuck do we use the hitch tabs for anyways? Wrong answers only. 

Same with all my MIC items. Crooked stitching, excess threads. 

P.S. logo tape from my j68-PL 

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on a part you could produce at ten times the QD rejection rate without raising the product's overall price by more than 1% nonetheless.

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1 minute ago, Inkinsurgent said:

on a part you could produce at ten times the QD rejection rate without raising the product's overall price by more than 1% nonetheless.

Imagine how I feel as a quality/reliability engineer for a cycling company. It’s hard to not overlook the small things. 

I just checked all of my shells and J68 and two are off. One slightly. One very obvious. Normally I’d say this would be fine, but this is a brand logo graphic - a big no no. Who ever is pad/screen printing these parts needs to revisit the control plan. 

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3 hours ago, zxcvbnnn said:

 @jeddyhsu what do you use the detached pockets for? Right now I've been thinking masks but unsure what others have found them best for. 

I've put my airpods case, keys, pocketknife, lip balm, lighter, and even a pack of cigs all individually fit in them.

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A close friend made me a deal I couldn’t say no to for their J1E-GT

Is there a best practice for cleaning white GT without inducing any yellowing/discoloring? 
 

I searched the thread, but got distracted by someone getting roasted, and another photo of a jacket, (maybe crooked) logo tape up, in the toilet talking about flushing. 

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4 hours ago, BruceLeroy said:

Normally I’d say this would be fine

Acronym is a luxury brand with luxury price points, I can’t even imagine stuff like that on 200EUR Arcteryx jacket. Acronym was always synonymous with quality. Fabrics (not stotz or epic), patterns, quality control, branding etc. But seeing mistakes like that especially after steady price increases is pretty sus. Kinda feels like that on a personal level E is not interested in the brand anymore.

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13 minutes ago, leg said:

Acronym is a luxury brand with luxury price points, I can’t even imagine stuff like that on 200EUR Arcteryx jacket. Acronym was always synonymous with quality. Fabrics (not stotz or epic), patterns, quality control, branding etc. But seeing mistakes like that especially after steady price increases is pretty sus. Kinda feels like that on a personal level E is not interested in the brand anymore.

i know it's a meme now but MIE>MIC. i thought the MIC items would be priced lower but this j1b is kinda high.

also kith just loaded the new acronym items.

https://kith.com/collections/acronym/products/acj1b-gt-wht

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11 minutes ago, leg said:

Acronym is a luxury brand with luxury price points, I can’t even imagine stuff like that on 200EUR Arcteryx jacket. Acronym was always synonymous with quality. Fabrics (not stotz or epic), patterns, quality control, branding etc. But seeing mistakes like that especially after steady price increases is pretty sus. Kinda feels like on a personal level E is not interested in the brand anymore.

don't think its quite the case errolson and by extension acronym do not care about the brand, otherwise why bother bother with collaborations and all the marketing that entails, although one could argue that the collabs are way alleviate the boredom they may feel with acronym, a form of invigoration.

if you look at the clothing as an extension of how acronym thinks, in the past it would be more aggressive silhouettes, everything on point, todays acronym is more relaxed, going with the flow and seems that attitude has permeated through to quality control. just my two rusty pennies worth and could be just chatting out of my hat.

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11 minutes ago, Kamikaze said:

i know it's a meme now but MIE>MIC. i thought the MIC items would be priced lower but this j1b is kinda high.

also kith just loaded the new acronym items.

https://kith.com/collections/acronym/products/acj1b-gt-wht

g'zus kith kindly can pay the taxes for you, nice of them (_sarcasm) bringing the total to the uk for j1b-gt at £2032.13

lol :rolleyes: fuck right off

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If I look at it from a production standpoint they’re producing a number of complicated garments. I’d assume their throughput and general functional quality checks for various garments (taking into account several materials, colors, etc) is barely enough to meet their release timelines. 

Threads can be missed. Logos and graphics can be misapplied. I’m not happy that these small issues exist, but it may not make “process sense” for the brand. 

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1 hour ago, leg said:

Acronym was always synonymous with quality. Fabrics (not stotz or epic), patterns, quality control, branding etc.

gonna have to disagree on that.  Acronym has been more synonymous with pushing the envelope in terms of design and function and for the most part, they did a decent job with construction but i've had acrnm jackets that were brand new with seam tape coming off the edges.  I think naturally you think that if something is made with utility being at the forefront of the design process that quality would need to be a part of that equation since you can't keep using a tool/piece of clothing if if it starts coming apart regardless of how well it's designed.  Arc'teryx on the other hand is a brand that i feel is more synonymous with quality and they stand by the quality of their products with their amazing warranty.  their construction for multiple layer fabrics and outdoor gear is unmattttcheeeedd

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I have a hunch the customer service is at least decent enough for them to send out replacement logo tags if you show them yours is f'd up. It'll certainly be a more interesting topic if they don't...

I think I read the webbing fabric is different too? I wonder if the webbing differs between any of the belts in the trousers. I thought I had read from this forum that they were using quite a high quality German mfg for the nylon materials (tec sys, jacket sling, etc) so it would be disappointing to see that be swapped out with a lesser quality mfg. 

The sleeve fasteners on my J59 and J72 are on completely opposite sides. Pretty much a complete blunder for liner+jacket interop. But I don't really have any criticisms to offer because they still design Tilak as far as I know, which is what I would buy if I needed Arc'teryx, TNF or Patagonia type of customer service/warranty to fix those sorts of issues. I'm hesitant about the most recently produced Acronym but I think this is part of an existing trade off. 

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2 hours ago, Kamikaze said:

Just got my j1b today and first thing I noticed was the cuff sewn a bit off lol. 

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Damn, that is lame...

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40 minutes ago, Chyyy said:

FW2021 MIC Amazing QC

 

Ouch, did it come like that or is that from normal wear and tear?

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2 minutes ago, thatslapz said:

Ouch, did it come like that or is that from normal wear and tear?

Never worn come like that.

I sent twice emails to acronym for this issue but they don’t reply me.

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5 hours ago, Chyyy said:

FW2021 MIC Amazing QC

A year ago I got P30A with one leg longer than other by 2 inches. Good local tailor took care of it, but... it's 1k pants, wtf?! It was first ACR pants made in China.

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But hey at least the QC people are finally making a living wage. 

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It's amazing that what started as a minor quip on the alignment of logo tape has turned into a full blown expose on MiC quality all of a sudden.

Keep these reports coming in guys. I remember only good reviews of the P30A when they came out last year so @zoobre's situation comes as a shock.

I remember the J63a auxzip fiasco in 2018, but don't remember a QC issue of this scale even for MiC products.

 

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Is someone's package delivery delayed? My destination is Hong Kong and it has been stuck in the warehouse for 5 days

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16 minutes ago, chichaiho said:

Is someone's package delivery delayed? My destination is Hong Kong and it has been stuck in the warehouse for 5 days

Not sure if it could be the same case for HK but I had to provide my tax ID to release it from a warehouse in the US. Have you tried calling to inquire on the status?

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5 hours ago, iamundying said:

It's amazing that what started as a minor quip on the alignment of logo tape has turned into a full blown expose on MiC quality all of a sudden.

Keep these reports coming in guys. I remember only good reviews of the P30A when they came out last year so @zoobre's situation comes as a shock.

I remember the J63a auxzip fiasco in 2018, but don't remember a QC issue of this scale even for MiC products.

 

China / Asia is usually great with quality control pending the money and the correct people are overseeing manufacturing. From professional experience small details like this are common in the first few years or can pop up out of no where if controls aren't put in place when production tries to scale up. I hope they figure this out. Shit, I'd gladly "consult" because I love the product.

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7分鐘前,Ayayron說:

不確定香港是否會遇到這種情況,但我必須提供稅號才能從美國的倉庫中放出來。您是否嘗試致電詢問狀態?

我還沒有打電話詢問。這不是它第一次運到香港,但這是我第一次遇到這種情況。我上班時會打電話給他們,謝謝。

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1 hour ago, chichaiho said:

我還沒有打電話詢問。這不是它第一次運到香港,但這是我第一次遇到這種情況。我上班時會打電話給他們,謝謝。

sorry, not sure who ships in HK, but in US, UPS usually handles acr shipments. I had to call their brokerage dept and give them my tax ID to release my package from a warehouse. IDK if your courier would require the same information though.

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2 hours ago, chichaiho said:

Is someone's package delivery delayed? My destination is Hong Kong and it has been stuck in the warehouse for 5 days

My last package was stuck in CZ UPS warehouse for almost two weeks. I called UPS and they said there was nothing required, they were just waiting for CZ customs to process the package. As mentioned if it is in your destination country held at a warehouse there’s a higher chance they need something from you. 

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