The Flat Head

[reallypeacedoff]

Their 3XXX denim is so boss. Give it some use and it will go a perfect summer shade.

[Quoise1203]

On 3/14/2020 at 10:01 AM, Cold Summer said:

It's here.

 

 

 

 

 

Flat Head 7002W, 365 days of wear, ~9 washes. See a whole lot more pictures on my blog.

Maybe the best looking piece of denim I’ve ever seen

[Cold Summer]

Thanks! What's really cool is that I feel like this shirt is really only getting started, I think another 6-12 months of wear time will really bring out its full potential.

[1fookntitefd]

Pics of my RJBs. These have been my go to pair for the last year and a half. 8 washes.

[itsbenhere]

Damn that left hand twill looks so good. I need to wear mine more!

[1fookntitefd]

17 hours ago, itsbenhere said:

Damn that left hand twill looks so good. I need to wear mine more!

Wear and post pics!

[space_cowboy]

Ordered the Real Japan Blues x R&H RFR-004 from Rivet & Hide. I normally go for some stacking, but decided to hem them so they don't break. Worried I may have gone a bit too high.

 

[Cold Summer]

Those look good! That's about how much break I have in my Full Count 1108s - I think it's a good look.

[Collin]

It's the perfect length in my opinion. 

[Smallrod]

Perfect summer length. 

[Geeman]

Look ok to me plus you got 1/4 -1/2 inch less in the cuff if you need to by the look of it.

[space_cowboy]

Thanks guys, looking forward to breaking these in. I've always heard stories that Flat Head front pockets are borderline unusable because how small they are and I confirm that these RJB's definitely have the smallest front pockets I've encountered on jeans. Luckily I'm not a big front pocket user.

[cmboland]

On 5/3/2020 at 8:55 AM, space_cowboy said:

Thanks guys, looking forward to breaking these in. I've always heard stories that Flat Head front pockets are borderline unusable because how small they are and I confirm that these RJB's definitely have the smallest front pockets I've encountered on jeans. Luckily I'm not a big front pocket user.

It’s also funny watching the most massive wallets be stuffed into them 
 

 

[mondo]

2 hours ago, cmboland said:

It’s also funny watching the most massive wallets be stuffed into them 
 

 

Agreed, if you mean the long biker wallets... but I find my mid-length FH wallet fits exactly into the back pocket of my 3005s (funny, that!) with just the silver ring protruding clear of the pocket edge. Many other jeans end up with a chewed hem on the pocket from that ring... I know we're talking front pockets, but smaller ones have their place – my generously-pocketed jeans (e.g. UES; Tender) often end up with a very distinct pocket bag fade due to their generously-thighed contents

[lemmywinks]

so what does it mean that The Flat Head is going bankrupt? They still seem to be making jeans?

[Cold Summer]

I never put any stuff in my front pockets on any jeans, hate how it feels and fades... but I put my hands in my pockets all the time. They have to go somewhere, right? So I find it really annoying when the front pockets are too small for me to stick my hands in.

[cmboland]

8 hours ago, lemmywinks said:

so what does it mean that The Flat Head is going bankrupt? They still seem to be making jeans?

companies can go bankrupt and still continue on. Look at Chrysler.

[cmboland]

5 hours ago, Cold Summer said:

I never put any stuff in my front pockets on any jeans, hate how it feels and fades... but I put my hands in my pockets all the time. They have to go somewhere, right? So I find it really annoying when the front pockets are too small for me to stick my hands in.

ive grown partial to having a card holder for a phone case.

[Geeman]

11 hours ago, lemmywinks said:

so what does it mean that The Flat Head is going bankrupt? They still seem to be making jeans?

They've changed owner as a result but new pics on IG look promising! 

[Geeman]

Cant remember if I have posted this before, pulled this put of a drawer today  I'd completely forgot about it. Special addition t I bought from TFH stall (meeting the man himself) at the Pronto Denim Carnival in BKK back in 2016 I I think 

THC tshirt with all their sub brands logos on the back. Cant actually recall wearing it. Excuse the creases 

Great colour for summer.

 

 

[space_cowboy]

On 5/2/2020 at 10:15 AM, space_cowboy said:

Ordered the Real Japan Blues x R&H RFR-004 from Rivet & Hide. I normally go for some stacking, but decided to hem them so they don't break. Worried I may have gone a bit too high.

 

 

Sadly after ~20 wears, the waist hasn't stretched out to where I need it to be for these to work long term. If anyone in the US is interested in grabbing them at a very reasonable price send me a DM. They're a size 31 and have been hemmed to 30" by Indigo Proof. These are truly some awesome jeans and I'm super bummed that they didn't work out. 

I'm having a hard time finding jeans that accompany a minimum 12.5" thigh at a 32" waist that doesn't have a 11"- + rise. I feel if I sized up 1 or 2 on this exact model the jeans would be practically touching my belly button. 

[reallypeacedoff]

9 hours ago, space_cowboy said:

Sadly after ~20 wears, the waist hasn't stretched out to where I need it to be for these to work long term. If anyone in the US is interested in grabbing them at a very reasonable price send me a DM. They're a size 31 and have been hemmed to 30" by Indigo Proof. These are truly some awesome jeans and I'm super bummed that they didn't work out. 

I'm having a hard time finding jeans that accompany a minimum 12.5" thigh at a 32" waist that doesn't have a 11"- + rise. I feel if I sized up 1 or 2 on this exact model the jeans would be practically touching my belly button. 

You just gotta keep wearing bro. 60 wears would be where I run if I'm sure it isn't gonna work. They look good on you—and I get the pain—but that is raw denim.

After a few years you could get them to look like this. Trust me, a lot of work and at one time I thought the same thing.

[mpukas]

10 hours ago, space_cowboy said:

I'm having a hard time finding jeans that accompany a minimum 12.5" thigh at a 32" waist that doesn't have a 11"- + rise. I feel if I sized up 1 or 2 on this exact model the jeans would be practically touching my belly button. 

It's mainly the waist measurement that changes in different sizes. Sure, rise and thigh measurements are scaled accordingly, but they don't change as much as the waist. If the waist is too small on your pair, and the thigh and rise are good, then sizing up 1 won't increase in those measurements that much when you wear them. And, if you increase the waist size, they'll probably ride a little lower, and be at the same level as you're pair are now. For me, regardless of rise, high or low, my jeans always end up just slightly below my hip bones. Unless of course if they're ultra-low rise and they don't even make it that high, lol. 

Neph on the IH forum has given out this good advice many times, that a cut should be chosen by the thigh measurement first, then decide on your waist size. If the thighs are too small for you size, sizing up will only make the waist too big. 

The only cuts that come to mind that I can recommend looking at are Samurai's S510 - it's a wide in the thigh and hips compared to the waist, with a medium rise, and straight leg; PBJ 019 straight tapered cut; maybe Tanuki's tapered cut if you want low rise and taper, but they are very low rise and very tapered. Tanuki's Regular Straight cut thigh's aren't that big, but it's a good cut. OD has worked w/ SDA on a relaxed tapered cut, but it looks really tapered. Otherwise maybe the guys more knowledgeable about repro models can give advice about a fuller leg cut, and you could get them tapered... 

[mlwdp]

Some more random Flat HeadxWesco finds

 

[Cold Summer]

Interesting, I didn't know Flat Head ever made anything with Wesco - just White's and Viberg.

[mlwdp]

Here’s some more.  Can’t find much info other than scouring obscure Japanese auction sites and Google images.  

 

 

Edited May 27, 2020 by mlwdp

[Cold Summer]

I wonder when they did that? Back when I worked for TFH in 2013 and part of 2014, it was just White's and Viberg. Maybe Wesco came after.

[dau]

On 5/26/2020 at 4:31 PM, space_cowboy said:

 

Sadly after ~20 wears, the waist hasn't stretched out to where I need it to be for these to work long term. 

why not use waist stretcher?

[space_cowboy]

On 5/26/2020 at 7:16 PM, mpukas said:

It's mainly the waist measurement that changes in different sizes. Sure, rise and thigh measurements are scaled accordingly, but they don't change as much as the waist. If the waist is too small on your pair, and the thigh and rise are good, then sizing up 1 won't increase in those measurements that much when you wear them. And, if you increase the waist size, they'll probably ride a little lower, and be at the same level as you're pair are now. For me, regardless of rise, high or low, my jeans always end up just slightly below my hip bones. Unless of course if they're ultra-low rise and they don't even make it that high, lol. 

Neph on the IH forum has given out this good advice many times, that a cut should be chosen by the thigh measurement first, then decide on your waist size. If the thighs are too small for you size, sizing up will only make the waist too big. 

The only cuts that come to mind that I can recommend looking at are Samurai's S510 - it's a wide in the thigh and hips compared to the waist, with a medium rise, and straight leg; PBJ 019 straight tapered cut; maybe Tanuki's tapered cut if you want low rise and taper, but they are very low rise and very tapered. Tanuki's Regular Straight cut thigh's aren't that big, but it's a good cut. OD has worked w/ SDA on a relaxed tapered cut, but it looks really tapered. Otherwise maybe the guys more knowledgeable about repro models can give advice about a fuller leg cut, and you could get them tapered... 

This is good advice. I do size for thighs, but perhaps I'm paying too much concern to rise. Finding the right thigh to waist ratio is what I need. Think I need to try on my next pair in person, whenever things go back to normal.

[space_cowboy]

On 5/26/2020 at 6:34 PM, reallypeacedoff said:

You just gotta keep wearing bro. 60 wears would be where I run if I'm sure it isn't gonna work. They look good on you—and I get the pain—but that is raw denim.

After a few years you could get them to look like this. Trust me, a lot of work and at one time I thought the same thing.

Those look amazing. Maybe I will give them some more time before making the final decision, or bite the bullet and size up because I really love this fabric.