Samurai Jeans

[beautiful_FrEaK]

yep, just like the 2ND collab in 2008 (or so). I think Gordon will do the 17oz again like last time and maybe this time really the 21oz. The probably third pair could be 15oz or maybe LHT?! That would be cool if he could use the old Jins denim in the 710 cut

[cmo]

Yeah I had that 2nd collab pair but ended up selling them on here.... Regret it now!!

[Max Power]

Indeed. I'm hoping for a different denim than what is common. I think 21 oz would sell very good, so I bet on these. on 17 oz as well. If there is a third, 15 oz is likely. But I'd definitely prefer the Geisha denim or any Jin denim. We'll see. i think I decide against the black models- I don't find the fadings of the BK denim that appealing.

Edited September 24, 2013 by Max Power

[beautiful_FrEaK]

^^ That was really a dumb decision

 

^The disadvantage of the black Zero denim is, that it is very greyish and not dark black. There are some intense worn-in pairs but they all got a dirty grey look. The Geisha denim would also be great! After seeing kayodic's pair...great texture of the denim

[ken shinoda]

Ultimately, I'd get the 15oz as they'll get more wear than the thicker 21oz 634S I currently have. I think I'll wait a bit myself and see what my options are.

Here's hoping that they'll make 15oz 710 in black and indigo, I'd insta cop those and store em for future use.

[ken shinoda]

^^ That was really a dumb decision

 

^The disadvantage of the black Zero denim is, that it is very greyish and not dark black. There are some intense worn-in pairs but they all got a dirty grey look. The Geisha denim would also be great! After seeing kayodic's pair...great texture of the denim

Hadn't realized there's a few types of black denim. The black hawk uses the zero denim right? I'm assuming the red hawk does as well.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Samurai has at the moment only one type of black denim and that is the Zero/VX (whatever you want to call it) 17oz denim. Their standard black denim. They had a 19oz black denim once

 

edit: they also had a black x black denim featured in the S5000BKB recently

Edited September 24, 2013 by beautiful_FrEaK

[ken shinoda]

Oh i see. I saw some evo of the black 710 and they look pretty awesome. I might have a lower standard than you then, bf

Btw, just noticed that 2nd still have a pair of go rin no sho water element in my size. Googled and found some pretty nice evo pics. They seem slimmer than the usual 5000s cut?

[501XX4EVER]

Shit, those S526VX-L-15th look fucking great. I'm trying to save money right now but I might have to just say 'fuck it' and order a pair. I've never ordered from 2nd but I know many folks here have, I'm presuming it's pretty easy. One question though, will they be raw?

 

Please do, and let me know how you get on with them, so you can drag me down the same road to broke-ness with you.      

 

I really like the the extreme attention to detail on these ones, even by Samurai's very high standards.

[Robert Langdon]

@maxpower

Thanks man and lol.

[Quoise1203]

The Red Hawk and Black Hawk are now up on the BiG website.  Man, it is really hard to tell that the Red Hawk are Black rather than indigo...

[S-Town]

I know it, man.  It's crazy how much the thread color can alter the perception of the black.  At first, I thought these were too similar, but the contrast stitching on black denim is really cool.

[marti-mar]

What is the difference between the Red Hawk and the 710BK II?  Don't they use same denim? The thread color looks the same.  The BKII has hidden arcs, but... are they the same jean otherwise?

Edited September 25, 2013 by marti-mar

[501XX4EVER]

What is the difference between the Red Hawk and the 710BK II?  Don't they use same denim? The thread color looks the same.  The BKII has hidden arcs, but... are they the same jean otherwise?

 

The Black Hawk has black fly buttons similar to the 5000 BK, the Red Hawk has what looks like the standard 710 fly buttons, obviously the patches are different. I agree that the Red Hawk really does look more indigo than black in those pics.

 

They are both very nice but, not being a hater or anything, they don't really seem that "special". Just my two cents.

Edited September 25, 2013 by 501XX4EVER

[ColdStorage]

Black and red hawk are both up for purchase. Just grabbed a Blackhawk which I will be soaking on arrival, so ill post some before/after measurements here.

[bradl]

Damn, price of the S552xx jumped it seems. Anyone thinking of getting it when it comes out, think late October?

 

Still on the fence with this, but really do want it but $414 a good chunk of change. 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

you mean the 25oz version? I think it is still priced the same

[louisbosco]

i just got lost in BiG's collabs, confusing for me.

[bradl]

Guess the yen > cad changed, not by much though just forgot how much it was priced when I first seen it.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

that's the most likely scenario. That's why I always count in Yen

[ken shinoda]

The blackhawk is a limited to 75 pairs?

[ColdStorage]

It seems so. And the Redhawk to only 45 according to B.i.G website.

 

Pretty low numbers for both... and combine that with the fact that the Redhawk doesn't have a custom tag and I have to wonder if maybe they got halfway into producing Blackhawk before they realized they were using the wrong color thread (orange instead of black) so they just used normal Samurai tags and split it off into a smaller special run. Maybe a bit tin-foil hat but it could be...

[superego]

^^ That was really a dumb decision

 

^The disadvantage of the black Zero denim is, that it is very greyish and not dark black. There are some intense worn-in pairs but they all got a dirty grey look. The Geisha denim would also be great! After seeing kayodic's pair...great texture of the denim

 

confused...the fades black samurai denim gets was the reason I got interested in the first place.  not your experience? 

 

 

It seems so. And the Redhawk to only 45 according to B.i.G website.

 

Pretty low numbers for both... and combine that with the fact that the Redhawk doesn't have a custom tag and I have to wonder if maybe they got halfway into producing Blackhawk before they realized they were using the wrong color thread (orange instead of black) so they just used normal Samurai tags and split it off into a smaller special run. Maybe a bit tin-foil hat but it could be...

 

based on conversations with gordon, there were two pieces planned from the outset:  both feature the black zero denim, but with different details.  black hawk obviously features all black details, while the red hawk has the more traditional back patch, buttons and lemon stitching. 

[Max Power]

I'm with b_F here. After looking at faded BKs, I feel like the denim doesn't give much contrast but turns to a greyish tone all over. I love how they look new, but not too impressed with faded ones. Think I'll wait what blues are coming.

[ken shinoda]

Which black denim would you guys recommend then?

[rxin94]

hey guys I have the opportunity to get either the black shadows or bk2's 

 

I looked up some info on the black shadows but can't get a lot on the bk2's. anyone know their features?

 

also, would the black shadows fade to the dirty gray that was mentioned above or would they fade more like my normal 710xx

[rxin94]

my 710xx's 1 year, 4 washes (sorry for double post!)

 

 

Edited September 26, 2013 by rxin94

[beautiful_FrEaK]

to my knowledge it all uses the same 17oz black denim. so the fades should be the same

[rxin94]

to my knowledge it all uses the same 17oz black denim. so the fades should be the same

but don't the black shadows also have indigo weft?

[spidereye]

Anyone break in this lately cant wait to see 100% hemp potential .