Samurai Jeans

[beautiful_FrEaK]

but don't the black shadows also have indigo weft?

 

no, just the standard 17oz black denim

[Max Power]

If you want real black denim (fading) I thing the IH SBG denim is a good choice. Though it's much more regular and not as slubby as Samurai. And all black weft.

[Robert Langdon]

So I ended up order the naniwa specials from aikidou. I wasn't too sure about the BiG Black Hawks or the red ones for that matter. My thighs don't sit right in 710s. Oh well. Pics when they arrive.

Lol BIG BLACK HAWKS

[Foxy2]

hey guys I have the opportunity to get either the black shadows or bk2's 

 

I looked up some info on the black shadows but can't get a lot on the bk2's. anyone know their features?

 

also, would the black shadows fade to the dirty gray that was mentioned above or would they fade more like my normal 710xx

Got the BKB, but not much wear so far...

What do you need to know?

[Foxy2]

^^^^^

Anyone break in this lately cant wait to see 100% hemp potential.

...

They don't get much love around here - probably due to the exposed selvedge at the coin pocket.

Lately, I was starting to wonder about the Winter/Wool model from that series, but it seems like there is very little information available. Would love to see a broken in pair or some comments...

Edited September 26, 2013 by Foxy2

[louisbosco]

Got the BKB, but not much wear so far...

What do you need to know?

 

yes the bkb. i've got a pair too but havent worn them.

[cmboland]

Finally joined the club

[Max Power]

Measurements would be nice, as it's 34, right?

[superego]

If you want real black denim (fading) I thing the IH SBG denim is a good choice. Though it's much more regular and not as slubby as Samurai. And all black weft.

 

what?  black weft would result in minimal if any fades--the contrast between the warp and weft yarns is what result in the fades

[B-Sandy]

Samurai S003JP size 34

 

Pre

Waist: 35.5

Thigh: 12.5

Knee: 9

Hem: 8

Inseam: 36

Rise: 10.7

 

Post Hot Machine Wash

Waist: 33.5 (since stretched out to a 36)

Thigh: 12 (now 12.25)

Knee: 8.6

Hem: 7.5

Inseam 34

Rise: 10.4

 

 

 

 

 

[marti-mar]

I got my s610LX17oz Jeans in.  Here are some pre-soak fit pics.  For comparison, I also took some pre-wash fit pictures of my s710BK II's.  322 days of actual wear, but I'm not too active in them so the evo isn't great. 1 wash, 2 Hot Soaks.

 

I'm leaning towards keeping the s610's. Thoughts?

 

 

s610LX17oz:

 

 

 

 

 

 

710BK II:

 

 

 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

yep, the 610 looks better!

the lower rise makes less "muffin top" (sorry for that )

[501XX4EVER]

I got my s610LX17oz Jeans in.  Here are some pre-soak fit pics.  For comparison, I also took some pre-wash fit pictures of my s710BK II's.  322 days of actual wear, but I'm not too active in them so the evo isn't great. 1 wash, 2 Hot Soaks.

 

I'm leaning towards keeping the s610's. Thoughts?

 

 

s610LX17oz:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are they the pair you got from sakurastyle.com???

[501XX4EVER]

The Black Hawk has black fly buttons similar to the 5000 BK, the Red Hawk has what looks like the standard 710 fly buttons, obviously the patches are different. I agree that the Red Hawk really does look more indigo than black in those pics.

 

They are both very nice but, not being a hater or anything, they don't really seem that "special". Just my two cents.

 

Also, the Black Hawk has black rivets while the Red Hawk has copper rivets.

[marti-mar]

Are they the pair you got from sakurastyle.com???

 

Yes they are.  I bought it off their rakuten site, but it's the same company.  Everything looks legit - very smooth transaction.

[louisbosco]

what?  black weft would result in minimal if any fades--the contrast between the warp and weft yarns is what result in the fades

 

the loss of indigo results in the fade.

[marti-mar]

yep, the 610 looks better!

the lower rise makes less "muffin top" (sorry for that )

 

Yes, the 710 was not the best cut for me. Hopefully they will fit a little better after another wash and an eventual hem.  The 2nd wash is due in another few days.   I've been more active in them this past 5 months so I'm hoping this wash will yield a little more evo than the last wash which was a little disappointing.

 

I think the 610's will be a better fit for me. I hope they turn out well.

Edited September 27, 2013 by marti-mar

[bradl]

So 610lx is like 710 but with a lower rise? 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

And another 25oz model coming out.

 

S510XX25ozGA-15

 

 

 

 

 

 

- offset belt loop

- gold buttons

- lined back pocktes with fading arcs

- 2 different colored and styled arcs

- new pocket bag material

- tripple needle construction

Edited September 27, 2013 by beautiful_FrEaK

[spidereye]

Youre rite foxy...but 100% hemp sound so raw. Like to see it with evos.

[spidereye]

Damn this new 25oz is so hot...510 cut fit me better then 5000vx for sure.. b_f do you know when it will available.

[marti-mar]

So 610lx is like 710 but with a lower rise? 

 

The 610 is low rise and straight leg to the knee. It tapers below the knee. The 710 has a higher rise, but I'm not sure where the leg taper starts.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Damn this new 25oz is so hot...510 cut fit me better then 5000vx for sure.. b_f do you know when it will available.

 

December or later

[superego]

what?  black weft would result in minimal if any fades--the contrast between the warp and weft yarns is what result in the fades

 

 

the loss of indigo results in the fade.

 

*slaps forehead*  yes, but not if weft yarns are dyed black

[movingslow]

the white weft shows more contrast in the fades compared to denim with a black weft.   black weft just means it appears more subtle when you lose indigo on the warp.  

[superego]

looking to get into the 710 BH on the BiG website.  comparing measurements between those and a pair of somet 003 I own, looks like I should be good with the 33s, but wondering if I should size up since the BHs are unsanforized? 

 

also, planning to do a cold wash/hang dry once I get them.  anything else I need to do being that the denim is unsanforized? 

[S-Town]

^^^

Of course you'll see fades, even if the weft is dyed.  The fading results in the undyed core of the yarn making an appearance.  Unless it is dyed through the core, or a special "no-fade" dye is used, you'll see fades per usual.  Look to the PBJ 007 for example.  It's not black, but the principle is the same.  The weft is completely irrelevant to whether there is any fading.  If you look at the S5000s with the colored wefts from 2010, these colors do not come through with fading.  But, the Rainbow Okis from Sugarcane fade to rainbow colors on the warp.  It all has to do with the what is going on in the core of the warp.  The weft is only made visible through the small gaps in the weave, or if you have a cuff.

Edited September 27, 2013 by S-Town

[cmboland]

I'm really gritting my teeth over this but i have to sell my S710xx 15th in tag 34. Due to poor measuring they are too short for me at 30 inches. the inseam is flat stitched on a singer not chain stitched

 

These are fully shrunk and i would just like to recoup some of my costs in order to get a new pair.

 

$240 or best offer. I just want them gone. Sorry for spamming up the sammie board.

 

http://imgur.com/a/b2a4b#zxwCto2

[beautiful_FrEaK]

a tumblr find...from the look of it I think this pic could be from Hollowsleather

 

[cmboland]

You guys are the best to ask. I originally thought these would be too short but I'm starting to think otherwise. Thoughts?