Samurai Jeans

[Max Power]

I got no response from Aikidou, so I ordered via sutocorp. I made a friend get the same jeans and by my experience he sized down one and he said he could have sized down two. So, these seem to run slightly bigger than usual, but they shrink to a good fit after some washes.

 

Then:

 

 

 

Now:

 

In general, I think that the 510 fit is the closest one to compare it to. If you can live with a slightly relaxed fit, go TTS, if you got skinny thighs, size down one (from my experience!).

[Robert Langdon]

@maxpower

Just out of curiosity, did you contact aikidou through rakuten or their website? They promptly got back to me twice before I finally commited. Maybe I got lucky.

[Max Power]

Directly over their website. The Jeans weren't in their rakuten store back then.

[morse9443]

Anyone know details on the 2-3 indigo models in the 710 Hawk Series? Release Date?

[bradl]

Why do they have measurements like 83.5-87.5?! Is one jean seriously going to have a 4 cm difference in the waist.....

[BrownMetallic]

Anyone know details on the 2-3 indigo models in the 710 Hawk Series? Release Date?

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yeah, i'm waiting for the 526 Hawk model to drop @BiG,  as well.

Edited October 10, 2013 by BrownMetallic

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Why do they have measurements like 83.5-87.5?! Is one jean seriously going to have a 4 cm difference in the waist.....

 

those measurements take different shrinkage methods and also production deviations in account. So Samurai plays on the safe side with giving such a range. That said, I never go by their measurement charts

[bradl]

Yeah, because 34 has a even shorter gap, that was even covered by the size below it. 

 

Can someone seriously buy those 33 so I don't "accidentally" buy them.

 

bF how did you size on your type 2? Looking at the measurements for the s552xx25oz, the length of it is seems ridiculously short for a 40 or 42

Edited October 10, 2013 by bradl

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I have the type3 jacket.

I took the same size as in my Flathead Shirts which is a size 44. A size 44 translates into XL, right? I usually wear a European size L  in jackets and such (which would be an US size M from what I have experienced)

With the smaller running Japanese sizes, a 44/XL was safer. But the measurements from BiG were quite okay. I can compare if the official Samurai measurements are right but that won't guarantee you, that the 25oz version might run differently

[bradl]

Ughhhh well I think I would size a bit larger on this one, as I would use this jacket for layering so hope I don't have too much problems when if I order.

[devilish]

Man, MP's fit and that of the model in Aikidou's picture of the Naniwa Specials is completely different. I know the guy on the website is probably a tiny Japanese dude with thighs the size of twigs but MP is hardly a ham beast either. I would never have pegged them for the same jeans.

[bradl]

Yeah, that's the part that threw me off as well. But in Max current pictures, they have tightened up quite a bit since he first got them.

[501XX4EVER]

I have the type3 jacket.

I took the same size as in my Flathead Shirts which is a size 44. A size 44 translates into XL, right? I usually wear a European size L  in jackets and such (which would be an US size M from what I have experienced)

With the smaller running Japanese sizes, a 44/XL was safer. But the measurements from BiG were quite okay. I can compare if the official Samurai measurements are right but that won't guarantee you, that the 25oz version might run differently

 

To be honest, I think a 44 would only be an XL in Japan, I think a "western", ie EU and USA XL, would be closer to a 48. There are so many Japanese Denim jackets I would love to get, but I won't risk it as they only go to a 44 which would be too small for me.

 

For example, the first run of "555" LVC Type I and Type II Jacket came in a 48, which was the largest size, ie an XL and they were raw and shrank quite, a bit so if you bought the wrong size you were screwed. Most of the Japanese ones are one wash so at least you won't have that issue but still for the money you would pay for them it would be best to be 100% sure.

[Max Power]

Keep in mind, I'm 6'2" tall and wear size 34. That makes a leg opening of (raw) 9"+. So I'm pretty lean, but wear a full cut. If I was smaller and would wear size 30-31 the jeans would look different. Comon problem on larger japanese denim. And tatmantall proved som pages ago, that a 510 can look slim when you're able to downsize a lot.

 

Re: Hawks. Gordon told me, they will most probably do 15, 17 and 21 or heavier. But not before the end of the year.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

^^ 

that's a conversion chart I found. So a US 44 would be a "big" size L, 46 is XL and 48 is XXL. So we are both wrong

US               30 32 34 36 38 40 42 44 46 48 50

ENGLISH     30 32 34 36 38 40 42 44 46 48 50

EUROPEAN 40 42 44 46 48 50 52 54 56 58 60

JAPAN         32 34 36 38 40 42 44 46 48 50 52

KOREA        80 85 90 95 100 105 110 115 120 125 130

S-M-L         XXS XS S S M M L L XL XXL XXXL

 

 

edit: so a Japanese 44 is a "small" size L

Edited October 11, 2013 by beautiful_FrEaK

[knucks]

 

s510xx19

[Max Power]

X-Post from HDC thread.

[Flash]

Very nice mate

[Max Power]

Thanks! Still I'm surprised how royal blue they look, not much grey like the "old" 710s.

[louisbosco]

took my old 710's out for a walk on dress down fridays.

 

 

levi's shirt

samurai 710

alden shell cordovan indy

RRL bag

goros

rolex gmt master2

[Flash]

Would be cool to see some comparison pics

[Robert Langdon]

@maxpower

Any chance you can post the "lived in" measurements of your sams? Wanna see what to to expect shrinkage wise. They look ill btw. Like really

[Max Power]

Ok. I'm at home now so i can do it.

Here you go (size 34):

 

Waist 91 cm  (estimated inches: 36)

 

Front rise 28,7 cm (estimated inches:11,5)

 

Back rise 41 cm (estimated inches: 16,5)

 

Thigh 33 cm (estimated inches: 13)

 

Hem 22,5 cm (estimated inches: 8,8)

Edited October 12, 2013 by Max Power

[bradl]

Thanks! Still I'm surprised how royal blue they look, not much grey like the "old" 710s.

Does this vary from the 19oz used on the new 710s, because mine look NOTHING like those. Find it quite interesting how much variation there is between the two. Mine do have a brown tint to it because I can't seem to wash off all the dirt from when I was cleaning up during the floods.

[samHDS]

Solved.

Edited October 15, 2013 by samHDS

[futurebass]

 

Got my pair of 710s from Yuichi. I sized according to the thigh, so i sized up 1.

[Robert Langdon]

Naniwa Special ASJS500size 34

Raw Measurements (rough)

W 90cm/35.5in

Fr 29.5cm/11.75in

Br 39.5cm/15.75in

Th 34cm/13.75in

In 94cm/37in

Can't decide whether to soak or machine wash. Will post more pics soon

@maxpower

Thanks for the post.

Edited October 13, 2013 by Robert Langdon

[Max Power]

Crazy, your's seem smaller prewash (waist) and my inseam was longer if I recall it right. I always thought I had a size 35 What does your hem measure?

BTW, I didn't get much shrinkage after two hot soaks, so you don't need to machine wash.

[Robert Langdon]

@maxpower

My measurements are approximate. I didn't pull the waist tight when I took the tape to it. More than likely its closer to 36in/. Same with the inseam, maybe 38 tops. The leg opening is more or less 9in/23cm. The rise on yours is a full inch different. Strange.

As far as soaks vs. Machine wash, I want to get the shrinkage out the way. How much more did they shrink after your wash vs. Second soak?

[Max Power]

^ok, then they are pretty much the same. The frther shrinkage was barely noticeable. The shrinkage in the waist will stretch back anyway and the inseam can be pulled back (but I didn't notice much). Make sure you soak really hot and agitate them. The inseam will most likely shrink 1,5-2", when you got this, you're set. The 19 oz denim is not known for crazy shrinkage.