Full Count Denim Thread

[EdwardBear]

13 hours ago, Rehnen1 said:

Hi everyone!

So I'm gonna buy me a pair raw fullcount 0105. Haven't decide if I'm going for the regular, xx or ex yet. 

How is the shrinking with these? I've heard that they are huge before soak but that they will shrink down to the actual size you buy. So if buying size W32 they will shrink down to a 32 after soaking. Correct?
But will they stretch some after the soak and wearing?

I'm not really shore which size to choose. 
This will be my first raw pair. 
I've have a couple of selvedge but no raw. 
For example I have W29, W30 and W31. But they have stretched and are a little loose in waist. The 29 are if I measure 34 now and the 31 are 35. Both are nudie grim tim. 

I'm more in to the looser/wider and more classic fit now. And thank god for that. Love it. Feels more comfy. Will never go back! Hahaha!

My orSlow 105 I bought in size 3 and they are way to big in the waist after wearing.
I do have a pair of Lvc 1922 that I bought used from eBay. 
Kind of like the waist size on these. Now they measures W33 (84 cm). They are high waisted. Maybe I could have like 2-3 cm smaller.

So what do you guys think?
Can you guide me in any direction?

Thanks!
/Emil 

Hi Emil, whether raw or one wash, the general rule for Fullcount is size down one. I am a 32 in most brands but with Fullcount always a 31, regardless of which cut. Doesn't matter if it's standard banner denim or XX, just size down one from your usual size. 0105 is a fantastic cut, as is the 1101.

And if you are looking to offload the OrSlow, PM me with some pics :-)

[Rehnen1]

15 hours ago, EdwardBear said:

Hi Emil, whether raw or one wash, the general rule for Fullcount is size down one. I am a 32 in most brands but with Fullcount always a 31, regardless of which cut. Doesn't matter if it's standard banner denim or XX, just size down one from your usual size. 0105 is a fantastic cut, as is the 1101.

And if you are looking to offload the OrSlow, PM me with some pics :-)

Thanks man! 

Can I expect som stretching in waist after soaking? 

 

Ok so size down one size. 

If my Lvc measures 33 with a little room left in waist maybe 32 could be good but then like you mention EdwardBear I should size down one size. So then 31 should be the right size or 30...?

Don't think I'm paranoid. But for some reason I'm an expert in buying jeans that are to big in the waist.  Thinking that this time that's not gonna happen

[beautiful_FrEaK]

The waist of FC regular denim will stretch easily back to raw measurements and even beyond. So yes they will stretch. Whar pair of LVC do you compare with? For example I have the LVC 47 in size 36 but FC 1101 in 33 and the FC 1108 in 34 (mainly because of the slimmer thigh&hips(.

[Rehnen1]

2 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

The waist of FC regular denim will stretch easily back to raw measurements and even beyond. So yes they will stretch. Whar pair of LVC do you compare with? For example I have the LVC 47 in size 36 but FC 1101 in 33 and the FC 1108 in 34 (mainly because of the slimmer thigh&hips(.

I bought my LVC used on eBay. It's a 1920'S 201. But now I'm not shore if they were raw from the beginning. Never mind. They are marked 32 and now the measures 33. 

Do you know or anybody else if the 201 and the 0105 is comparable in height/rise?

If I look at the size guide the raw 0105 size 30 measures 33.1 before soak.

And the one wash size 30 measures 29.9.

Do you mean that the raw 30 maybe will stretch up to more than 33.1?

Then I probably need 29. 

 

[SLAB]

Anyone have a 1110xx? Does not seem to be a very popular model but i like it. Should i size same as other FC models?

[Geeman]

Looking at the same cut myself @SLAB is the size down 1 guidance  the same for the xx and signature denim? 

Also mate, was asking about the warehouse lot 900 in the warehouse thread (one page back now) think you wear em, could you chime in?

[SLAB]

I had the 1108 blueingreen special denim and the 1101 signature denim. The last one stretched a bunch. After gaining a couple of pounds it still fits while thz blueingreen denim pair was too tight ( both same size). Cant say about the xx denim.

Check the WH thread

[jewellben]

19 hours ago, SLAB said:

Anyone have a 1110xx? Does not seem to be a very popular model but i like it. Should i size same as other FC models?

got the 1110 in 13oz - quite a slim fit cut, I sized the same as my other FC. 

[EdwardBear]

On 8/11/2017 at 1:27 PM, Rehnen1 said:

Thanks man! 

Can I expect som stretching in waist after soaking? 

 

Ok so size down one size. 

If my Lvc measures 33 with a little room left in waist maybe 32 could be good but then like you mention EdwardBear I should size down one size. So then 31 should be the right size or 30...?

Don't think I'm paranoid. But for some reason I'm an expert in buying jeans that are to big in the waist.  Thinking that this time that's not gonna happen

Hey Emil, sounds like you are a true 32 waist then if the LVCs have some room, so I'd go with a 31 in the 0105, because they will stretch anyway. The 0105 is such a great cut and mine need a belt to stop them sitting on my hips so I think you'll be good!

[Rehnen1]

20 hours ago, EdwardBear said:

Hey Emil, sounds like you are a true 32 waist then if the LVCs have some room, so I'd go with a 31 in the 0105, because they will stretch anyway. The 0105 is such a great cut and mine need a belt to stop them sitting on my hips so I think you'll be good!

Thanks again! 

31 it is. 

And EdwardBear my orSlow are my garage/workshop jeans now.

[Maynard Friedman]

I'm selling some 0105XX BNWT in size 31 if you're interested, there are pictures and measurements on this thread a page or two back.

[Rehnen1]

2 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

I'm selling some 0105XX BNWT in size 31 if you're interested, there are pictures and measurements on this thread a page or two back.

Thanks for the offer. 

But planning on buying some other stuff to and I have decided to go with the 0105ex. 

[jewellben]

Both pockets on my 1110 losing threads 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Typical Full Count stuff

Edited August 14, 2017 by beautiful_FrEaK

[Maynard Friedman]

^^ Yes, if that didn't happen, I'd be suspicious that they were fakes! 

[LQW]

Speaking of, how does one make the arcs on a pair of fullcounts last longer? I think I've seen more pics of them falling apart than I have of them intact. I have a pair of 1101 flying across the sea to me right now. 

[chicote]

Outside of reversing entropy, I fear you're out of luck  they unravel naturally and at will.

[EdwardBear]

56 minutes ago, LQW said:

Speaking of, how does one make the arcs on a pair of fullcounts last longer? I think I've seen more pics of them falling apart than I have of them intact. I have a pair of 1101 flying across the sea to me right now. 

The only potential way is not to put anything in the back pockets, but as @chicote says they do just come apart but this is to be embraced- it's deliberate to mimic the broken arcs of vintage Levis. Even when the arcs come away, it leaves a darker line on the pockets so almost a ghost arc. 1101 is a fantastic cut- enjoy them and go with whatever happens to the arcs- all a part of the evolution and beauty of the jeans 

[jewellben]

2 hours ago, EdwardBear said:

The only potential way is not to put anything in the back pockets, but as @chicote says they do just come apart but this is to be embraced- it's deliberate to mimic the broken arcs of vintage Levis. Even when the arcs come away, it leaves a darker line on the pockets so almost a ghost arc. 1101 is a fantastic cut- enjoy them and go with whatever happens to the arcs- all a part of the evolution and beauty of the jeans 

agree I don't use my back pockets and my arcs are intact, must be inside abrasion that causes them to break as I've certainly sat on my arse loads in mine  

[avonalliv8]

Got tapped on the shoulder while wearing 1108s in line at a Home Depot in Bay Area...

Lady: What jeans are those? Those aren't Levi's, right?

Me: No, no they aren't. 

Lady: I didn't think so. I work at Levi's and those violate the copyright we have.

Me: Really? Cool!

End scene.

[LQW]

5 hours ago, avonalliv8 said:

Got tapped on the shoulder while wearing 1108s in line at a Home Depot in Bay Area...

Lady: What jeans are those? Those aren't Levi's, right?

Me: No, no they aren't. 

Lady: I didn't think so. I work at Levi's and those violate the copyright we have.

Me: Really? Cool!

End scene.

What, you mean you didn't strip off your jeans and present them to her while apologizing profusely??

[Foxy2]

she should know that it's not in violation with the laws in Japan where the jeans were made (and bought)...

[Maynard Friedman]

"Come on Lynn Downey, give me a break, you don't even work there anymore."

[Iron Horse]

On 8/16/2017 at 6:15 AM, avonalliv8 said:

Got tapped on the shoulder while wearing 1108s in line at a Home Depot in Bay Area...

Lady: What jeans are those? Those aren't Levi's, right?

Me: No, no they aren't. 

Lady: I didn't think so. I work at Levi's and those violate the copyright we have.

Me: Really? Cool!

End scene.

 

 

[TbickSTL]

PSA here are measurements of 1101w size 32 after a couple hours of wear:

Waist - 33"
Thigh - 12.25"
FR - 11"
BR - 15"
Inseam - 34"
LO - 8"

 

Selling these if anyone is interested. Trying to figure out how the new marketplace thing works. 

[Max Power]

Result after three washes in two weeks and walking/ hiking in them a lot.

[Max Power]

Update on my 1101, 8 months & about 10 washes.

[JohnM]

Nice Max -- are you enjoying the 1101?  I love mine -- probably my favorite Fullcount cut and one of my favorite pairs of jeans overall.

[Max Power]

Absolutely! The fit and denim are perfect. I really wish there was a 1101ex.

[Rehnen1]

I've got my 0105ex.
Gonna do the initial soke probably today. Excited to wear them!
Since it's my first unsanforized I want to make some things clear.

Read about soak on okayamadenims website this:

https://www.okayamadenim.com/blogs/news/8592429-caring-for-your-raw-denim

Is this a instruction that I could follow? 

Understand that the hotter the water is the more they will shrink.
And also that the time matters. 

But for minimal indigo loss and good shrinkage is lukewarm water good like okayamadenims guide say?

For how long should I soak them? 
OD suggest an average of 30 min. Or if you want to drop down about two sizes they recommend one hour. 

And what about sitting in the bathtub with jeans on? Is there anyone who does that?

Here's before soak.

 

Edited August 24, 2017 by Rehnen1
Not correct upload