Roy. (expurgated edition)

[tewsday]

Coming along nicely, UkeNo. How long have you worn them for? 

 

Are Big Bro 2s black seed denim? 

[UkeNo]

I've worn them fairly regularly for a couple of years now. Think they came out sometime in 2015.

The contrast is actually much better in person. Was quite overcast when I took the photos, and it doesn't show that well here.

They are made from black seed denim.

Edited February 22, 2019 by UkeNo

[Dreigh]

I'm new to the forum, and a (happy) new Roy denim owner, with a question about next steps in the washing and (maybe) drying process to get my jeans all shrunk out...

I just snagged a pair of the Roy x SE R01s (size 31) and for a high-waisted jean they fit me TTS on the initial try-on. I put them through a hot machine wash (no spin), and hang dried. The waist shrunk down from 31.25" >> 30", and after roughly 4 hours of wear around they house they easily stretch out to almost 32". 32" is comfortably loose on me, and I am interested in getting all the shrinkage out of these that I can without going too crazy on the waist. That said: Can anyone attest to the ability of Cone Black Seed to stretch back out to raw measurements in the waist after a machine wash AND machine dry, perhaps on low? If I'm knocking the gate to a world of pain, let me know, and I will take heed.

[goodrain]

can you please post some fit pics?

[goodrain]

thinking of picking up a pair of the 31s. I am a true 32 so I will wait for more feedback from the folks that sized down since there are still 4+ pairs of the 31s left

[kaloph]

On 2/23/2019 at 1:01 PM, Dreigh said:

I just snagged a pair of the Roy x SE R01s (size 31) and for a high-waisted jean they fit me TTS on the initial try-on. I put them through a hot machine wash (no spin), and hang dried. The waist shrunk down from 31.25" >> 30", and after roughly 4 hours of wear around they house they easily stretch out to almost 32". 32" is comfortably loose on me, and I am interested in getting all the shrinkage out of these that I can without going too crazy on the waist. That said: Can anyone attest to the ability of Cone Black Seed to stretch back out to raw measurements in the waist after a machine wash AND machine dry, perhaps on low? If I'm knocking the gate to a world of pain, let me know, and I will take heed.

I don't tumble dry my jeans, but on low I assume they will stretch back. I line dry mine and the waist does stretch back. Sounds like this might be your first pair of unsanforized... remember tumble drying will shrink all of the dimensions, but not everything stretches back like the waist does. But really, we are talking quarters of inches here, so don't lose sleep over it!

[UkeNo]

@jegr What did you decide in the end? How are they coming along now? 

[jegr]

36 minutes ago, UkeNo said:

@jegr What did you decide in the end? How are they coming along now? 

I settled on the pair I snapped pictures in, the 32s. I’m planning on giving them a warm machine wash later this week and i’ll be sure to follow up with the fit.

[goodrain]

@Dreigh any fit pics of your 31s? Are you normally a 31 or 32?

[Broark]

Just threw my Memorial Jeans in the wash again, will try to take some photos this weekend.
I really want to send my RS04's off to get hemmed so I can start wearing those, a lot of people say that's the best Cone ever produced.
Or at least the best that Roy's worked with!

[goodrain]

https://www.heddels.com/2015/07/fade-day-roy-rs04-2-years-8-months-12-washes-2-soaks/

after seeing this fade example, I agree with that statement!

[Broark]

I've seen lots of great examples but this pair that was sold on Denimbro always comes to mind.

[Quoise1203]

My pair of RS04 looked like that once... 

They were becoming pretty threadbare a few years ago so I sent them out for repairs. The darning on the thighs and crotch came back so thick they weren’t very comfortable. I’m sure they would’ve softened up again with wear, but sort of lost interest in being uncomfortable. Plus the repairs were so extensive they were barely the same pants anymore.

Or maybe I just got fat and they didn’t fit...

[Broark]

I remember seeing your pair as well, would love to see some photos of you’ve still got the jeans. 

[Quoise1203]

Still have the jeans. They are going on 7 years old now! Will never get rid of them (not that they’d be much use to anyone!). Maybe my daughter will wear them one day, or a son if I have one. I’ll post some pics soon. 

The darning job from indigo proof really is very impressive, despite the thickness of the fabric. The thread color is perfectly blended and it looks like a natural fade, despite being essentially new blue and grey thread.

Edited March 7, 2019 by Quoise1203

[TheEscapist]

I have primarily been rotating a pair of Cone Project denim (KS1002) and Black Seed (RT1002) for the last 3 years and I still cannot figure out which denim I like better. It is usually whichever I am wearing, currently the cone project denim, same as the RS04. It seems like a lot of people prefer the original contest denim most of all from his stuff, but unfortunately the rare pairs that come up on eBay are all pretty worn. 

I had both pairs fixed up at Indigo proof last summer and had a similar issue with the thickness of the crotch repair on the KS1002s/mostly the weight I had gained, but they broke in pretty quickly again. The cone project denim seems to have about as much stretch as the black seed has shrink. 

[goodrain]

was lucky enough to pick up a pair of big bro 2s from @dudewuttheheck. So stoked

[Quoise1203]

Here are my (nearly) 7 year old Roy RS04. Worn as my primary pair from July 2012 until November 2014, and then many times off and on since then. Major repairs by indigoproof. These were hemmed by selfedge at least 1 year after purchase + soak + several washes, so whoever says you can’t get good roping after soaking is a fool. Sorry, no fitpics on account of a certain moose knuckle.

 

[UkeNo]

17 hours ago, goodrain said:

was lucky enough to pick up a pair of big bro 2s from @dudewuttheheck. So stoked

This might be the 'best' pair of Roy's. 

 

Nice find. 

* Dibs - if you decide to sell, they don't fit etc

[CityPickin']

I've got a pair of 33" Big Bro 2's which have been repaired that I'd be willing to let go. I'm Memorial fit all the way these days.

[goodrain]

On 2/21/2019 at 5:18 PM, UkeNo said:

I've worn them fairly regularly for a couple of years now. Think they came out sometime in 2015.

The contrast is actually much better in person. Was quite overcast when I took the photos, and it doesn't show that well here.

They are made from black seed denim.

has your pair been through the dryer?

[UkeNo]

^ No not been through the dryer. Machine washed a number of times though. 

Will post some better pictures when the light is better 

[Broark]

Some photos of my Memorial Jeans after another wash.
About 6 months of wear, 3~4 washes so far. Can't remember.

[jegr]

Finally got around to washing the Roy x Self Edge R01's I picked up a couple weeks back. I washed them twice to get all the shrinkage out, once through the machine on warm/delicate and once hot/normal. It seems the hot wash was overkill though as the measurements were the same pre/post that last wash.

Roy x Self Edge R01 tag size 32

 

Measurements after Roy’s 15 minute soak.

Waist - 32

Front rise - 12.5

Back rise - 16.5

Thigh at crotch - 13.5

Thigh 1” down - 13

Knee 14” down - 9.5

Hem - 8.75

Inseam - 35.25

 

Warm machine wash

Waist - 30.5

Front rise - 12

Back rise - 16

Thigh at crotch - 13.25

Thigh 1” down - 12.6

Knee 14” down - 9

Hem - 8.5

Inseam - 33.5

 

Thanks to everyone who helped me size these, the 33s would have been too loose for my liking. They could definitely still use a trip through the dryer but I'm going to wear them as is for a bit and embrace the extra air flow.

 

 

Edited March 10, 2019 by jegr
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[Broark]

They fit you well, enjoy!

[jegr]

@Broark Thanks!

[mpukas]

Very good fit. IMO a size up would have been too big. Well done! Are you gonna get them hemmed or cuffs? 

[jegr]

2 hours ago, mpukas said:

Very good fit. IMO a size up would have been too big. Well done! Are you gonna get them hemmed or cuffs? 

Lately, on my warehouse 800 c/l’s, i’ve been liking a larger single cuff cuffed a bit higher for sneakers. I’m thinking about going the same route with these but will still need around 3 inches hemmed off. Short legs.

[goodrain]

Looks like sticking with the 32 was the right call. I can probably size down to 31 fro my usual 32 when I do get the R01 cut.

Here are my newly acquired big bro 2's (sz 33)

 

Edited March 10, 2019 by goodrain

[jegr]

@goodrain on the R01 I think you can very safely size down one. I’m usually a 33 across the board but these 32s still leave plenty of breathing room.

Not sure what the cut difference is but those big bro 2’s in a size 33 look great on you!