Sugar Cane Denim

[MJF9]

[Dr_Heech]

When l finally joined Sufu in 2009 after lurking for a year before, the repro jeans l was wearing/collecting were all Lvc. Within a short while l had been 'influenced' into purchasing 2 pairs of SC47's, a 32x34 and a 34x34. This would have been 2010 l think(?)

The size 32 are now long gone but the size 34's have been on a slow burn for years, coming in and out of rotation depending on what else was the next big deal (denim wise) to me at the time.

Here they are paired with my nos OW pair l bought from MJF9 -

 

 

Edited August 8 by Dr_Heech
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[Dr_Heech]

 

A generalisation l know but l think as repros go, l would say these jeans are are as good as a levis copy as anything else out there apart from maybe the FW47's.

That's denim, cut, sewing and details - but that's just my opinion anyways   : )

[Double 0 Soul]

I agree Doc..

The single reason i would put them above FW-47s is the price..

 

They're jeans / workwear and as such, price always has to be a consideration.. (if you're only making £2000/mth, you don't want to be spending £400 on work clothing)  i appreciate that there are more accurate repros out there but those repros have transcended workwear into the realms of larping / internet posing.

 

For ¥20k SC47s are affordable workwear.. priced not much higher than MiC Dickies or Carhartt .. so folks can afford to trash them whereas FWs priced at ¥40k would have to last twice as long to justify the overspend and as we all know.. they don't. SC47s are closer to the Levis workwear ethos or dressing low paid workers in durable clothing whereas the fancy denim brands are just fashion.

 

[Dr_Heech]

Think l paid £150 including postage per pair back in 2010 through an eBay seller who was also a member here.

These factory-washed pair cost me 200 quid including postage, so that's just over £3 per year inflation since the last pair purchased 🙂

(I think both pairs of FW that l own have cost me over 300 quid!)

With both pairs, love the fact that l can just slip them on and they fit perfectly.

Superdenim has been good to me.

 

Edited August 8 by Dr_Heech
Shit at math and added info

[knucks]

I sure miss the arcs on the SC!

[Dr_Heech]

2 minutes ago, knucks said:

I sure miss the arcs on the SC!

And the red Cane's tab.

[JohnM]

Does the 1947 run a little smaller in the waist than other Sugar Cane jeans?

[ATWM]

13 hours ago, Double 0 Soul said:

whereas FWs priced at ¥40k would have to last twice as long to justify the overspend and as we all know.. they don't

I don’t have the depth of experience thrashing pairs that you and some others do, but speaking generally my FW stuff is definitely a notch more durable than my SC stuff, and a notch above generally. And in buying stuff like 51s, 47s etc - at least when I did - prices were about 25% higher than SC. My 51s were I think $180 or so from Hoosier while SC 47s I think were about $140 at Bears. I gather it’s different now, and special releases are different but if there is a quality / durability / price quotient I would honestly put them almost equal in my experience. I actually consider my 51s the best value I’ve come across to date. Not a busted seam even in a year plus of wear - when any other pair has been tended to multiple times. I’ve never handled the m series SC stuff so perhaps that was different. 

I’d agree in general with the workwear pricing matter though. 

[JohnM]

I thought jeans that wear out really fast are better 😉   

More seriously, I wonder how long Levi's from the '40s lasted compared to current repro models.

[Double 0 Soul]

6 hours ago, ATWM said:

I don’t have the depth of experience thrashing pairs that you and some others do, but speaking generally my FW stuff is definitely a notch more durable than my SC stuff, and a notch above generally. And in buying stuff like 51s, 47s etc - at least when I did - prices were about 25% higher than SC. My 51s were I think $180 or so from Hoosier while SC 47s I think were about $140 at Bears. I gather it’s different now, and special releases are different but if there is a quality / durability / price quotient I would honestly put them almost equal in my experience. I actually consider my 51s the best value I’ve come across to date. Not a busted seam even in a year plus of wear - when any other pair has been tended to multiple times. I’ve never handled the m series SC stuff so perhaps that was different. 

I’d agree in general with the workwear pricing matter though. 

I think the quality of materials used by FWs are more luxurious for sure.. same with RMC but it doesn't equate to longevity.. when i used to live in the same pair of jeans, everyday, dawn till dusk.. i'd get around 18mths - 2yrs of wear regardless of brand, i even tried a pair of tough, rugged, manly af IHs but all the marketing is BS.. they still last 18mths,  i can't imagine the m-series being any different, certainly not with 30yr old cotton thread.

I suppose what i'd advocate for in these days of one-upmanship detailing and eyewatering prices is a return to the basics.

 

[Double 0 Soul]

Ironically these over-detailed Levi repros don’t have arcs or a red tab.. which are two key elements if you ask me 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

8 hours ago, JohnM said:

Does the 1947 run a little smaller in the waist than other Sugar Cane jeans?

I had the 1947 and I have the Okinawa. The 47 are definitely a bit smaller in the waist, like 1" less I would say.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

@Dr_Heech If they are in stock, you can get the SC 1947 for £95 shipped from BEARS (or 109€ for me). That's not to beat. That's the same price a pair of Levi's 501 costs here.
Of course, they don't have the arcs and tab you like  

[Dr_Heech]

3 hours ago, Double 0 Soul said:

Ironically these over-detailed Levi repros don’t have arcs or a red tab.. which are two key elements if you ask me 

 

2 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

@Dr_Heech If they are in stock, you can get the SC 1947 for £95 shipped from BEARS (or 109€ for me). That's not to beat. That's the same price a pair of Levi's 501 costs here.
Of course, they don't have the arcs and tab you like  

I know l'm a vintage levis nut but if you don't have arcs and a tab on your jeans, then what brand is being reproduced?

[l13902733261]

It has arrived

[l13902733261]

Is this the usual wash tag placement for Sugar Cane jeans? absolute abysmal.

[ATWM]

22 minutes ago, l13902733261 said:

Is this the usual wash tag placement for Sugar Cane jeans? absolute abysmal.

Yep. What’s the problem?

[Lorcan]

On my SCSC 1942s the tag tends to pop out the pocket and become visible. Been meaning to chop it off. Not had it with my other Canes but maybe these are the same. 

[MJF9]

Same on the 43s

[Double 0 Soul]

Its a 1940s repro quirk 

[indigoeagle]

Yep, (edited) the same on my 47s, 45s and 46s. I also find it a bit annoying.

Edited May 23 by indigoeagle

[julian-wolf]

That’s funny. I’ve worn probably 20 models of Cane’s with the tag there, and the only ones with the pocket backing cut in such a way that the tag ever sticks out or gets in the way have been the lot 300, which are sort of just a weird cut in general

[Maynard Friedman]

I think some WW2 models (not just Sugar Cane) have smaller denim inserts/facings (whatever they’re called) in the front pocket so that more of the pocket bag material is exposed. I believe some people have complained about this on some iterations of the LVC 44 in the past.

[Lorcan]

1942s and the above miusa 1940s the tag is also on the left side, not in the right pocket below the coin pocket like eg. 1946

[MJF9]

SCSC 43

[Double 0 Soul]

[bod]

The monthly wash

[JMS]

1947 MiUSA.

[bod]

The monthly wash