Sugar Cane Denim

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Finally! I was waiting fo this for so long.
So it will be delayed. 

[beautiful_FrEaK]

 

[Maynard Friedman]

Just arrived, deadstock one-wash condition. Pictures aren’t great due to poor light.

[reallypeacedoff]

I just picked up the 1947 BLK from Bears as they just had a restock.

[heyson]

49 minutes ago, reallypeacedoff said:

I just picked up the 1947 BLK from Bears as they just had a restock.

I am tempted to grab a pair from SE I always miss the restocks. But I just have too much clothes 

[Dr_Heech]

18 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

 

Thanks for posting this ( and thanks to @Double 0 Soul for helping with the translation on YT vids) - Nice to see the original 1942 501XX which they used to make the replica in their latest SSDC line up, also that two-tone waist chain stitching on the 1945 506XX. The only time l've seen that detail on 501 jeans made between 1940 and 1942 so good to know it also applies to jackets. 

Edited October 19 by Dr_Heech

[beautiful_FrEaK]

2 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

Just arrived, deadstock one-wash condition. Pictures aren’t great due to poor light.

The 1966 that was released along with the 1955? Nice score!

[reallypeacedoff]

1 hour ago, heyson said:

I am tempted to grab a pair from SE I always miss the restocks. But I just have too much clothes 

Not quite the same; I have 1947 from SE, and they are the non-fade black—Blk/Blk. The ones from Bear are more like indigo—fade to grey in reality.

[JDelage]

4 hours ago, heyson said:

I am tempted to grab a pair from SE I always miss the restocks. But I just have too much clothes 

What does that issue have to do with buying clothes? Completely orthogonal. Not getting it... 

[Dr_Heech]

Also @beautiful_FrEaK l don't know if you guessed it but those 1945 S501XX 'A' in the video are the number 27 pair in the 501 book.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Haven't cross-checked yet, thanks!

The coin pocket on the original is wild. The repro is much more tame

[Dr_Heech]

1 hour ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Haven't cross-checked yet, thanks!

The coin pocket on the original is wild. The repro is much more tame

I've not studied that repro, only the 42. Will take another look. [Edit] oh yeah that repro detail is a bit lame although some aren't too bad. After seeing the pics of the 42 repro l immediately took out my yet to be worn FW42's and thought Naa, l'm good. 

Will you be picking anything up this time around?

Edited October 19 by Dr_Heech

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I pre-ordered the 45 jeans once I heard about them. Might get the jacket as well.

[indigoeagle]

I couldn't really see the arcs in the video.
Does the 42 early period model still have stitched arcs?

The pockets of the 45 can be seen around 12:20. I can't see stitched arcs. So they were probably still painted and had faded away.

Some points of the late period 45 model:

The coin pocket

The direction of the pocket part (correct term?) is the same direction as the fabric of the legs.

 

The tag with S501XX and the rare A.

 

The 42 early period model (April to August 42):
still crotch rivet




rivets are copper plated iron (copper was need for ammunition/weapon production) (1937 model has smashed copper rivets for concealed rivets)

On the flasher accordingly it changed from (concealed copper rivets in 1937 to concealed pocket rivets)

Back of the buttons copper plated

 

Black plated iron buckle

 

Before this model with the flasher (apparently only 2 in the world, I guess he is not referring to 1942 models but to those with a flasher still on) was found it was assumed that the jeans were from 1937 or 1941. But on the flasher it says 1942.

 

Interestingly the fabric underneath on the table is very similar to that of the pocket bags of the LVC 1944 made in Japan model.

Edited October 19 by indigoeagle

[Dr_Heech]

@indigoeagle l doubt Sugarcane want to focus on the arcs (or tabs) as they are not featured as part of replication. I can confirm that the the pre-restriction 1942 501XX has single needle arcs, and the WW2 model has none due to the printed one's being washed away. 

Edited October 19 by Dr_Heech

[indigoeagle]

9 minutes ago, Dr_Heech said:

@indigoeagle l doubt Sugarcane want to focus on the arcs (or tabs) as they are not featured as part of replication. I can confirm that the the pre-restriction 1942 501XX has single needle arcs, and the WW2 model has none due to the printed one's being washed away. 

Makes sense.
In the SC catalogue one can see it.
 

[heyson]

19 hours ago, reallypeacedoff said:

Not quite the same; I have 1947 from SE, and they are the non-fade black—Blk/Blk. The ones from Bear are more like indigo—fade to grey in reality.

Ahh I see

[heyson]

16 hours ago, JDelage said:

What does that issue have to do with buying clothes? Completely orthogonal. Not getting it... 

lol I want to get rid of a lot of what I have so buying more just doesn’t make sense

[vIGGiou riou]

5 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

I pre-ordered the 45 jeans once I heard about them. Might get the jacket as well.

Please. Where is possible pre-order ?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

19 minutes ago, vIGGiou riou said:

Please. Where is possible pre-order ?

Ask your precious shop dealer if he/she is willing to reserve a pair for you. Done

[Maynard Friedman]

On 10/7/2024 at 1:30 PM, unionmade said:

I’m not sure how old my US-made pair with arcs are but there’s quite a difference in price between them and the new ones.

[Double 0 Soul]

You can narrow it down.. they didn't exist before (i think) 2003/4 and the arcs would have gone by 2008 plus Japanese consumption tax was at 5% between 1997 and 2014.. i've got a 2003 and a 2006 SC catalogue somewhere, i'll dig them out and see if they're in the catalogue.

[julian-wolf]

21 hours ago, reallypeacedoff said:

Not quite the same; I have 1947 from SE, and they are the non-fade black—Blk/Blk. The ones from Bear are more like indigo—fade to grey in reality.

The Self Edge 1947s use the lot 470 fabric, which definitely is not “non-fade”—plenty examples of faded pairs floating around

[MJF9]

^^^^ love the ceremonial gloves and gasps as the 42 and 45 models were unveiled on the video... good job I wasn't there as I'd have been tempted to whip 'em on given the jeans and jacket look like my perfect sizing 😉

I take it they'll replicate the vintage pattern for the golden sizes which make the set even more tempting

Looking forward to more teasers over the next 4-6 months!

[Dr_Heech]

1 hour ago, MJF9 said:

^^^^ love the ceremonial gloves and gasps as the 42 and 45 models were unveiled on the video... good job I wasn't there as I'd have been tempted to whip 'em on given the jeans and jacket look like my perfect sizing 😉

I've often thought what would happen if you came back after a few drinks from a cracking night out, got the vintage denim collection out all over the floor and decided to do a bath tub soak with your 100k Nos 42's 😁

Wake up hungover next morning with just a crumpled guarantee ticket and pocket flasher, wondering why you're wearing wet jeans to bed.

[Maynard Friedman]

Probably woke up thinking you tried them on and pi55ed yourself in them before passing out.

[MJF9]

Nightmare!

[yung_flynn]

22 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

I’m not sure how old my US-made pair with arcs are but there’s quite a difference in price between them and the new ones.

Noppasan33 on Yahoo Auctions has another pair of these for a decent price in a good size (W32/L32) if anyone is interested. They look to be in good condition too.

https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/auction/yahoo/input/u1132235579/

[reallypeacedoff]

On 10/19/2024 at 9:10 AM, julian-wolf said:

The Self Edge 1947s use the lot 470 fabric, which definitely is not “non-fade”—plenty examples of faded pairs floating around

Sure, I meant non-fade as in very black—being both warp and weft being dyed—but also, it's like a 5-year feat to fade compared to something like the SC42460 (or something like the Samurai 710BK), which would show significant results in a year. 

[julian-wolf]

2 hours ago, reallypeacedoff said:

it's like a 5-year feat to fade compared to something like the SC42460 (or something like the Samurai 710BK), which would show significant results in a year

Is that true? I remember the lot 470 denim being very quick to give up dye, lots of examples floating around with pretty drastic fades